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OfflineLoaded Shaman
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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: secondorder]
    #26645003 - 05/03/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If I had to pick one, Alfred North Whitehead. He was so thorough and effective at analysing and breaking down the deepest and most fundamental concepts in Metaphysics.

Honorable mention Terence Mckenna (who, funnily enough, loved Alfred as a philosopher)




Whitehead was stellar; "Intelligence is the apperception of pattern as such."


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26647106 - 05/03/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Shenmue said:
Alex Jones is my favorite philosopher!!!




Alex Jones is not a philosopher. He is a sociopath, a liar and an asshole, but not one who loves wisdom, or truth, or who seeks to understand.



But do you have a favourite philosopher?

You can include yourself if you like..

To be honest I really respect my self as a philosopher..


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26647690 - 05/04/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Gotama,  Plato/Socrates, Bodhidharma, Drimey Wozer, Whitehead, Nietsche, Camus, Locke, Spinoza, Descartes,  Schopenhauer,  Kant, Ignatius,  Dogen, Plotinus, etc etc.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26648075 - 05/04/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm curious who your favourite philosopher or philosophers are..?

And why they stand out to you..

Socratic method..

Nietzchies philosophy about eternity.. overman etc..

Kantian theories on morals and categorical imperative.

Anselms proof of God

John Locke and social contract..

Jesus Christ.. proof of the power of giving..

And finally The Buddha on over coming the trappings of matter and existence..




Did Locke also do something on the social contract? Or are you thinking of Rousseau?

I definitely disagree with Anselm, for starters, but otherwise I like most philosophers. I guess if I had to choose one I'd have to say Bertrand Russel. His practical and level-headed writings are impossible to fault.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26648426 - 05/04/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Gotama,  Plato/Socrates, Bodhidharma, Drimey Wozer, Whitehead, Nietsche, Camus, Locke, Spinoza, Descartes,  Schopenhauer,  Kant, Ignatius,  Dogen, Plotinus, etc etc.




Is Camus any good ?

I mean I see that he’s on your list but it’s pretty extensive.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26648451 - 05/04/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I enjoy reading him.  The myth of Sisyphus is where most usually start.  But I find when dealing with any philosopher’s perspective it’s pertinent to start with their first work or as close to it as can be found, and work through each subsequent work linearly.  Mostly because I find I gain perspective over how said philo man developed their thoughts and ideas over time.  Much like starting off liking a new band, and following their work as it comes out over time and seeing how the music evolves over time.  Grants perspective and ups comprehension of some of the heavier and nuanced ness of their work.  Allows for an appropriate appreciation of its pros and cons and of the individual  and oneself.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26648517 - 05/04/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That’s reasonable.  I think it’s difficult to go from different thinkers especially ones separated by the ages where their stance is wildly different from another’s.  It’s really a kind of mind fuck and at risk of confusing.  So it’s probably best to commit to a certain writer for awhile unless it sucks before moving on.  Starting with their early stuff is probably ideal but I doubt most can go through only so much material.  Personally I skip around a bit but not to the point of getting lost in translation.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26648910 - 05/04/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think so too, plus one can always play around with multiple writers at the same time who’s work coincided in relative time in history.  I find that can sometimes broaden perspective further.

Like if we have one guy from France and another from Greece and another from China and India - but all having written during the same decade about the world, but from their angle and window into reality.  Sometimes it works, other times if the subject matter is very complicated or technical I may defer to just that one for the time being.

Doing so can highlight something akin to convergent evolution and Co evolution  in mans philosophies per the times.  Pretty neat.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26649181 - 05/04/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Spinoza for his high regard of mother nature.

Descartes for at least a recognition of there being more than one entity that interact.

Dirac for his elegant view of a vacuum in space.

Einstein for doing his part.

MacLean for forward thinking.

And Darwin for putting together a great deal of puzzle pieces.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: sudly]
    #26650781 - 05/05/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Sartre, his writing is fairly accessible and always leaves me feeling optimistic and empowered. Then Foucault and Baudrillard for the opposite reason, reading their books is more of a struggle but I find a lot of thought provoking ideas that are fun to interact with.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: WASTE]
    #26651031 - 05/05/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Just to add to this thread I don't think David Foster Wallace should be left out of any modern list of great philosophers. If you haven't checked out his work I highly recommend it. Just about the best present day relevant philosopher/essayist I can think of.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26658953 - 05/09/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Ah, in that case, it would be this guy for me:....




Thanks for the link to the Interview with Suvaco.
Worth re-watching a few times.


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: laughingdog] * 1
    #26678982 - 05/18/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

For me it's Lao Tzu. The Tao seems to balance skepticism with peace and selflessness, which I think is good, even if nietzsche's nihilism seems more rational. Someone mentioned William Blake too. Certainly the most interesting philosopher/poet in my opinion, especially those frantic pieces in "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell".


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26680133 - 05/19/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Alex Jones is my favorite philosopher!!!




Oh, are you a hate-monger yourself, or do you need a miscreant like Alex Jones to show you how to be one? He is not a philosopher (lover of wisdom) even under the most liberal and tenuous definition of the word philosopher. He is a pain, a bane and a stain on the First Amendment IMO. A word of advice from an elder: have a nice life by not getting all ginned up by the likes of Alex Jones or some other demagogue and committing a hate-crime that will put you in prison for life instead.  :bye:


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26680135 - 05/19/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry to inform you JSB that M. Scott Peck has been deceased for quite some time now. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4868067


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Re: Who is your favourite philosopher? [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 1
    #26680215 - 05/19/20 03:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

"The chemicals are turning the frogs gay!"
:feelsgoodman:

"I'll eat your ass".


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