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Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? 1
#26638409 - 04/30/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Greetings, dont post here much, have learnt alot from this site, so i am eternally grateful..
Theres a style of storing food us italians call Sott'olio, its means 'with oil' marinated, ive used it all my life with various food, including gourmet mushrooms. my questions is if i used cubensis mushrooms, would the psilocybin make it to the other side alive, the process....
- Dry - normally with salt to extract the water, but dehydrator is the option here, so perfect!
- Boil in vineger 5mins max - to acidfy and cook said shrooms
- dry again, not 100% -
- store - in a jar with olive oil, herbs ect...
They keep for a longtime, they get eaten so unsure how long for, but upto 8months and properly alot more, if not forever.
So what do you think? will the psilocybin make it? i think im going to try anyway, unless its classed as having no hope in hell!
Edited by SuperMario940 (04/30/20 07:15 AM)
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: SuperMario940] 2
#26638421 - 04/30/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think the actives will leach into the vinegar when u boil them (vinegar is an acid). But if you put the shrooms AND vinegar into your final mixture, the whole should be pretty active.
Im guess u want to cook with these preserved shrooms?
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26638490 - 04/30/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do it and let us know. Seems like a hassle tho tbh.
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26638512 - 04/30/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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you can do the same process mix with vinegar at the end, 'Sott'aceto' im unfamiliar with the exact process but should work, just the liquid is active also, didnt think of that Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: I think the actives will leach into the vinegar when u boil them (vinegar is an acid). But if you put the shrooms AND vinegar into your final mixture, the whole should be pretty active.
Im guess u want to cook with these preserved shrooms?
you can do the same process mix with vinegar at the end, 'Sott'aceto' im unfamiliar with the exact process but should work, just the liquid is active also, didnt think of that
But no, no cooking, normally there good to eat from the jar.
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: SuperMario940]
#26638580 - 04/30/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you taking the shrooms out of the oil to eat them or using everything in the jar?
Psilocybin can take the heat and drying no problem but I agree with the vinegar and probably oil leaching it out. So if you’re eating the oil too then I’d think it’s ok but if you’re pulling the shrooms out and only eating those they’d be weak.
Never heard of this storage method, what’s the advantage over just dry storage since that’s the first step anyway?
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: A.k.a]
#26638855 - 04/30/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The advantage is that it's tasty as fuck.
But I guess it developed because dry storage wasn't nearly as easy in the past. Things would rehydrate over time and grow mold.
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26640229 - 05/01/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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i guess the oil would have to be consumed also, normally you would'nt sip the oil, just transfer to something else you've got going on. No real advantage perceived, as mentioned would taste nice, and more chance of my mother eating some!
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: SuperMario940]
#26640268 - 05/01/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im curious to see how well it works. Ive always wanted to make shroom Pizza, maybe with pesto. Might be tasty
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26640297 - 05/01/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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My plan is to make risotto. And breaded, deep fried mushrooms.
Edited by poisoned (05/01/20 01:18 AM)
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: poisoned]
#26640314 - 05/01/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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poisoned said: The advantage is that it's tasty as fuck.
I dont think that oil and herbs would take something that tastes absolutely awful to tasty. More tolerable yeah but def not tasty.
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: CocaineBuffet]
#26640354 - 05/01/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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CocaineBuffet said: I dont think that oil and herbs would take something that tastes absolutely awful to tasty. More tolerable yeah but def not tasty.
Interesting, i always thought cubensis tasted quite nice lol
If you treated Porchini the way you treat cubensis, i doubt it'l taste nice either.
I think a problem would be from the fact that you only use meaty mushrooms for this, bolete's & COTW's being the normal suspects, not sure what a cubensis would be like, regardless of psilocybin.
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: SuperMario940]
#26640413 - 05/01/20 03:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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SuperMario940 said:
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CocaineBuffet said: I dont think that oil and herbs would take something that tastes absolutely awful to tasty. More tolerable yeah but def not tasty.
Interesting, i always thought cubensis tasted quite nice lol
If you treated Porchini the way you treat cubensis, i doubt it'l taste nice either.
I think a problem would be from the fact that you only use meaty mushrooms for this, bolete's & COTW's being the normal suspects, not sure what a cubensis would be like, regardless of psilocybin.
I agree that cubensis tastes like an average edible mushroom (uncooked). Obviously, as mostly it is eaten raw/uncooked it tastes not great but so would quite a few edible mushrooms (I personally don't mind eating them dry on their own with a sip of water but I have seen other people gag if they are trying that).
The biggest problem I see with your approach is that you will lose lots of psilocybin in the process as it easily dissolves in water. In this case vinegar - after boiling them for just a few minutes majority of actives will have transferred into water/vinegar solution (and as it is very acidic liquid, majority of psilocybin will have turned into psilocin, potentially decreasing longevity of the potency - but this hugely depends on how it is stored).
Unless you somehow are able to recombine this vinegar/water solution containing most of the active compound with mushrooms, what you will be preserving are mushrooms with rather weak potency as it has been "washed out".
If your main goal is to produce a tasty long term storage product while still preserving potency , I don't think that Sott'olio method will result in desired outcome.
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Re: Can the psilocybin take the storage prep, cooking with actives....? [Re: CocaineBuffet] 1
#26640544 - 05/01/20 05:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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poisoned said: The advantage is that it's tasty as fuck.
I dont think that oil and herbs would take something that tastes absolutely awful to tasty. More tolerable yeah but def not tasty.
Ever tried dried to chew dried porcini? It's disgusting as fuck. Once you put it in a soup, it becomes delicious.
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