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    #26626390 - 04/25/20 06:49 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

I have a patch outdoors but is it possible to cultivate Wine caps in a more controlled indoor environment?


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Edmunter]
    #26631151 - 04/27/20 01:06 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

yup the method I use is to make supplemented sawdust/woodchip blocks and once fullying colonized cut the bag about 2 inches from the top of the block and top in with a peat/verm casing layer.


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Mad Hatter]
    #26631484 - 04/27/20 06:15 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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yup the method I use is to make supplemented sawdust/woodchip blocks and once fullying colonized cut the bag about 2 inches from the top of the block and top in with a peat/verm casing layer.




I have master mix colonising


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Edmunter]
    #26637063 - 04/29/20 03:29 PM (2 months, 13 days ago)

im going to try to join you I have some on order headed this direction


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Mad Hatter] * 1
    #26651953 - 05/06/20 12:56 AM (2 months, 6 days ago)

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yup the method I use is to make supplemented sawdust/woodchip blocks and once fullying colonized cut the bag about 2 inches from the top of the block and top in with a peat/verm casing layer.




How do you fruit?  Mono, martha? cold shock?

Im taking the plunge today.  Im casing with coir though


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Edmunter] * 1
    #26680497 - 05/19/20 07:04 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

I have zero idea of what I'm doing so I thought I should science some with it.

Trying to knock some oats-only, oats+pellets, pellets+woodchips, pellets-only with SRA.



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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: PinkStormtrooper] * 1
    #26680532 - 05/19/20 07:38 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

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I have zero idea of what I'm doing so I thought I should science some with it.

Trying to knock some oats-only, oats+pellets, pellets+woodchips, pellets-only with SRA.






Ive cased a masters mix and put it in the martha.


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Edmunter]
    #26682904 - 05/20/20 09:24 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)

I've never grown these, outdoors or in, but don't you usually want to use a casing from outdoors, like soil or something?  Not pasteurized at all?

I think it's the weird random bacteria and stuff you get from outdoors that allows them to fruit inside, at least that's what I remember seeing a few others do back a few years ago... but maybe I'm wrong :confused:


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #26683677 - 05/20/20 04:17 PM (1 month, 23 days ago)

Theyve been in the martha for 10 days nowish and nothing....I might add some soil


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Edmunter]
    #26684145 - 05/20/20 07:39 PM (1 month, 23 days ago)

my myc'd jars show nothing ditto so far but the 2 myc to agar plates I made may have some kind of life on em yet


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26685058 - 05/21/20 07:44 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Edmunter]
    #26685360 - 05/21/20 10:26 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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Theyve been in the martha for 10 days nowish and nothing....I might add some soil




Yeah I think that might help.  I wish I could find the thread from a few years ago where a couple of people from the forum got it to work... I think it was the microbes from the casing though.


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Forrester]
    #26685416 - 05/21/20 10:52 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Don't about others but straw in bags and regular bagged garden soil that I used..
Small bags and also so was the fruits.. normal room temp and light..


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Speeker]
    #26686020 - 05/21/20 04:03 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Mushroom Mountain sent a marketing email this afternoon about growing wine caps. They said to add presoaked straw and case with topsoil for container growing and so I cannot imagine it is much different growing it indoors. I have never read any literature about them beyond the growing instructions included with the spawn but everyone I speak with about them has told me that they have a relationship with soil microbes and need that to fruit (the mushrooms not the people:lol:). If any of you have an article about that I would like to read about it.

Here is the text of what the email said:


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What You Will Need
  • Presoaked straw or woodchips, or both. it is OK to mix these two substrates
  • Container: any type of plastic container (will need drainage holes in the bottom)
  • a carboard box lined with a trashbag (will need drainage holes in the bottom)
  • black nursery pots (already has holes)
  • Spawn
  • Water
  • Potting soil, and a handful of your native soil


Method
  • Step 1: Presoak the substrate the day before.

  • Step 2: Drain the substrate.

  • Step 3: Mix the spawn with the substrate really well.

  • Step 4: Fill your container with the spawned substrate. Pack it well. Leave two inches at the top for potting soil layer.

  • Step 5: Water gently so you are not washing the spawn down to the bottom of the container. Water everyday for the first week, every other day for the 2nd and 4th week. Water once a week after that.

  • Step 6: After a few weeks, the whole container should be colonized. You will see stringy, filamentous mycelium growing all through out the container. Try not do disturb it much. At this point, you will case it. Why do we need this casing? Without it, the mushrooms will not fruit. This is why you don't see king stropharia growing on logs. They are terrestrial mushrooms. Add the handful of your native soil to the casing (just in case the potting soil was sterile, not containing microbes),  and wet it down really well. Add 1-2 inches of the potting soil to cover the surface.

  • Step 7: Water. You don't want this layer drying out. To keep it humid, you may even cover the whole area with a humidity tent, which is a fancy word for a see-through plastic bag with holes in it.

  • Step 8 (Optional): Seed your whole container with some wheatgrass, to create a functional, and pretty microclimate and habitat for mushroom formation. Planting wheatgrass will elevate oxygen, and provide a dewy hideout for the baby mushrooms.






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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Edmunter]
    #26697314 - 05/26/20 03:36 PM (1 month, 17 days ago)

Sorry for the late reply. I just toss a casing layer on and put it in a Martha or I will wait to cut the bag and close it with a paper clip or something until the casing colonizes a bit. Just depends on where I have available shelf space and what will work best at that moment.

I like to keep my Martha full since it makes it easier to maintain humidity.


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: Mad Hatter]
    #26715895 - 06/03/20 06:14 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

coming back around for an update -

this was inoc from live SRA myc in a syringe from a public vendor



the lumberjack brand of wood pellets did not work for me.

The pure oats rocked out.
The ash pet bedding wood chips are looking great too.

You can see where its avoiding the pellet wood inside the jar

I'm going to try to g2g that into some 50/50 oats+ash chips to try to dilute the remaining amount of pellet wood down as much as possible.





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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26804756 - 07/05/20 07:33 AM (8 days, 14 hours ago)




the sra spreads around pretty good


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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26804760 - 07/05/20 07:36 AM (8 days, 14 hours ago)

in a tub, I waterlogged some ash bedding wood chips with a scoop of used potting soil



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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26804762 - 07/05/20 07:38 AM (8 days, 14 hours ago)

in another tub I waterlogged a cardboard box



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Re: Winecaps indoors [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26804767 - 07/05/20 07:42 AM (8 days, 14 hours ago)

then I took all that, laid the cardboard out like a taco shell inside the tub, and layered up the SRA spawn + woodchip/dirt soak mix inside that




I think Im a little thick on top, but Im going with it


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