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Valerian root for smoothing out the come up?
    #26635698 - 04/29/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I’ve been making tea from dried valerian root for general help with getting better sleep. I was doing some google searches and came across some posts of people calling it a psychedelic ( I don’t think so) as well as making mushroom tea with valerian for the purpose of smoothing out the come up. Anybody do this?

I’ve been making tea from 3 grams of fries root.. anybody mess with larger doses.?


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: FrancoAmerican]
    #26635702 - 04/29/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Never done it, but I could see it helping since it hits the same receptors as benzos, which absolutely smooth out the come-up. I bet chamomile, lemon balm, and L-theanine would help too for the same reasons

And I've tried very high doses of valerian extract (equivalent of 14g root) to try and achieve psychedelic effects I'd heard about. Felt like a low dose benzo, just a reduction of thought, almost a mindful feel, which I wouldn't consider "psychedelic"


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: I Love Lucid]
    #26636338 - 04/29/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'd recommend taking valerian an hr or more before the come up. I usually eat 400mg for calming effects.  Not sure how well it can ease coming up on psychedelics.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26636521 - 04/29/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks. I find valerian to be random. It doesn’t make me fall asleep easier but once I am asleep I feel like I was out cold.

It would be interesting to see if the effects are noticeable as a relaxing agent pre trip. I’ll report back.

Thanks youz.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: FrancoAmerican] * 1
    #26638911 - 04/30/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This is exactly why i use 3 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: Sabnock]
    #26639546 - 04/30/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What does the lemon balm tea do?


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: FrancoAmerican]
    #26639678 - 04/30/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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What does the lemon balm tea do?




It inhibits GABA Transaminase and raises GABA levels, so it smooths out the come up, relieves anxiety/panic/stress, aids in relaxation, and chills out the intensity. Lemon Balm by itself is fairly mild, but on Psychedelics, it's power becomes quite noticeable.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: Sabnock]
    #26639721 - 04/30/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I recently tried lemon essential oil that I've seen recommended around. Didn't seem to work and gave worse indigestion :frown:


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: oculodextro] * 1
    #26639723 - 04/30/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, pretty sure you're not supposed to eat essential oils :shrug: some people recommend it anyway, but people recommend a lot of stupid things :lol:


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: I Love Lucid] * 1
    #26639741 - 04/30/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, pretty sure you're not supposed to eat essential oils :shrug: some people recommend it anyway, but people recommend a lot of stupid things :lol:




Haha I did my research apparently it's safer in a carrier oil, but fuck these essential oils.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: oculodextro]
    #26640015 - 04/30/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I recently tried lemon essential oil that I've seen recommended around. Didn't seem to work and gave worse indigestion :frown:




Lemon EO is safe for ingestion, even undiluted, i've taken it regularly for years. Though, as far as heartburn, acid reflux, gerd and all that goes, Lemon EO isn't as good as using pure Limonene, Limonene is one of the actives found in Lemon EO, however, Lemon EO also has other compounds, like Alpha-Pinene for example, which acts as an Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor and raises levels of Acetylchloline which apparently can lead to an increase in heartburn and make matters worse. But pure Limonene, 10 drops in a capsule taken like an hour before eating, works wonders. In fact, Limonene is so powerful, that i can even prevent the purgative properties of Ayahuasca/Harmalas, just tonight i took 7 grams of roasted Rue seed powder in capsules, and still no purging lol, i wouldn't be able to stomach 7 grams of Rue without the Limonene for damn sure.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: Sabnock]
    #26640022 - 04/30/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Do sparkling waters with limonene have the same effect?


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: oculodextro]
    #26640103 - 04/30/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Do sparkling waters with limonene have the same effect?




Do they actually sell that? If so, it should definitely work, but depends on the dosage of Limonene, i use pure Limonene bought from amazon by a brand called Blubonic Industries, a big bottle of that stuff is enough to last me over a year's worth of daily dosing, probably closer to like a year and a half or so, well worth it imo, 10 drops in a capsule. Though with the water, i'd be concerned that because Limonene is an oily substance, it won't mix well with the water and will stay on top of the water rather than mix into it, i also don't know how it tastes, it has a pleasant smell though, and i don't mind the Limonene burps. Just keep in mind that with the anti-heartburn/indigestion effects of Limonene, that it may work from the get go, but i read a study awhile back that said it can take about 10 to 14 days to build up in the body and get everything worked out, but it works, i rarely ever need a zantac or tums or anything now, rarely i'll take a tums or zantac but about 95% or so of the time i only need the Limonene.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26640366 - 05/01/20 02:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

LaCroix and the like use terpenes for the flavors. So Linalool, limonene, etc


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: oculodextro]
    #26640410 - 05/01/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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LaCroix and the like use terpenes for the flavors. So Linalool, limonene, etc





Hmmm, interesting. Yeah, should work, just gotta know the right dosage, though it'd still probably be better to get the isolated Limonene if the water has other terps aside from Limonene in there, and overall for accurate dosing, but it may be worth a shot, thanks for letting me know though, i'll look more into that.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26640693 - 05/01/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I drink them pretty frequently now, used to be addicted to good old Coke (cola).

Doesn't seem to have much in it, as I still get my IBS.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: FrancoAmerican]
    #27993093 - 10/11/22 03:06 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Good idea. I will definitely try valerian root tea.


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Re: Valerian root for smoothing out the come up? [Re: NeilRayn]
    #27993097 - 10/11/22 03:18 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

In any stressful situation, I brew tea from the Valerian roots. In general, the effects are quite varied. Valerian is able to disperse bile and, improving digestion, dilates blood vessels. For a faster effect, it is better to take valerian drops, as the tea begins to act in about thirty minutes. If one of your loved ones has a nervous breakdown or hysteria, a cup of valerian roots tea will quickly bring them back to normal. It is especially good for insomnia, I drink it almost every day in the evening and sleep great all night.


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