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My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy
    #26642174 - 05/01/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hey everyone. I have a strange situation. I am growing Thai Pink Buffalo, this monotub is from grain spawn of a previous successful grow. It's bird seed and coffee and the substrate is coco coir vermiculite and worm castings. It's bleeding red, but it smells like healthy mushroom. It's very spongey too the touch, but it looks pourous like pumus stone. Strange indeed! Any thoughts?

I'm attaching pictures, trying to figure out the shroomery's method. I uploaded them and got the BBCode, Im going to try to copy the links it gave me here and hopefully it will attach images.











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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Sylinic]
    #26642199 - 05/01/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm no expert but it doesn't look like any cube myc I've grown. Maybe the sub is mostly taken over by some other type of mushy smelling contam?

By grain spawn from a previous grow do you mean from g2g or you tried to reuse spent grain?


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Crime Pills 4 Kids]
    #26642205 - 05/01/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yes I mean g2g. Im not sure my gut feeling is that it isnt bad. Im 12 days in since I made the tub, it smells overwhelmingly of fresh mushroom. I figured the Shroomery would find interest in it


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Crime Pills 4 Kids] * 1
    #26642209 - 05/01/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That shit looks alien! Almost looks like reishi.

If you took a spent cake and transferred to new substrate you probably opened it up to a wide variety of pathogens. Could be myc, fighting off some invaders. But I'm just bullshitting here.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: oculodextro] * 4
    #26642218 - 05/01/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Your growing a tub full of contamination. Toss it.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: eatyualive]
    #26642806 - 05/02/20 04:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That thing looks so awesome I'd try to preserve it and put it on a wall


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: poisoned]
    #26642880 - 05/02/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

that dosen't look like any mycelium ive ever come across, id be very careful what you open that tub around man, you could be spreading whatever that is spores all over the place when you open it.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: DrizzleDrazzle]
    #26642886 - 05/02/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:


Burn with fire!

Or atleast toss it. You'll contam all your future grows by opening that in your growspace.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26642927 - 05/02/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

omg ya toss that shit asap


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: jcm4620]
    #26642940 - 05/02/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

DUDE that is death incarnate in that tub. There is LESS than 0% chance of getting a single shroom off that odd mold covered sub. For your future grows and your health, get rid of that nasty ass thing. NO SHROOMS GROW LIKE THAT!!!!


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: jcm4620]
    #26642941 - 05/02/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Is that human skin you're growing? Fucking necromancer!


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: oculodextro]
    #26642945 - 05/02/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Is that human skin you're growing? Fucking necromancer!



I think I can even see a hand growing out that tub in some pics


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: poisoned]
    #26642972 - 05/02/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lol I came from reddit to do some digging about this but I am glad to see OP posted it. There are mixed opinions forming but the majority is saying Trash it.
Interesting that there has barely been any cases like this, only one I found was from 07’


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Sweetzz93]
    #26643021 - 05/02/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Bleeding Tooth Fungi. Hydnellum Peckii. Must have been some sporulating near by at the time. Bury in the garden and your plants will thank you.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
    #26643045 - 05/02/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Bleeding Tooth Fungi. Hydnellum Peckii. Must have been some sporulating near by at the time. Bury in the garden and your plants will thank you.



Screening of an extract of Hydnellum peckii revealed the presence of an effective anticoagulant, named atromentin (2,5-dihydroxy-3,6-bis(4-hydroxyphenyl)-1,4-benzoquinone), and similar in biological activity to the well-known anticoagulant heparin.[36] Atromentin also possesses antibacterial activity, inhibiting the enzyme enoyl-acyl carrier protein reductase (essential for the biosynthesis of fatty acids) in the bacteria Streptococcus pneumoniae.[37]

Cool stuff!


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: oculodextro]
    #26643049 - 05/02/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

and the point of that was???


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: jcm4620]
    #26643063 - 05/02/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It’s the necrinomicon! Book of the dead.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: jcm4620]
    #26643071 - 05/02/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Long hand for 'bad ass medicinal' :awesomenod:


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
    #26643078 - 05/02/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The point is I like mycology and medicine. Sorry that a natural thing produces such an amazing and important drug. Sheesh some people are a bag full of cocks.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: oculodextro]
    #26643221 - 05/02/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's a fascinating fungi. I could be wrong, but based on OP and dealing with forrest invaders on a regular basis I'm confident of my diagnosis. OP notes shroomy smell conducive of fruiting. The bleeding is more typical from fruits, but under those conditions it can be fully mature and not fruit.
I doubt it can sporulate like that so probably not a further contamination issue. A TI might know more in that department.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #26643369 - 05/02/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lol, thank you all for your inputs. The necromancy stuff made me laugh. I looked up that bleeding tooth fungus mushroom and I can see why people say that but I didn't start this batch from a questionable syringe or spore print I made it from splitting grain spawn that previously made a succesful grow of Thai cubes.

My suspicion is that the combo of the worm castings and the COFFEE grounds I mixed with the bird seed is too much nutrients. A fella on Reddit informed me that mushrooms "Guttate" if there is an overabundance of nutrients.

"This is called guttation, a term used
in botany to describe the process by
which plants excrete excess water
through drops from their leaves. For
some mushrooms this is so common
that it is a reliable identification feature,
while for others it is virtually unknown."

As a precaution I'm going to move all my tubs to a different room and lysol everything but I gotta tell ya'll I know it looks weird but when I open the tub it doesnt smell foul, it smells overwhelmingly of fresh mushroom. Like how it smells when you pick a fresh cube fruit and smell the gills or cap. My gut tells me that everything is fine. I do have to dab the top with paper towels because the red koolaid liquid makes little lakes on top. If and when it fruits I'll take pics and spore prints and share on here, but I really don't think it is contaminated. You can see in the pic it looks like the mycelium vacuum sealed the trash liner to the cake making one solid rectangle I can easily pick up. No pooling on bottom its TIGHT.

I'm going to dig back to my reddit convo with this knowledgeable fella I spoke with about it -

"Your tub is experiencing guttation, a great sign of healthy growth. Its caused when the myc is growing quickly enough to push water it hasnt used outside for room. Generally it contains some metabolites from growth that block out mold and other fungal growth, depending on the mushroom"


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Sylinic]
    #26643422 - 05/02/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe spread some of that red liquid onto agar and see what happens.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: oculodextro]
    #26643461 - 05/02/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That is a great idea.

Also case it with peat or coir to split the difference of over nutrition if you think it's just metabolites.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #26643590 - 05/02/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Could be guttation. The red might be something leaching from the sub. Iron from the worm castings maybe. Tea from the coir. That's pretty red though. I'm sticking to my diagnosis.  :lol:

Random spores can come from anywhere. At any time. Regardless of procedures. I've seen oysters pop out of subs, enoki too among others. While the actives are fruiting lol. I don't work with spores on either of those edibles. Only culture. They would have had to come from prior grows or outside.

I agree. Culturing that could be a rabbit hole lol.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
    #26643659 - 05/02/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This is the perfect song for that sub.



Quote:

The corpes all hanging headless and limp
Bodies with no surprises
The blood drains down like the devil's rain
We'll bathe tonight
I want your skulls
I need your skulls
I want your skulls
I need your skulls
Demon I am and face I peel
See your skin turned inside out
'Cause I've gotta have you on my wall
Gotta have you on my wall, 'cause
I want your skulls
I need your skulls
I want your skulls
I need your skulls
Whoa
Collect the heads of little girls and
Put 'em on my wall
Hack the heads off little girls and
Put 'em on my wall





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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: eatyualive]
    #26643667 - 05/02/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I've grown a lot of funky shit. Never seen that :lol:


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Yesum]
    #26643683 - 05/02/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Man this tub is so fucked I am wondering if OP is trolling us

Thai pink buffalo with a prostitute red lip stick smeared all over

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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26643741 - 05/02/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hahaha, you guys are too much with the song. I'll post updates as things progress. I have 8 tubs with this recipe so I hope it's not screwed like most are saying.

WE SHALL SEE!


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Sylinic]
    #26643750 - 05/02/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Do all the tubs look like murder?


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: eatyualive]
    #26643824 - 05/02/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Mayan sacrifice tub!


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: oculodextro]
    #26643913 - 05/02/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That is the most progressed tub so far but the second most progressed tub is starting to grow red around the perimeter. Strange that its around the perimeter is the strongest and the center takes longer to cultivate.


Here is a pic my lads



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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Sylinic] * 2
    #26643936 - 05/02/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

lol “everything’s cool I just have to soak up the blood lakes once in a while.”

That’s some crazy shit, I thought reishi looking at the first post but that’s just the only one I’ve seen that looks remotely like that.


I wonder if they named bleeding tooth after they knew it was an anticoagulant or if that was a coincidence.


Just googled pics of bleeding tooth, I think that’s gotta be it. Looks identical and yours even seems to be starting the lions mane type hairs in some spots. Also it says only young ones bleed.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: A.k.a]
    #26643963 - 05/02/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

“everything’s cool I just have to soak up the blood lakes once in a while.”  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:

WELL WHEN YOU PUT IT LIKE THAT LOL


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    #26643964 - 05/02/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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A.k.a said:
I wonder if they named bleeding tooth after they knew it was an anticoagulant or if that was a coincidence.





Looks like bleeding molars to me


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: Sylinic] * 1
    #26643975 - 05/02/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What if fellas, just WHAT IF. Dream with me now, what if these bad boys fruit massive canopies of pink tinted mushies? How fitting that it would be Pink Buffalo. TRULY, PINK BUFFALO'S FINAL FORM!
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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: poisoned]
    #26644015 - 05/02/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm curious about the pasteurization process. More than one tub would indicate the sub as being the source if it is an invader.
Someone at another forum was using worm compost and unknowingly growing cup fungus a ways back. I don't think they ever did figure it out but they were cup fungus fruits lol. Some of these forrest dwellers are pretty tough when it comes to heat.


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Re: My monotub is bleeding! But feels healthy [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #26644117 - 05/02/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This is crazy, following


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