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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26636057 - 04/29/20 05:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Huxley taught his students a little too well me starting to thinky


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26636059 - 04/29/20 05:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If corona virus magically disasapeared tomorrow you'd still lose a lot of your rights. Things are never going to be the same. Just like the patriot act and every other erosion on our rights and privacy.




These are the types of things I'm afraid of, while these bills are being pushed through. Who knows what lies in those pages.


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26636148 - 04/29/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Asante]
    #26636954 - 04/29/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Libtards: We're all going to die of climate change, we are polluting to much and need green cars and renewable energy or we will extinct the human race!! It's science Trump Tards.

Elon Musk: Open the country back up!

I would like to get back to making green cars and renewable energy.

Libtards: Reeeeee Elon Musk is a greedy billionaire and by getting back to work he is going to kill us all!


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman] * 2
    #26637030 - 04/29/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That thinking is toxic and will destroy society. You don't have facts so you resort to just calling people that take a pandemic serious libtards. Do you really think that makes you look like you have intelligence? That you care about anyone but yourself? That you care in the slightest bit about all the people who have had their families decimated. Fuck off with that "libtard" crap .


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26637038 - 04/29/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Imagine being so blinded that you over looked where I also used the term Trump Tards


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26637042 - 04/29/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Here is a fact though, coronavirus shut downs will double or more the global starvation death rate, much more deadly than the virus, but who cares most those deaths will be outside the US border ammiright?


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26637076 - 04/29/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Almost like people are capable of caring about multiple problems at once, and even (under competent leadership) coming up with multiple solutions to address all those problems!


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26637078 - 04/29/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Caring and tangible possible realities are too different things. Communism is great in a theoretical scenario yet in real world practice sucks donkey cock


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26637092 - 04/29/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Imagine being so blinded that you over looked where I also used the term Trump Tards



No what you said in full was this
Libtards: We're all going to die of climate change, we are polluting to much and need green cars and renewable energy or we will extinct the human race!! It's science Trump Tards.

You said Libtards are saying it's science Trump tards. So you saying the word Trump tard doesn't mean jack.
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Here is a fact though, coronavirus shut downs will double or more the global starvation death rate, much more deadly than the virus, but who cares most those deaths will be outside the US border ammiright?



Find a credible source that coronavirus lockdown will "double the starvation rate across the world" there's no evidence of this and also we are talking about American shutdowns and people calling coronavirus a hoax or downplaying it in America. As the people in the same country as you are being buried you downplay and call people LIBTARDS. Do you really think that makes you a good person? Or does it not matter because you need to get back to work so fuck everyone else?


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26637099 - 04/29/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26637102 - 04/29/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

And I'm back to work the USA knows how fucked we are, I'm non essential but was deemed essential by the governor because he saw how fucked we are and now its pretend shut down. Over 70% of the work force is back to work but the news says we are in shut down lol


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26637103 - 04/29/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

but I did enjoy my 1400 a week unemployment for 3 weeks it was yummy. I got the high rate of unemployment and the inflation gets passed onto the poor in the end. I win no matter what happens quit assuming I am just being selfish lol


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26637107 - 04/29/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

With shutting down a huge portion of the economy, tens of millions of people staying home and working from home, and extreme social distancing and stay at home orders enacted, the US lost over 60,000 people to COVID in like, one month. That's close to 20 9/11's so far.  The carnage has barely even started in most rural areas, and even most cities that shut down before a major outbreak happened. Like I said when this was all starting, the problem with the shut down measures is that they will work, and people will then think they were overhyped, solely because they worked.

The death toll would've easily been in the hundreds of thousands already if nothing was done, and then continue to rise.

If half the country got it, that's 150+ million people. That's millions more that would need to be hospitalized. The US only has about 400,000 hospital beds open at any given time. If something like that happens, good luck surviving a burst appendix, heart attack, stroke or even minor things that require intervention to not turn fatal.

The MA governor reported on Friday that one Boston hospital studying the commonly used antibody test found that half of the results were false positives, for a variety of possible reasons. The numbers of people with antibodies should not yet be trusted.

The problem isn't the response, it's the fact that we have an economy and a healthcare system that completely crumbles when we make common sense decisions during entirely predictable events like viral pandemics.


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26637118 - 04/29/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Caring and tangible possible realities are too different things. Communism is great in a theoretical scenario yet in real world practice sucks donkey cock







Right and social darwinism or whatever you're advocating here is totally grounded in reality and not at all over-simplified in and of itself.

I'm not arguing for communism btw.



The famine is not, and this includes starvation in the modern age in general, a resource or supply problem for the international community, it's merely a logistical one. Can it be 100% solved? No, it's a systemic, complex issue, but it can sure as shit be mitigated significantly.


And speaking of starvation, we can't help with shit if we're starving. Basic hierarchy of needs, and totally illogical to not fix the kinks in our own supply chain before distributing food globally(but again, under any competent leadership, multiple teams and people and funds are effectively delegated to take care of multiple problems at once.). It would take a massive, synchronized, united effort of the likes that hasn't been seen since wwII though.

I think it could be accomplished in reality. It just takes a government that hasn't been starved of funding, deliberately dismantled(uh, like the entire team that was supposed to deal with a pandemic in the first place up until 2018 when they were fired, despite the world knowing that we were overdue for the next pandemic?) government that actually has some semblance of effective leadership.


Do I think someone like Biden can actually accomplish this? No. Does he stink of shit slightly less? Yeah, I guess.


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: budmanman]
    #26637121 - 04/29/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you stupid it's been all over the news. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/africa/coronavirus-famine-un-warning-intl/index.html




There are a whole host of factors that were causing 2020 to be a devastating year for those people long before COVID became a factor.

If we're going to bear the burden of the global effects of keeping our own nations safe, perhaps we should take a more comprehensive approach to solving hunger than throwing money at the problem. That approach only works if there is money to throw, and this is just one of many possible circumstances where there simply may not be.


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: feevers]
    #26637153 - 04/29/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Social darwinism? In the end flattening the curve doesn't reduce the amount of people who get sick, it just slows the rate so that the hospital doesn't get overwhelmed. Hospitals don't even know how to treat it. The total sick over time will be the same wether we do something or not.


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26637154 - 04/29/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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when in reality it's a tad more dangerous than the seasonal flu.






You probably won't see this considering you blocked me for claiming that Greta Thunberg wasn't a George Soros conspiracy, but:





And this is with 10's of millions of people staying home and nearly everyone practicing social distancing and actually doing things to prevent viral infection (aka best case scenario), while the flu numbers are more or less business as usual (worst case scenario)


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: feevers]
    #26637155 - 04/29/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Money is printed out of thin air, the national debt os not real. It is a real number. But a real consquence does not stand. Like if we ripped off a bunch of countries and went to war over the debt thats real but that's not happening. Hell I truley believe they let crypto ride and fruit as it did because they now its an out. Like who elses natural currecy is elctronic? Nobodys yet but we'll be the first if it has to go there. I thi k its been heading there all along so we can be tracked. Why would they want a currency people can hide? They dont. We print our own problems and solutions around here. Not saying its fiscally responsible, but we fugs wit it.


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Re: Can we all agree that calling covi19 a hoax is dangerous and wrong? [Re: feevers] * 1
    #26637160 - 04/29/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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when in reality it's a tad more dangerous than the seasonal flu.






You probably won't see this considering you blocked me for claiming that Greta Thunberg wasn't a George Soros conspiracy, but:





And this is with 10's of millions of people staying home and nearly everyone practicing social distancing and actually doing things to prevent viral infection (aka best case scenario), while the flu numbers are more or less business as usual (worst case scenario)




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