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Seriously_trippin
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Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong?
#26635213 - 04/28/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pretty straight forward oh, do you think that for example protesters that don't wear masks and are very close to each other calling the covid-19 pandemic a hoax is not only dangerous but extremely disrespectful to all of the dead and the Frontline workers? I've been very disheartened to see not the protest although that alone was disheartening but to call this a hoax and willingly gather in large groups with no face mask very close to each other. Can we agree this is endangered lives and has already proven to cause spikes in COVID setting our efforts to reopen backwards.
Also while we're on the subject do you believe that among the many businesses that can open safely, hair cutting, tattoos and nail salons are part of that. There's no distancing at all there and although alot of business owners are being safe and careful owners out there, there's others that dont put any safety measures or guidelines in and can become the catalyst for the second wave because it's a "hoax"?
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
#26635242 - 04/28/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree. Instead of calling it a hoax people should devote their energy to solving real world problems. We do need to reopen businesses. We all can’t stay in hiding forever. We do need to be respectful of the fact that all of our actions have a very real effect on the safety of others. 3 months in and over 50k dead with reports of long lasting effects for some people even after they recover. The treatment of chronic health problems comes out of the pockets of every tax payer.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26635248 - 04/28/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Agreed.
And to your second point. No, no, and no. I do not think it's safe, and if I lived in Georgia I would not feel safe going out in public. Especially in the next 2-3 weeks, but also in general, for the foreseeable future.
My state has released reopening guidelines and it will be county by county - currently 25% of people who are tested are testing positive(in my specific area..which I gtfo'd out of because it was a bit too hot), we have to get to 3% to move to a yellow phase. Tbh I'm currently not sure what that entails, because 3% is far off. Some less populated areas(pretty much everything outside the eastern area of PA that borders NY/NJ, and even just the county that borders the counties that are on the border) will be able to reopen sooner, and imo, I'm not entirely sure how it's going to go down. I want to reopen as soon as it's safe to do so, I think parts of PA are remote enough that they'll be able to pull it off.
I don't feel safe going to even the grocery store(everything is delivered or picked up curbside at this point), I sure as shit am not driving 3 counties over to go get my nails did anytime soon. And I think many people around me feel similarly..though not everyone does, and that makes me scared for those places that will reopen.
On another note, my state is allowing things like golf courses to reopen provided they take proper sanitation measures/only allow walk ons/etc. I agree with that because I think people will ultimately be more compliant if they're allowed outdoor recreation in safe capacities.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: pirate-blues] 3
#26635295 - 04/28/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cosidering there are countries who have not locked down, not shut down schools, and have more or less gone on with life, numbers are beginning to show to be similar to seasonal flu.
Here's this guy, again.
Depends on where people are getting their information.
IMHO, this is a political black flag event, manufactured to pass bills under a guise of Covid19.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
#26635303 - 04/28/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah man this stuff sucks.
I only go into nature and eat what i have stocked up. Haven't really been anywhere public at all.
Just been going without a few things. for now anyway.
This will pass.
Kind of just learning how to be my own best friend.
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pirate-blues
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: HamHead] 2
#26635313 - 04/28/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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HamHead said: Cosidering there are countries who have not locked down, not shut down schools, and have more or less gone on with life, numbers are beginning to show to be similar to seasonal flu.
Here's this guy, again.
Depends on where people are getting their information.
IMHO, this is a political black flag event, manufactured to pass bills under a guise of Covid19.
This has killed as many people as the seasonal flu kills in a year in a single month.
This is blatant disinformation, and it's dangerous.
I've already gotten warned over flaming you, and it just seems to make you grow stronger like some kind of upside down monster, so I ain't playing with you today. Nope. Not doing it.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: pirate-blues] 1
#26635337 - 04/28/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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On Facebook I have a lot of Facebook friends on there who make posts about saying they think the corona virus is fake. I shake my head regarding that when I see read it I really just can’t believe it sometimes it is indeed dangerous. And a little disturbing to me. I do not support people who are calling to protest the stay at home order
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: ShiVersblood]
#26635430 - 04/28/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hella danger it’s not a good idea that will cause repercussions. Some folks are wired different tho and can’t rationalize rather simpler scenarios. Some just like to make noise. It’s human nature, no matter what you say there will be a part of the population who stands up against it you’ll never have 100% compliance to anything. It’s a survival characteristic to kick back at things you can’t comprehend yet perceive as invasive and threatening, now add a whopping of distrust in the government and you’ve got a perfect recipe for defiance. After all this death and destruction how can we believe the governments actions represent freedom?
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: pirate-blues] 1
#26635461 - 04/28/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I highly believe ducks were lined up behind curtains, and are being knocked down with each of these stimulus stuffs going on. A lot of money is/has been/being shifted on many levels, and those who have been called out are mearly scape goat's who may only receive a slap on their wrist and a fine amounting to a fraction of what was made.
Trump has spent three years of his presidency propping up stock markets. Sure, they have taken a hit, they are still above what was seen in 2016. There will be massive casualties on many levels. Companies may never recover from what is happening economically and more will close for good. Yet, there are companies and stocks which seem to be rebounding. Hell, BTC is trading around $7,700 today. 'Essential' companies that make our economy churn, and perhaps some selected for greedy, cheeto cheese covered fingers, have interest in, will see their stocks recover and maybe even higher highs.
Fear has forced people in. In that one hour video, the man being interviewed says that every virus is novel. If they weren't, we would not be infected by them, because our immune systems would have already been in contact and have developed antibodies. This is why a new flu vaccine is given, because each year it changes, on however small a level, making it new and unrecognizable by our immune systems.
He also says that herd immunity has been how humans have delt with viruses for a 100,000 years. By locking everyone down, herd immunity is slowed, extending an amount of time a virus has to live and spread. While we may have estimated 25% herd immunity today, if business would have gone on, herd immunity would probably be a lot higher and this virus could be on its way to extinction, like many others we, as homosapiens, have encountered.
To prevent deaths, elderly people and those with comorbidities must be protected, which on a massive scale, was a failure in US and perhaps other countries as well. Children and those with healthy immune systems should not be forced to shelter in place but to protect themselves and elderly during peak flu seasons. Every. Single. Year.
I don't mean to ruffle feathers, just wanting to show that there are other perspective on this matter. Ones which reference science, history and data.
People are wrong. I trust scientists and medical professionals with years experience who are willing to admit that they are or have been, before I trust those appointed by Trump.
Fear is a very powerful 'thing' to control. Those who are entranced by mainstream media may not be able to escape this wave that has washed over our planet.
While there are others who are brave enough to speak out when shit seems amiss.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: HamHead]
#26635474 - 04/28/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh, watching China in focus right now, she says it's one of the best times to invest in stocks as they are all at a discount and will recover once all this blows over.
Huh? Wha? I wonder?
Who has shit tons of money and may be in fear of losing an upcoming election???
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: HamHead] 1
#26635683 - 04/29/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I’ve seen the effects of this virus first hand. I’ve tangoes with hamhead in a few threads over this subject. I’ve seen people sick, dying and dead from this. Outside of wanting to make sure no one diminishes that reality, I can honestly say this whole situation has been f’d from the beginning.
Could this be a black flag operation? Hell yes.
War has become an unpopular way of controlling the masses. Maybe pandemics are the new fear factor. The majority of the world shut down over a virus? 3 months in and there is hardly any scientific consensus on what the hell we are facing.
I just saw an article today where the Japanese are claiming this virus is airborne. Airborne is the worst and most serious form of contagion. It would basically mean all of the masks that everyone is wearing are doing nothing. Airborne viruses can hang out in the air for two hours after a person leaves a room.
How is it that China has known about this since at least January and they have not determined if its airborne or not..?...not to mention the rest of the worldwide scientific community.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: FrancoAmerican] 1
#26635693 - 04/29/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its airborn. Viruses are inconceivabley small. Dust visible to the naked eye in the right light floats and blows around like no tomorrow. This virus will do the same if not better,
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
#26635696 - 04/29/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yall see that antibody study that suggests over 2.4 million were infected and recovered in NY? Without realizing they were even ever sick. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/cuomo-outlines-reopening-roadmap-for-new-york-as-daily-deaths-hit-lowest-level-in-weeks/2390949/
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26635734 - 04/29/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No I don't agree one minute its the black plagues coming next thing my neighbour now hqas it who i share a house with and everyones saying dw about it its not bad
Whole things a hoax IM for the gov to take more power fromk people and SCARE evryone into doing wutever they want which appears to be a global electronic tracking and vaccine compliance system just to start with...
It does seem to be all hype to me - thats the hallmark of a hoax.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
#26635765 - 04/29/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think it's WAY more dangerous for the government to constantly show its ineptitude via conflicting information, causing an eventual "cries wolf" scenario where nobody is going to actually listen should there be a serious threat with numbers that back up the claims (unlike what we're seeing now).
This is way less of a threat than we were told. Doesn't mean it's not dangerous. The media and health officials convinced us this was an 11/10 danger scenario, when in reality it's a tad more dangerous than the seasonal flu.
It can still be dangerous and not be catastrophic. Conflating the two is what the media hopes people do because that keeps ratings high, and they're the only ones getting paid right now....
...JUST MY not looking to convince anyone of anything.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Loaded Shaman] 2
#26635827 - 04/29/20 02:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Which is more deadly. the virus or 9 million people losing health insurance coverage by the shut downs, and their jobs etc.
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
#26635829 - 04/29/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I get some weird feelings about all this...
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
#26635830 - 04/29/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've lost so much respect for so many people for buying into this fucking bullshit
my general view of people as a whole has been refined quite a bit over the past month
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
#26635836 - 04/29/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Which is more deadly. the virus or 9 million people losing health insurance coverage by the shut downs, and their jobs etc.
Unless something changes in the course of things regarding how people are going to get by, there is a shit storm coming
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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: pixelpopper]
#26635837 - 04/29/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm learning to have faith that things will be okay. We will get through whatever the fuck *flails arms in every fucking direction* THIS shit is. Nobody knows what the hell is happening man its getting fuckin wonky and fast. We in this.
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