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OfflineTurd
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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #2670288 - 05/13/04 03:49 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I know you're just tryin to stir shit up so I'm not gonna waste my breath  :tongue:


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2670347 - 05/13/04 03:59 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Turd said:
I know you're just tryin to stir shit up so I'm not gonna waste my breath  :tongue:



And yet... you did.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2670349 - 05/13/04 03:59 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Turd said:
I know you're just tryin to stir shit up so I'm not gonna waste my breath  :tongue:




No really, this entire shitstorm could be squashed if only the Nation of Islam would rise up against their own disfunctional members and put a stop to this.

I may seem to you like I'm stirring up shit, but i can't believe the laxadasical attitude here about that beheading.

that was just a dude from Pennsylvania trying to make some bucks and help them re-build, he wasn't even a soldier.

I suspect that nuking them will peace them out.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2670370 - 05/13/04 04:03 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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And yet... you did.





I'm a little slow... took me a couple posts to realize it

Whether or not LF is fucking around or serious, I've talked about stuff like this with his type before, and he wont admit he's wrong, so there's no point in trying.

So.... I think my time would better spent watching lesbian porn and eating bagels w/whipped cream cheese. Yum.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2670584 - 05/13/04 04:36 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Cream cheese is OK, but I'll take my bagel with butter thanks.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2670660 - 05/13/04 04:47 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

OK fine, but when you get a chance could you please tell me why the Nation of Islam is either incapable or unwilling to control it's radical, murderous members?

They can "denounce" their actions all they want, but unless they actually bring these individuals before their leaders for punishment, they aren't doing a thing to stop them and therefore save their own reputation I might add.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2670675 - 05/13/04 04:49 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Whether or not LF is fucking around or serious, I've talked about stuff like this with his type before, and he wont admit he's wrong, so there's no point in trying.





Additionally, you blaitantly categorize me, which is the exact thing you accuse me of.

How predictable. :smirk:


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #2670691 - 05/13/04 04:51 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

prove me wrong  :smirk:


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2670703 - 05/13/04 04:53 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Wrong about what? Answer the question and I will.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #2670744 - 05/13/04 04:59 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Look, bush is just plain evil. It's his fucking fault that poor christian man got his head lopped off. Maybe if america's stupid foreign policy were better, this shit wouldn't happen. I can't believe we can just go around forcing our beliefs on other cultures like this. I say we deserve it. America is an evil, evil country. Al Qaeda has every right to be pissed, it's our fault. Maybe if we didn't go around stirring shit up, this wouldnt have happened. Middle eastern people are a very, poor, oppressed group, but we have no place waltzing in there and killing them. I mean, what did they do to us? Like, the US should spend more time concentrating on important issues, man. Like, legalizing pot, man. If everyone smoked pot, the world would be fine, man.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2670798 - 05/13/04 05:11 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I certainly agree with you on the pot issue. Many times I wished it were different.

I've yet to hear any Islamic countries invite me to come over to their country, convert my citizenship over to theirs, and smoke all the pot I please though.

I would be scared to move there even if they did though. Should I get mistaken for a bubble gum theif i'd get my arm hacked off.

What is their beef with us? We don't pay them enough for OIL? What?


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #2670811 - 05/13/04 05:14 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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What is their beef with us?



Read through your posts. It's shit like that that makes them hate us.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #2670833 - 05/13/04 05:19 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I think they're jealous of our women. Chicks don't walk around in short shorts and tight, low cut tshirts over there.

In fact I have a hunch that this whole war is being secretly funded by the rich arab women, who are jealous of our daily offering of huge breasts and tight asses.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2670855 - 05/13/04 05:24 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, that's why we put panties on their heads.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #2671200 - 05/13/04 06:44 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

K guys, no disrespect if this actually happened. I find it hard to believe any media out there anymore. This could just be a hoax for that the adoring American Gov't setup. Seriously, there are some sick makeup artists now a days. Id the any solid proof that this is authentic? I'm just curious, not trying to stir da shit up.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: dastats]
    #2671485 - 05/13/04 07:54 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

uh....

as of right now I'd say there are more reasons to believe it's real than fake

I mean, what more proof could we possibly have aside from actually being there for the event...


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2672282 - 05/13/04 12:38 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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It's his fucking fault that poor christian man got his head lopped off.



Bullshit. It's the fault of those who did the deed. Scumbags, pure and simple.


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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: Turd]
    #2684919 - 05/16/04 09:17 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Turd writes:

Look, bush is just plain evil. It's his fucking fault that poor christian man got his head lopped off.

1) Bush isn't evil.

2) Berg wasn't Christian.

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Re: Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq -Web Site [Re: dastats]
    #2685018 - 05/16/04 09:47 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)


K guys, no disrespect if this actually happened. I find it hard to believe any media out there anymore. This could just be a hoax for that the adoring American Gov't setup. Seriously, there are some sick makeup artists now a days. Id the any solid proof that this is authentic? I'm just curious, not trying to stir da shit up.


Good question. After looking I failed to find any authentication of this, but I found a few points of skepticism. But then again, why would someone fake something like this? they wouldn't.

Arab linguists have said the man posing as the Jordanian Zaraqawi did not speak with a Jordanian dialect. Others have suggested the man reading the written statement may not have been a native speaker of Arabic.

Zaraqawi was missing one leg and had been outfitted with an artificial leg that did not fit or function properly. He was unable to walk or stand normally with his ill-fitting limb. No man in the group showed evidence of such an infirmity.

Numerous indigenous sources have said Zaraqawi was killed by a US helicopter attack months ago when he was unable to move quickly enough to escape the targeted house. While others managed to exit the house in time to survive, he died in the collapsed building.

As any surgeon will testify, the alleged beheading was a fake. A beheading would result in a tremendous amount of spurting blood. There would have been blood everywhere had an actual beheading taken place. When the executioner holds up Berg's head immediately following what is represented as an actual decapitation of a living person, there is no significant blood flow from the neck or blood splatters showing anywhere on the executioner. Furthermore, the cut was simply too neat to have been done crudely and with such amazing speed by a man wielding a knife. Anybody who has ever carved a turkey knows there is something wrong with the supposed beheading. The suspended head looks more like Berg had been neatly beheaded by a guillotine.

The orange jumpsuit was standard US military issue to men in custody. It is unlikely Berg would have continuing wearing a US custodial uniform if he had been released by the military as they claim. The fact he was still wearing the suit is both anomalous and suggestive. One is forced to speculate as to whether there was an immediate transfer of Berg from the US military to unknown persons, thusly preventing Berg from discarding his US prison garb.

Several of the men in the film were fat by Iraqi standards. If they were Feyadeen or mujahadeen, they probably have been living underground since the first days of the occupation. Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been shown on news stories as they have marched and demonstrated. One would be hard pressed to point out a single fat man among these thousands.

Some men had what can only be described as pasty-white hands. Once again, one would be hard pressed to find Arab men with pasty-white hands.

The lack of spurting blood suggests Berg was already dead at the time of the alleged decapitation. It is possible Berg's dead body was displayed with his head already partially or totally severed. In any case, he almost certainly was killed before the staged beheading. If so, it suggests the captors had no stomach for an actual beheading of a living person, and they opted to fulfill their assignment quietly and with the least amount of gore.

The scream that is heard has been interpreted as a woman's scream by many viewers. Videotape cognoscenti have further said the scream was amateurishly added to the tape.


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3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody.

4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue (compare with pictures at Guantanamo).

5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to change).

6) Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost motionless Berg on floor as head cut off.

7) Audio clearly dubbed in.

8) "Arab" reader flips through pages of "statement" and keeps ending up on the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what page he's on?

9) "Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin.

10) "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms.

11) When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's clothes, and even the hand of the "Arab" who decapitated Berg had no visible blood on it.

12) Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip.

13) Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open.

14) Alleged "scream" from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly dubbed in.

15) Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to "verify his identity". Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by family.

I believe that Berg (or this lookalike character) was first killed (perhaps by lethal injection, poisoning, etc.), then decapitated after dead (explains lack of blood spraying everywhere). Berg was killed by Al-Quaeda (known to be a CIA - Mossad joint venture). Berg video released at height of furor over U.S. torture of Iraqis and just before Bush was to decide whether to release additional torture videos. Now torture videos will be witheld from public for reasons of national security. Now "patriots" everywhere will laud the virtues of U.S. torture of "enemies". Sensitivity level of public gets heightened in terms of what's acceptable treatment of prisoners. Juxtaposed with decapitation, piling naked men into pyramid is nothing. Such treatment will be considered more and more acceptable even in domestic situations. George W. Bush sleeps well tonight while Berg family lives in torture. Serves Berg's father right for opposing Bush and the war of aggression against Iraq.


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