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PF Cake Cranberry Juice-Citric Acid Mycelium Extraction Tek * 1
    #26641625 - 05/01/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Wanna a unique trip? Want to feel a trip different than your typical shroom trip? Want to experience something different? Try this tek. :takingnotes:


The Official PF Tek Cake Cranberry Juice-Citric Acid Extraction Tek :rainbowdrink:

Step 1:
Colonize one half-pint wide mouth PF jar with any cubenis strain. When its at 100% and starts to pre-pin (primordia growth), go to Step 2.

Step 2: Birth the PF cake, rinse cake with filtered water. Remove all dried, uncolonized vermiculite.

Step 3: Break apart cake into a clean blender.

Step 4: Add Tang® Powder to cover the cake completely, a couple scoops works well. Tang contains both citric and absorbic acid which both help to extract the active alkaloids from the mycelium similar to the Lemon Tek. Pure Citric and/or Absorbic Acid can be substituted for Tang powder if readily available.

Step 5: Pour Pure 100% Cranberry Juice over cake pieces, about 16 fl oz.

Step 6: Blend well using the blender on high-speed. Gently shake the blender to mix the pieces inside. Blend thoroughly. Let the mix sit for about an hour, blending occasionally during the soak-extraction time.

Step 7: Strain slurry over a clean white cotton t-shirt into a large cooking pot or large mixing bowl. Squeeze all the juice out the cotton shirt, leaving only the blended PF cake mix inside the t-shirt.

Step 8: Use a funnel to guide the milky-white Cranberry-Tang juice into a tall drinking glass (ice cubes recommended) from the cooking sauce pot/large bowl. Careful not to spill the mycelium juice extract!

Step 9: Drink the Milky-Mycelium Juice.

Step 10: Enjoy the Unique Trip :awesome:



:rainbowdrink: Cheers! :leocheers:



This Tek was modified based on an existing Erowid.org article.

*12/12/2022 Edit: Added explanation for why Tang powder is used in the extraction.
Edit: Added importance of citric acid to the title


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28067236 - 11/24/22 09:37 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I'm curious about this. I don't have any jar ready to fruit and don't pretend to have till a couple months, but I'll definitely try it eventually. What about the potency?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: damngoodcoffee]
    #28067243 - 11/24/22 09:39 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Its a strong trip, somewhere between a Level 3 and 4. Plan accordingly :mushroom2:


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28067282 - 11/24/22 10:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Great idea Chaos!  Current research suggests there are harmala alkaloids in cubensis mycelium, right?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #28067301 - 11/24/22 10:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Is there?!

I actually havent done any formal research on the subject :strokebeard:


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28067333 - 11/24/22 10:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I'm looking for the article. When I find it I will post it. Might be later today.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: 4HO-DMT] * 1
    #28067345 - 11/24/22 11:10 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Here we go. The artilce is here. But this is the paragraph I am referring to,

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Mr. Moss added the following regarding the compounds they are finding and studying, “While the small set of data that we shared via Twitter displays psilocybin and psilocin, we have isolated and tested for multiple compounds of interest in the mushroom including the tryptamine alkaloids: baeocystin, norbaeocystin, norpsilocin, aeruginascin, 4-HO-TMT, 4-hydroxytryptamine. The beta-carbolines: harmine, harmane, norharmane, harmol.”




This article is even better. I posted the whole article so you don't need to click on the link.

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Get to Know the Beta Carbolines – Newcomers to the Science of Magic Mushrooms

In 2019, Dr. Felix Blei and his research team announced that they had isolated new compounds from four species of magic mushrooms, including Psilocybe cubensis.1 Of course, the better-known compounds like psilocybin, psilocin, and baeocystin were present in the mushrooms, but also were some compounds called beta carbolines (ß-carbolines). This groundbreaking discovery has changed the magic mushroom paradigm for psychedelic researchers.

ß-Carboline Basics

ß-carbolines are naturally occurring alkaloids.2 They are most commonly known as components in the psychotropic beverage ayahuasca. Examples of the ß-carbolines in ayahuasca include harmine, harmane, and harmaline (note: ß-carboline is also another name for the compound norharmane).

Much of the effect of ayahuasca is due to the ability of ß-carbolines to inhibit MAO (monoamine oxidase) enzymes.2,3 This inhibition makes it possible for the psychedelic compound DMT (dimethyltryptamine, another compound in ayahuasca) to move out of the digestive system and enter the circulation.

The ß-Carbolines in Magic Mushrooms

Blei et al. analyzed extracts from P. cubensis, P. mexicana, P. cyanescens, and P. semilanceata. In the extracts, they identified the ß-carbolines cordysinin C, cordysinin D, harmane, harmol, norharmane, and perlolyrine. These compounds were previously isolated from fungi and plants in genera such as Cordyceps, Peganum, and Banisteriopsis,4 but this was a eureka moment in Psilocybe research history.

The Importance of Discovering ß-Carbolines in Magic Mushrooms

When it comes to understanding the effects and potential therapeutic applications of magic mushroom compounds, it’s not just about tryptamines anymore. Now scientists have a new path for further discovery. Consider some of what is already known about ß-carbolines. It deepens the complexity of the already challenging magic mushroom chemical landscape.

ß-carbolines are known to play a role in the development of essential tremor (uncontrolled shaking) and have been implicated in Parkinson’s disease.5 In contrast, a systematic review of the literature conducted by Ferraz et al. in 2019, indicated that ß-carbolines (harmane and harmine, in particular) might have antidepressant effects.6 The authors summarized their findings by saying,

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In general, β-carbolines modulate 5-HT and GABA systems, promote neurogenesis, induce neuroendocrine response and restore astrocytic function, being effective when administrated acutely or chronically in different animal models, including chronic mild stress protocols.




Some of these effects of ß-carbolines come from their ability to inhibit the uptake of serotonin, dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine via competitive inhibition of the receptors7,8

In 2018, a review article by Dai et al. focused on the occurrence, structural diversity, and biological activity of ß-carboline monomers and dimers.9 Their review found that some ß-carboline monomers have many effects, including antitumor, antiparasitic, and antiviral, as well as antioxidant, antidiabetic, and aphrodisiac activity. Interestingly, some ß-carboline dimers have a significantly higher level of bioactivity than their monomeric counterparts.

Further Research on ß-Carbolines From Magic Mushrooms

It’s unknown how ß-carbolines function in magic mushrooms and the ways they may contribute to the overall psychedelic effect. The discovery of these compounds in magic mushrooms will alter the path of psychedelic drug research, perhaps leading to the discovery of even more beneficial effects.








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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: 4HO-DMT] * 1
    #28068647 - 11/25/22 11:02 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Didn't catch this thread the first time you posted it, Logical.  This is really cool, thanks for sharing :mushroom2:


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #28068655 - 11/25/22 11:08 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Thanks! I hope the Tek gets some usage. Its a unique experience to have.

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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28069875 - 11/26/22 09:01 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Have you ever tried this after getting a flush out two from a cake?  Really get the most out of it?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Ditchdude]
    #28070132 - 11/26/22 12:49 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Dude fr ? Like a trip trip ? I’m about to take that bitch out FC


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Polk_Audio3]
    #28070268 - 11/26/22 02:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Someone tell me I’m about to sacrifice a cake it’s been over 13 years


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Ditchdude]
    #28070556 - 11/26/22 05:57 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Have you ever tried this after getting a flush out two from a cake?  Really get the most out of it?




I have not but I would guess the experience would feel different. And the taste would be quite something, probably not pleasant :eek:


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28071766 - 11/27/22 03:52 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

What makes you say that?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Ditchdude]
    #28071929 - 11/27/22 05:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Cause its been aging inside a FC for weeks from the first flush. It wouldnt taste "fresh" like a PF cake just birthed from a jar. I recommend getting the fresh taste of mycelium from a new cake. But this whole process is experimental, so feel free to try it out :shrug:


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28071944 - 11/27/22 05:49 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Dude your a gift from the mushroom gods lol


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28074032 - 11/29/22 05:51 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Thanks! It'll be a while but maybe I could try both and report back.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Ditchdude]
    #28074495 - 11/29/22 12:55 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Cool! :thumbup:


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28075549 - 11/30/22 06:32 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

it could work with pf cakes modified for pan cyan? I can hardly see myself drinking horse manure and vermiculite


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Cosmikktraveler]
    #28075656 - 11/30/22 08:32 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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it could work with pf cakes modified for pan cyan? I can hardly see myself drinking horse manure and vermiculite



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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Cosmikktraveler]
    #28076344 - 11/30/22 03:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Youre timing of this questions is really interesting as I was just about to make a post about Pan Trops. Ive been trouble colonizing Pan Trop on manure substrate. However, Ive had no problem growing the mycelium on a PF Cake. My next extraction will be with Pan Trop mycelium grown with a regular PF cake.

So to answer your question, it will work but the taste will be horrid! I dont recommend. However i do recommend growing Pan cyans in a regular PF cake for the sole purpose of extracting it. The taste of a this extract juice-milk is actually not bad. Its strange but not gross. Better tasting than dry shrooms in my opinion.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28089196 - 12/08/22 06:39 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Its a strong trip, somewhere between a Level 3 and 4. Plan accordingly :mushroom2:



how does that translate in dried grams?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: orphee]
    #28089216 - 12/08/22 06:54 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

also, can a cake be frozen in its jar prior to birth?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: orphee]
    #28089257 - 12/08/22 07:22 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

anyone else try this yet and can report back for us?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28089529 - 12/08/22 10:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

:puke:

But +5 points for balls and originality


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28089568 - 12/08/22 10:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I would like to try this, eventually. You've got me intrigued. I did try mycelium tea in the past - just broke up a cake, boiled for a few minutes, and drank. Gave me a good little trip. Then I tried again with spent cakes (I think 6 cakes together) hoping for a stronger trip, but got nothing from it. It's anecdotal, but from my experience, once they're spent the cakes no longer have as much psilocybin.

Just mentioning that to contribute to the question earlier about making the slurry after fruiting the cake.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: asmr]
    #28090465 - 12/09/22 03:00 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Cool! So the first experiment was with a new, unfruited cake?

And how was that spent cake taste? :eek:

As for dosing, i would say 1 extracted cake equals about 3.5 grams of shrooms.

I currently have 4 jars (2 half pints and 2 quarter pints) inoculated with Pan Trop LI. In a month or less, i hope to try my first Pan Trop mycelium extraction! :yesnod:


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28090557 - 12/09/22 04:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Yes, the first one was a fresh cake. They both tasted extremely foul, and although they were PE (and the fruits were extremely strong), I only got a mild trip from the fresh cake. I'd equate the fresh cake's trip to about a half a gram trip.

Will be looking forward to your next report.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28091159 - 12/09/22 10:53 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

OKAY

hit my keyboard by accident, i'm about to put DOMINO by Roland Kirk, you should do the same.

earlier i had 2 x 4oz cakes, they were waiting for this, maybe im not that good at this but these cakes were ready, only had one pin though but they were tight, hard and white, birthed them and scrape verm off, i used my tap water to rinse, i'm on a well, i drink that stuff, then blender thing, didn't used tang because not the sorta thing id buy just for that, 100 cran juice should be enough and it was. i blended and let sit for an hour while blending once in a while. squeeze tru shirt, taste not bad, still very earthy.

OKAY

so i'm getting body load so it's promising but after 1-2 hours couldn't really say i felt anything so i popped my backup plan, about 4 grams, that' felt like 4 grams.

there, sorry i'm still feeling those 4 grams i guess.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: orphee]
    #28091366 - 12/10/22 03:48 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Damn! Ok! Sorry it didnt work for ya. I guess the Tang is critical for the extraction? Sounds like u did everything else right thou....


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28092790 - 12/11/22 02:12 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I should also mention that the purpose of the Tang is to provide citric and absorbic acid. Its the same concept as the Lemon Tek. I chose Tang cause it conveniently contains food-acid in powder form and i like the taste.  Therefore doing Lemon Tek (no cranberry juice or Tang) on the mycelium should work just as well as this tek i modified from Erowid.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28092910 - 12/11/22 05:41 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

huh, okay maybe i fucked up with no tang, i thought i'd be just for taste... not sure i'd be willing to try again cos i know those likkle cakes would have got me hyperspace.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: orphee]
    #28092913 - 12/11/22 05:43 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

it's also been about a full year where i've been maxodosing on a weekly basis with a handful of skips. i'm like a pro, yo ;P


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: orphee]
    #28094640 - 12/12/22 02:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Understandable. I'll edit the OP to include the reasoning behind the use of Tang.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28099022 - 12/15/22 03:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

i think it would be useful, i'd still wouldn't buy tang because i have citric acid.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: orphee]
    #28179688 - 02/09/23 03:31 PM (11 months, 12 days ago)

I have a question. Since agar is used to make vegan Jello and other things and we know that it's edible, couldn't you just use something like I don't know a rectangular cake pan or something and make like a giant Hagar tray and then just mix that with the cranberry juice in the blender and drink it instead of using grain?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: StarshineBlue]
    #28179773 - 02/09/23 04:35 PM (11 months, 12 days ago)

Yeah that should work. As long as the agar is fully colonized and is showing signs of primordial pinning.

I should mention that the grain used in the tek is Brown Rice Flour and not whole grains like rye, oat or wheat berries.

Also make sure to use some form of citric acid such as Tang juice powder to aid with the extraction.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28179896 - 02/09/23 05:55 PM (11 months, 12 days ago)

Huh, I wonder if you could just wring out Violet’s POMs into your cranberry tang mixture, avoiding verm..?


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: NotSheekle] * 1
    #28555046 - 11/24/23 01:55 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Reading this post through all the way I see the original poster saying they would follow up with a try at some cakes that have been fruited, and report back.  I did not see that report.  Did you try it?

I have 18 cakes that will be finished fruiting soon and was looking for a recipe to do an extract.  I’m going to do this one with the entire batch, try a little to test potency (if any) then try and guess at a good tripping dose.  I’ll edit this post or repost when I’ve got something to say.

I’m curious about the taste question.  Seems to me there is enough other flavor in that to cover just about anything, tang, cranberry juice…not much will come through those flavors.  As to why a spent cake would taste bad?  The mushrooms from a fourth flush don’t.  I like the flavor both raw and dehydrated.  Its funky, earthy, musky, makes me feel like I’m doing something primal…

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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Fidelus]
    #28555099 - 11/24/23 02:53 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Hello there!

Thanks for your interest. I have not tried this tek on fruited cakes before. Usually when my cakes are done fruiting, they have completely molded over and/or are covered in spores, which prevents me from wanting to do a cranberry juice-Tang extract.

So i wish you the best of luck with this! :cheers:


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28555884 - 11/25/23 09:49 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

ON the first flush I picked somewhat aggressively so the shrooms did not release spores.  Also have no contamination at all on this flush.  They are soaking now…hope to get another flush or two.  If I can keep them clean I’ll try the extraction.

As far as contamination goes…Im running an experiment.  Two cakes developed a green mold on top after the first week. I removed them to another tub after cutting off the mold plus 1/2” of the top of the cake.  So far, there is no contamination at all on them (two weeks after removal of mold), but neither have they fruited…I did hold them at around 62F for a week after cutting the mold, so that would set them back relative to their kin.  It will be an interesting experiment…

If they come back I might presume that where mold grows it may indicate a weakness in the mycelium and its natural defenses.  Quite possibly, excising that section (like cleaning an infection and infected tissue from your body) may allow the remainder of the body to remain healthy.  If I do see contamination in other cakes I’ll removed them to the “tub of misfit cakes” after operating on them and try to keep them going.  Yeah, that tub is in another part of the house and its the last place I go, not the first, and everything gets cleaned afterward.


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Re: PF Cake Cranberry Juice Mycelium Extraction Tek [Re: Fidelus]
    #28556090 - 11/25/23 02:19 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Sounds like a solid plan to me!

I would guess you will get a least some kind of active extract from fruited cakes. With their numbers combined, you might even have enough actives for a decent trip! :strokebeard:

I wish you the best of luck :cheers: :yesnod:


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