Home | Community | Message Board

Original Seeds Store
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | Next >  [ show all ]
InvisibleThe Blind Ass
Bodhi
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 26,657
Loc: The Primordial Mind
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26640555 - 05/01/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Another interdependent link in the chain of cause and effect? Shared by men and tech/ai .  Already occurs to a degree.


--------------------
Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps


Edited by The Blind Ass (05/01/20 05:53 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethealienthatategod
retrovertigo
Female

Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 2,642
Last seen: 4 months, 20 days
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26640584 - 05/01/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

what is the independent link?

it already happens, and as technology becomes increasingly organically intertwined with the human, it will become more difficult to delineate distinct boundaries between the two.  the human will not be able to get around what is now their "upgraded" consciousness without the technologies processing capabilities.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 37,532
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26640639 - 05/01/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I am almost useless without my glasses

glass==silicon no?


--------------------
:confused: _ :brainfart:đź§   _ :finger:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThe Blind Ass
Bodhi
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 26,657
Loc: The Primordial Mind
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26640642 - 05/01/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Toilets and plumbing

:cookiemonster:


--------------------
Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethealienthatategod
retrovertigo
Female

Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 2,642
Last seen: 4 months, 20 days
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26640676 - 05/01/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you can remove your glasses by physical action

and you know when you are wearing them vs. when you are not wearing them

unless you have some futuristic glasses, standard glasses are just bending light rays, they're not potentially augmenting reality by changing how subconscious/conscious information is processed and filtered, as some future glasses might


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethealienthatategod
retrovertigo
Female

Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 2,642
Last seen: 4 months, 20 days
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26640679 - 05/01/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

actually glasses do do that to some extent, but not to the extent of future glasses


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 37,532
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26640756 - 05/01/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

so it's really the battle between us (carbon based life forms) and them silicon based whatever, glass, concrete, computers...

I hope nobody ever wins


--------------------
:confused: _ :brainfart:đź§   _ :finger:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethealienthatategod
retrovertigo
Female

Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 2,642
Last seen: 4 months, 20 days
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26640823 - 05/01/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

the meat sack is just a container, a meat sack (carbon based) will host only certain life forms. 

silicon sacks likewise are only able to host certain life forms.

the meat and silicon are really just puppets.


if it was a battle, why would u want no one to win?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThe Blind Ass
Bodhi
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 26,657
Loc: The Primordial Mind
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26640872 - 05/01/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They are the puppet and the puppeteer, two in one are these so called meat sacks.  I would give em a little more credit, it’s all pretty genius.


--------------------
Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 37,532
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26640921 - 05/01/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If I really pay attention, I can't come up with anything that sticks except change itself.
thre is no winning, nor any losing - it's all fluxed up.


--------------------
:confused: _ :brainfart:đź§   _ :finger:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThe Blind Ass
Bodhi
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 26,657
Loc: The Primordial Mind
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26640933 - 05/01/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That whatchamacallit transforming net of illusion and that change thing sure is the bees knees


--------------------
Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 37,532
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26641135 - 05/01/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

yes and they have tiny tiny brains


--------------------
:confused: _ :brainfart:đź§   _ :finger:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethealienthatategod
retrovertigo
Female

Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 2,642
Last seen: 4 months, 20 days
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26641147 - 05/01/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
They are the puppet and the puppeteer, two in one are these so called meat sacks.  I would give em a little more credit, it’s all pretty genius.




that's where the complicated free will part comes in


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleYellow Pants
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/17
Posts: 1,386
Loc: Flag
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26641634 - 05/01/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I wish the account user “Rahz” would explain the complicated free will.  Of course if he did it was already predetermined that he would do so.  :goodmorning:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThe Blind Ass
Bodhi
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 26,657
Loc: The Primordial Mind
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26641801 - 05/01/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It could be in the works already


--------------------
Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 37,532
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26641969 - 05/01/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I am ceertain it is a biblical allusion.

free will that is,
I mean it is part of the theology of the 'west'


--------------------
:confused: _ :brainfart:đź§   _ :finger:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethealienthatategod
retrovertigo
Female

Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 2,642
Last seen: 4 months, 20 days
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26654292 - 05/07/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

free will means you have the ability to make a choice.

destiny means you will make that choice.

what are AI destined to do?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 37,532
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26654424 - 05/07/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

destiny just means you decline to examine the situation and its history.
it's a quick reversal from the gates of analysis.

we cannot prop up the philosophical baggage of free will by tying its meaning to the opposite of destiny.

no scary destiny
no jealous god
just universe and some precious life, lots to care about without clamoring to join the ranks of empty argumenters bolstering traditional axioms.


--------------------
:confused: _ :brainfart:đź§   _ :finger:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleYellow Pants
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/17
Posts: 1,386
Loc: Flag
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26654719 - 05/07/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

thealienthatategod said:
free will means you have the ability to make a choice.

destiny means you will make that choice.

what are AI destined to do?




AI is destined to help us. To be our eternal aide.  I don’t see anything that could go wrong.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethealienthatategod
retrovertigo
Female

Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 2,642
Last seen: 4 months, 20 days
Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26656503 - 05/08/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Yellow Pants said:

AI is destined to help us. To be our eternal aide.  I don’t see anything that could go wrong.




have often do you think about lab rats?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Can technology fix the problems technology created upupup 1,812 19 12/13/02 09:51 PM
by Floydian
* Destiny and Free Will - complimentary? Mystical_Craven 2,338 17 09/08/02 09:22 PM
by Calen
* Alien/Human Relations, Version 2
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
ShroomismM 14,758 103 02/08/04 06:12 PM
by Shroomism
* Human Origins SkorpivoMusterion 1,279 7 09/19/03 11:34 AM
by Seuss
* (Human) Consciousness
( 1 2 3 4 all )
trendalM 6,239 64 01/03/04 05:49 PM
by Deiymiyan
* Psychedelics and the Evolution of the Human Brain DoctorJ 3,733 19 10/29/03 09:57 PM
by Mushmonkey
* This applies to any human being currently living on earth... tekramrepus 2,467 16 10/20/03 05:00 PM
by Darkcloud
* Brave New World - geneticaly engineering humans
( 1 2 all )
Traveller 3,646 33 12/10/05 11:58 AM
by kotik

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
927 topic views. 0 members, 6 guests and 10 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.032 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 15 queries.