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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
#26640555 - 05/01/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Another interdependent link in the chain of cause and effect? Shared by men and tech/ai . Already occurs to a degree.
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thealienthatategod
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26640584 - 05/01/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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what is the independent link?
it already happens, and as technology becomes increasingly organically intertwined with the human, it will become more difficult to delineate distinct boundaries between the two. the human will not be able to get around what is now their "upgraded" consciousness without the technologies processing capabilities.
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
#26640639 - 05/01/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am almost useless without my glasses
glass==silicon no?
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26640642 - 05/01/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Toilets and plumbing
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26640676 - 05/01/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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you can remove your glasses by physical action
and you know when you are wearing them vs. when you are not wearing them
unless you have some futuristic glasses, standard glasses are just bending light rays, they're not potentially augmenting reality by changing how subconscious/conscious information is processed and filtered, as some future glasses might
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
#26640679 - 05/01/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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actually glasses do do that to some extent, but not to the extent of future glasses
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
#26640756 - 05/01/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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so it's really the battle between us (carbon based life forms) and them silicon based whatever, glass, concrete, computers...
I hope nobody ever wins
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26640823 - 05/01/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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the meat sack is just a container, a meat sack (carbon based) will host only certain life forms.
silicon sacks likewise are only able to host certain life forms.
the meat and silicon are really just puppets.
if it was a battle, why would u want no one to win?
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
#26640872 - 05/01/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are the puppet and the puppeteer, two in one are these so called meat sacks. I would give em a little more credit, it’s all pretty genius.
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26640921 - 05/01/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If I really pay attention, I can't come up with anything that sticks except change itself. thre is no winning, nor any losing - it's all fluxed up.
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26640933 - 05/01/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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That whatchamacallit transforming net of illusion and that change thing sure is the bees knees
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26641135 - 05/01/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes and they have tiny tiny brains
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26641147 - 05/01/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: They are the puppet and the puppeteer, two in one are these so called meat sacks. I would give em a little more credit, it’s all pretty genius.
that's where the complicated free will part comes in
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
#26641634 - 05/01/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wish the account user “Rahz” would explain the complicated free will. Of course if he did it was already predetermined that he would do so.
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: Yellow Pants]
#26641801 - 05/01/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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It could be in the works already
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26641969 - 05/01/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am ceertain it is a biblical allusion.
free will that is, I mean it is part of the theology of the 'west'
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26654292 - 05/07/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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free will means you have the ability to make a choice.
destiny means you will make that choice.
what are AI destined to do?
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
#26654424 - 05/07/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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destiny just means you decline to examine the situation and its history. it's a quick reversal from the gates of analysis.
we cannot prop up the philosophical baggage of free will by tying its meaning to the opposite of destiny.
no scary destiny no jealous god just universe and some precious life, lots to care about without clamoring to join the ranks of empty argumenters bolstering traditional axioms.
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: thealienthatategod]
#26654719 - 05/07/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
thealienthatategod said: free will means you have the ability to make a choice.
destiny means you will make that choice.
what are AI destined to do?
AI is destined to help us. To be our eternal aide. I don’t see anything that could go wrong.
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Re: could technology (ai) interfere with human free will? [Re: Yellow Pants]
#26656503 - 05/08/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Yellow Pants said:
AI is destined to help us. To be our eternal aide. I don’t see anything that could go wrong.
have often do you think about lab rats?
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