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downforpot
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Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site
#2663964 - 05/11/04 03:55 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: downforpot]
#2663999 - 05/11/04 04:06 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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They behead a civilian on tape in the name of God and get defended by the world...
We strip a enemy soldier nude and point at his penis while laughing and get condemmed...
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664006 - 05/11/04 04:08 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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which world is defending al qaeda? because it is certainly not the one i live in
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: downforpot]
#2664020 - 05/11/04 04:12 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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True men of Islam are as apalled as anyone over this event.But then who here is suprised by it?Right or wrong our men dropping the moral highground opened the door for nutcase extremists to do just what we witnessed. We be in quicksand now and sliding fast. WR
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: wrong]
#2664052 - 05/11/04 04:16 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well maybe "world" the right word....
But I think most people on this board hate the US so much that theyll agree with anything that makes the US and G.W. look bad.....
Also just lots of people I know at my school feel this way too....
I said what i said cause it makes me angry....It makes me angry that if an Arab commits atrocietys, then its because the US is oppresive....but if the US commits atrocities, it because were evil....
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: whiterasta]
#2664054 - 05/11/04 04:17 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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My teachers always tell me that there is only a small number of muslims who really hate the west but every time this kind of shit if shown, I think wtf, fuckin animals.
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: whiterasta]
#2664079 - 05/11/04 04:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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whiterasta said: True men of Islam are as apalled as anyone over this event.
What makes one follower of Islam a true follower and one not? Im sure the murderers feel they are "true men of Islam".
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664091 - 05/11/04 04:25 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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how simplistic...
people who disagree with the administration hate america.
we're either with you or against you, right?
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664100 - 05/11/04 04:26 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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finally a college student who gets it. i commend you sir for being strong while being surrounded by the weak. but what you must be prepared for is the weak will try and act like this is justification for what we did when in reallity these assholes would have done this anyway the prisoner abuse is just an excuse to make G.W. look bad as you say and to try and make themselves the champeons of the arab world. hang in there young man stick to your guns you are right and everyone else just doesnt get it.
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664123 - 05/11/04 04:30 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: But I think most people on this board hate the US so much that theyll agree with anything that makes the US and G.W. look bad.....
Huh?
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....It makes me angry that if an Arab commits atrocietys, then its because the US is oppresive....but if the US commits atrocities, it because were evil....
Two wrongs don't make a right. People from the U.S. that commit atrocities are no better than Arabs that commit atrocities. Arabs that commit atrocities are no better than people from the U.S. that commit atrocities. Is barbarism to be held up as an ideal? If your neighbor tortures and murders your child, does that make it right for you to torture and murder his child?
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Evolving]
#2664149 - 05/11/04 04:36 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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quit hating.
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: afoaf]
#2664161 - 05/11/04 04:38 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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afoaf said: people who disagree with the administration hate america.
Who said that?
Or are you implying that the US prisoner abuse is directly related to the administration? I doubt that to be true, why would Bush commit political suicide one season before the election?
The US's soldiers have abused the enemy in every war, from the rape cases in Bosnia to torturing British Red coats in the revolution.....I think its simplistic to blame everything a US citizen or soldier does wrong on Bush..
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Evolving]
#2664170 - 05/11/04 04:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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i hear you man but one is an atrocitie the other is simply not. i dont know if youve ever been to mary land where that division is from but i am from there and thats just how we are man. if you were to ask any from there how they felt the would tell you that shit was funny. that doesnt make it right but atrocitie, not even close. but honestly we learn cruelty in the public schools in mary land thats just the way it is there man. and as far as the neigbor killing my kid no it would not be right to kill his but i'd most certainlt kill him. where does it end? right thur.
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664195 - 05/11/04 04:45 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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But I think most people on this board hate the US so much that theyll agree with anything that makes the US and G.W. look bad.....
my point is that most people on this board DON'T hate the US, they disagree with the policies of the government.
I'm assuming you've simply confused this disdain for hatred for america.
further, no one in their right mind hold's bush responsible for this, directly or indirectly and definitely wouldn't do so simply because this event makes him look bad.
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: CRAZYFUKR]
#2664208 - 05/11/04 04:47 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree if each neighbor commits a crime they should each be held responsible...
This is not what i see with Americans and Iraqis though....
I see Americans as a whole condemned for the actions of a few..... And I see excuses constantly made for terrorists..."sure what there doing is wrong but....its all because of America's foreign policy"
It just seems that no matter what side commits the atrocity, its viewed as America's fault...
(Also i agree that pointing at a naked penis and laughing isnt an atrocity. Honestly it reminds me of when the jocks in high school did that to me and the other nerds...Although i would not be surprised if more abuse surfaced that was atrocious. War certainly makes monsters out of men.)
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664221 - 05/11/04 04:48 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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But I think most people on this board hate the US so much that theyll agree with anything that makes the US and G.W. look bad.....
Actually, I think they hate themselves and feel guilty for being born here.
I like to call it "guilty white boy syndrome".
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: afoaf]
#2664243 - 05/11/04 04:53 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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no one in their right mind hold's bush responsible for this, directly or indirectly and definitely wouldn't do so simply because this event makes him look bad
are you serious? everyone on this board minus a few hold bush responsible for anything and everything that goes wrong. you have to realize this. all the dems including douche bag kerry hold him responsible france, like i should give a fuck the third reich oops i mean germany with all the room in the4 world to talk smack, should i continue?
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664250 - 05/11/04 04:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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More abuse has surfaced, including at least two deaths under interogation. Many of the photos we have seen are bad, but not horrible - however, there are homicides under investigation and reports of rape by US soldiers. This is not a question of fraternity hazing, or anything like it.
It is important to understand our enemies complaints even as we condemn their actions. I'm not sure that anyone blaims America for atrocities committed by our enemies - I ceartainly don't. However, we need to look at our foreign policy and consider its impact on our image in foreign nations.
That said, we should hunt down and kill the terrorists of al-Qaeda.
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664252 - 05/11/04 04:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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And I see excuses constantly made for terrorists...
where do terrorists come from?
what drives people to commit terrorism?
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: DieCommie]
#2664254 - 05/11/04 04:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Honestly it reminds me of when the jocks in high school did that to me and the other nerds...
hey man sorry about that i was young
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