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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: feevers]
    #26643831 - 05/02/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26644328 - 05/02/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Numbers I saw was that if the lockdown in all states remain you'd be at 110K deaths and 48 million unemployed by July 1st. If all lock downs end you go to 900K dead and 26 million unemployed.

Either way you got tons of people dying, and in the worst recession seen in 100 years. Politicians are just picking the economy over people's lives.

:snowman:

I'm probably wear a mask.




Don't worry the CDC is resurrecting the dead so its ok.



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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: budmanman] * 2
    #26644343 - 05/02/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You must have been pissed when your mom used to tell you to put on your underwear.

Looks like you don’t take it any better when it comes from big brother

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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26644359 - 05/02/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Source that the deaths are now almost cut in half,

Damn them federal incoming CDC audits making the numbers somewhat more realistic and less fear mongering.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: budmanman]
    #26644382 - 05/02/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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budmanman said:
Source that the deaths are now almost cut in half,

Damn them federal incoming CDC audits making the numbers somewhat more realistic and less fear mongering.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm





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It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods.





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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: feevers] * 2
    #26644395 - 05/02/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Humans should be wearing masks indefinitely, pandemic or not. Disgusting creatures really


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: feevers]
    #26644408 - 05/02/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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feevers said:
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budmanman said:
Source that the deaths are now almost cut in half,

Damn them federal incoming CDC audits making the numbers somewhat more realistic and less fear mongering.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm





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It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods.








You realize that lag doesn't cause numbers to go fucking down lol Fire up some brain cells please.


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26644443 - 05/02/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

No numbers went down

From what it looks like, the CDC receives their totals from the states, those numbers are here:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

Then once the states send the medical records/autopsy/death certificate to the NCHS, and the NCHS combs through it and verifies it as a legitimate COVID death, a process that takes weeks, the CDC then adds the number to the data you posted.

It's not a conspiracy, it's you not understanding the data.


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: feevers] * 1
    #26644527 - 05/02/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It's not a conspiracy, it's you not understanding the data.




Understand data. Lets try and do this.

Many deaths are being recorded as Covid deaths.

Even if Covid was not a leading cause, if people test positive, medical professionals and coroners are advised to add covid codes to their list of causes.

If this is to hard to understand how this could inflate numbers of deaths, I don't know how else to put it.

So, when we start tallying up numbers and see all these death certs with covid codes, they count those as covid deaths, however those people died.


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead] * 4
    #26644564 - 05/02/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It makes me sad knowing that there are this many stupid people in the world, and I have still not yet figured out a way to get rich off of them. :sad:


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead]
    #26644566 - 05/02/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

what about deaths that might have not occurred due to healthcare system being strained


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26644607 - 05/02/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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what about deaths that might have not occurred due to healthcare system being strained





strained they being shut down from lack of use lol

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/coronavirus/2020/04/29/many-field-hospitals-went-largely-unused-will-be-shut-down/

"NEW YORK — Gleaming new tent hospitals sit empty on two suburban New York college campuses, never having treated a single coronavirus patient. Convention centers that were turned into temporary hospitals in other cities went mostly unused. And a Navy hospital ship that offered help in Manhattan is soon to depart.

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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: budmanman]
    #26644610 - 05/02/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26644617 - 05/02/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you live in a city where a consistent 500 people per day die, and then, coinciding exactly with around 500 reported COVID deaths per day, those rates rise to 1000 total deaths per day, it becomes fairly clear what's going on.

The numbers will never be exact and the death rate is almost certainly lower than initial estimates, but there is no doubt in any rational mind that this thing is wreaking havok and the mortality rate is exponentially higher than the flu.


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: feevers]
    #26644628 - 05/02/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Many people are going untreated and millions lost their healthcare.

The leading theory is that many covid deaths are under represented.

did you actually get the rona budman?


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: feevers]
    #26644632 - 05/02/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The numbers are being skewed by old people near the end of their life being terminated early by it, at my wifes work, a nursing home, every single employee which there are about 60 of them survived, 1 age 55 with diabetes and obesity had a heart attack and wound up on a ventilator. Everyone else barely even got sick. Once every single living resident and employee caught it, they called all the sick employees back, since everyone has it, whats it matter, 69 old folks resided in the care facility, of the 69 people most over 70 years old and most with many conditions with very low future life expectancy, 25 died of pneumonia, of the 25 who died of pneumonia, 15 tested positive for covid, meaning either there is false negatives or 10 died of regular pneumonia.  This happened over a 3 week period. Now the facility is 100% covid free and  now they're trying to make them intake covid + residents, and as I see it now since everyone is full of anti bodies, why not however old peoples immune systems suck, their childhood chicken pox can come back and kill them, so I agree for employee safety but not resident safety but they're all expected to die soon anway, covid might shave off some weeks for a few of them. Even if a doctor gives someone 2 weeks to live and then they catch covid and die, its a covid death.

This shits a joke.


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26644636 - 05/02/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Many people are going untreated and millions lost their healthcare.

The leading theory is that many covid deaths are under represented.

did you actually get the rona budman?





Yeah I had it, 2 months before I had it a regular common cold made me way sicker.


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: cannabinated]
    #26644637 - 05/02/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Oklahoma city ends face mask rule for shoppers after store employees are threatened
"Store employees have been threatened with physical violence and showered with verbal abuse," the Stillwater city manager said. "There has been one threat of violence using a firearm."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1198736


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #26644638 - 05/02/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

feevers said:
It's not a conspiracy, it's you not understanding the data.




Understand data. Lets try and do this.

Many deaths are being recorded as Covid deaths.

Even if Covid was not a leading cause, if people test positive, medical professionals and coroners are advised to add covid codes to their list of causes.

If this is to hard to understand how this could inflate numbers of deaths, I don't know how else to put it.

So, when we start tallying up numbers and see all these death certs with covid codes, they count those as covid deaths, however those people died.




Weird, they are listing covid-19 as a contributing cause. I mean this virus only attacks and infects cells ACE2 receptors.  So someone covid positive dying of acute renal failure makes no sense right, because we all know kidney cells, epithelium, endothelium and smooth muscle do not have surface expression of ACE2 receptors

Many idiots in this thread.  Advice to those trying to talk sense, save yourself from the potential carpal tunnel syndrome of replying.


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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: budmanman]
    #26644639 - 05/02/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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budmanman said:
Quote:

cannabinated said:
Many people are going untreated and millions lost their healthcare.

The leading theory is that many covid deaths are under represented.

did you actually get the rona budman?





Yeah I had it, 2 months before I had it a regular common cold made me way sicker.



:lmafo: you obviously have no clue whats going on but im sure numbers are being skewed.


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