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    #26636306 - 04/29/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Is it safe to harvest b cubensis from a monotub contaminated with a green mold (possibly Trich?), do the mushrooms usually die when the Trich invades or is there no way to tell of the shroom is heathy or not? Thanks for the feedback


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: ethano] * 1
    #26636319 - 04/29/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Trichoderma fungus is a type of mold but also isn't toxic to humans but does have some potential to adversely affect  your allergies or those with very weak immune systems . As long as it's not some other green (random unidentified toxic mold) or even aspergillus you should be aight. Stach can appear green but it is in fact a toxic black mold.

Aspergillus can cause allergic reactions similar to hayfever or even lung inflammation or excellerate pneumonia if already onset.

I'm not reccomending one way or the other when it comes to eating them as im just stating some facts.

Trichoderma sucks for mushrooms but some actual green mold sucks more for us so if it's just trich I wouldn't worry if you're that hungry. If you can't post a pic and confirm then I would only consider a boiled tea approach  after a thorough wash.


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26636464 - 04/29/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’ll upload a photo, but yes I’m unsure if it’s Trich but it’s a green mold that seemly started out as bright white mycelium, cut out nearly half of my monotub hoping to slow it down but just discovered more green so I’m just going to put it outside, and start over, would the mushrooms harvested be fine if they seemed heathy? Before I cut the original infected area out it seemed like it was killing the mushrooms in that area


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26636478 - 04/29/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Here’s photos


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: ethano] * 1
    #26636639 - 04/29/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If it's just trich then yea they're possibly still edible.

Just like fresh vegetables, if it's rotten or otherwise seems inedible then id pass on ingesting it.


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26636646 - 04/29/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If you are worried you can boil them in tea


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26636666 - 04/29/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

But how do I differentiate Trich from other green molds? I thought Aspergillus was very common as well (basically bread mold) or even Penicillium?


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26636671 - 04/29/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The mushrooms looked heathy when harvested, but the ones from the highest area of infection were clearly dying, I thought mushroom mycelium doesn’t absorb and spread the toxins throughout the mycelium network like plants do?


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: ethano] * 1
    #26636674 - 04/29/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It doesn't, but trich is a parasitic fungi and will interwove with host mycelium.


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: ethano] * 1
    #26636682 - 04/29/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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But how do I differentiate Trich from other green molds? I thought Aspergillus was very common as well (basically bread mold) or even Penicillium?




You get them identified by the community or research what to look for on your own.

Obviously I didn't tell you what it was because I don't know what it is with 100% certainty.

Aspergillus is common in the sense that it's been seen on this forum for many years from pics of other people's grows.


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: poisoned] * 1
    #26636692 - 04/29/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

But isn’t Trich relatively harmless on dehydrated mushrooms? When it’s found on just about every fruit and veggie people consume? I’m just more worried it’s a different green mold, I do know it started as a bright white mycelium which seems to be the beginning of Trich from my research but i definitely want 2nd opinions. I didn’t keep any mushrooms from the infected area but I did still keep about 3/4th of my tubs harvest


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: ethano] * 1
    #26636701 - 04/29/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Really sounds like trich. Hopefully you get more feedback.

Sorry I couldn't help


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26636703 - 04/29/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No worries I still appreciate reaching out!


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: ethano] * 1
    #26636720 - 04/29/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’m more worried this is Cladosporium ( more negative effects related with it then Trich) can anyone identify this mold? Did more research and seems like any green mold can start off as white mycelium so it’s a toss up


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: ethano] * 1
    #26636733 - 04/29/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You can boil them into tea if you're that worried. Even after you dry them if dried rapidly.


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26636746 - 04/29/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Some copy paste trich fun


Today, there are more than 200 species comprising the Trichoderma genus. The following are some of the most common:

Trichoderma harzianum: This is the most well-known species and is widely used as biocontrol agent and for enzyme production.


Trichoderma viride: For a long time, this species was thought to be the only species in the Trichoderma genus. Known as the “Green Mold of Mushrooms”, T. viride is used for suppression of many plant diseases caused by fungal pathogens.


Trichoderma longibrachiatum: This species of mold is often found in window filters, air conditioners, carpets, bathrooms and kitchens. It is known as an opportunistic pathogen of humans and can cause negative health effects in immunocompromised individuals.


Trichoderma reesei: This particular species produces cellulase, an enzyme that’s widely used in the food production, textile and paper industries. Stonewashed jeans are made with cellulase produced by T. reesei, which is what makes them soft.


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Re: Harvesting mushrooms from contaminated tub [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26636779 - 04/29/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I feel like most of those wouldn’t be a big concern (not immune comprised) I just have  paranoia  from the horror story’s I’ve read involving infections, all my mushrooms are dried cracker dry then frozen before consuming I just like to be 100% sure of no possible harm, thanks for the info!


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