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Coffee Ground Grow - New Idea?
    #26634958 - 04/28/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Before I start, I wanna make VERY clear that I have already read most of the rest of Coffee Ground grow topics on this forum and I'm 100% aware of the danger of contamination. So please lets not focus on that!

Well I have an idea that might never made its appearance on this forum and something tells me that this "tek" might actually have less risk of contamination than any other around.

First of all, we are not talking about coffee grounds taken from coffee shops or used in the big expensive espresso machines.

I recently got an espresso machine that works with capsules. It's a TASSIMO machine from BOSCH. This machine is using the T-Disk capsules. (Picture at the bottom)

Those T-disk capsules, hold 2.5 to 2.3 grams of coffee inside. Now please stop here... I know this is a ridiculously small amount of substrate to grow on, lets just try it, so my question on this is, would it be still be possible a mushroom to grow even on a so small substrate?

My idea, is to not open them at all and use em as they are just by puring some liquid spores with a syringe and maybe covering somehow the little hole after that.

I guess that if that could even work(why not), the yield would be sooooo minimum but for the sake of this project I don't care about that at all, I just wanna see if that could work with actually low rate of contamination due to the fact that the coffee wont come out of the T-Disk/Capsule before full colonization.

Now that I have made my point here, I still have some questions.

1. Is it better if the coffee is dry? I guess not but I still wanna have that clear in my head.

2. Would it be better if use them on the machine a second time before?
Maybe for further sterilization or maybe to get some more of some kind of nutrients out of the substrate?????

Okay, that's all guys, I hope I explained this as good as possible and I'm really looking forward for your answers.

And please let us not repeat what we already know about coffee ground grows and focus on this special case!

THANK YOU.



Edited by cstribal (04/28/20 05:41 PM)


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: cstribal]
    #26634969 - 04/28/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So I'm thinking it would need to be hydrated and sterilized.

Running it through the machine won't sterilize it but it would
hydrate it nicely. If it could be pressure cooked I'd say after using
it then toss it in a jar with a filter lid setup and pressure cook it
@15psi for like an hr. Then noc it through the hole and let it colonize
in the jar with the filter lid setup on it...something along these lines maybe


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: cstribal]
    #26634970 - 04/28/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting project!
Not sure if there are enough nutes to produce a small flush, but it is worth a try.
I would wet the grounds. 
Maybe use a sterile syringe to squirt some water in there and let it hydrate. 
Put some micropore tape over the hole.:thumbup:


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: Mushit]
    #26634992 - 04/28/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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rumfor69 said:
So I'm thinking it would need to be hydrated and sterilized.

Running it through the machine won't sterilize it but it would
hydrate it nicely. If it could be pressure cooked I'd say after using
it then toss it in a jar with a filter lid setup and pressure cook it
@15psi for like an hr. Then noc it through the hole and let it colonize
in the jar with the filter lid setup on it...something along these lines maybe




Well yea ok, I guess that it's obviously working but that's not what this project is about!

Are you saying it's better to be used coffee or even better not used?

Thank you for replying though!

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Mushit said:
Interesting project!
Not sure if there are enough nutes to produce a small flush, but it is worth a try.
I would wet the grounds. 
Maybe use a sterile syringe to squirt some water in there and let it hydrate. 
Put some micropore tape over the hole.:thumbup:




I guess for hydration I could just use recently used capsules to make my morning coffee. But for the old ones maybe that's a good idea? Distilled water or just bottled water would be okay you say?

Also, the not enough nutes thing makes me wonder. Would it be better if I never use the capsules for making coffee to keep all of the nutes in there?


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: cstribal]
    #26634999 - 04/28/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I assumed they were going to be unused.
Keep all the nutes.
Although spent coffee is used in many mixtures.
Good sterile water is best. 
I just use well water out of the tap. 
You may want to use distilled or RO water if you are on city water.


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: cstribal]
    #26635005 - 04/28/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sorry I thought the project was to colonize coffee in the pod and
then fruit it. That why I say toss the hydrated pod in a filter jar and pressure
cook it. If it doesn't melt the plastic then you'd just open the jar
in flow/sab and inject through a hole in the pod. Then replace the jar
Filter lid and let it colonize. If it does then you could open the pod,
Toss a little damp perlite in the jar, put the pod on it, and put the
open jar in a bag to fruit.


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: Mushit]
    #26635007 - 04/28/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Mushit said:
I assumed they were going to be unused.
Keep all the nutes.
Although spent coffee is used in many mixtures.
Good sterile water is best. 
I just use well water out of the tap. 
You may want to use distilled or RO water if you are on city water.




hmmm, okay then I will probably try both used and unused to see what happens...

But the nutrient problem now got me thinking, Is there a liquified source of nutes that I could inject in there instead of just water?


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: rumfor69]
    #26635013 - 04/28/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I got a picture for that. Hold my beer.

This is a pinch of colonized grain in a jiffy seed starter.


Yes is the answer to your question.


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: Sockadin]
    #26635015 - 04/28/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Now that I read your post.

Your really want to use spent pods. The coffee can be really acidic and spent grounds will fruit better.
I say use the pod, then do like Rumford suggested and throw it in a jar and PC it.


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: rumfor69]
    #26635016 - 04/28/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

rumfor69 said:
I'm sorry I thought the project was to colonize coffee in the pod and
then fruit it. That why I say toss the hydrated pod in a filter jar and pressure
cook it. If it doesn't melt the plastic then you'd just open the jar
in flow/sab and inject through a hole in the pod. Then replace the jar
Filter lid and let it colonize. If it does then you could open the pod,
Toss a little damp perlite in the jar, put the pod on it, and put the
open jar in a bag to fruit.




oh okay, I seeee now!

Well the main problem here is that I dont have a pressure cooker lets take that for a granted and also I kinda dought the possibility of steam making its way in there, but thinking it again it might work....but still no pressure cooker!


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: Sockadin]
    #26635030 - 04/28/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Sockadin said:
I got a picture for that. Hold my beer.

This is a pinch of colonized grain in a jiffy seed starter.


Yes is the answer to your question.




In which question exactly please I lost you... I'm sorry but I dont understand what is on the pic also and how is that related! could you please explain? i guess im kinda silly xD

edit: you mean it can grow even on a that small substrate?

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Sockadin said:
Now that I read your post.

Your really want to use spent pods. The coffee can be really acidic and spent grounds will fruit better.
I say use the pod, then do like Rumford suggested and throw it in a jar and PC it.




yea I read the acidity thing somewhere that's why I thought used one would be better?

I apriciate your answers, and thats going to all of ya guys!

Edit2:

What about a way to give it some extra nutrients in a liquid form?


Edited by cstribal (04/28/20 06:40 PM)


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: cstribal]
    #26635342 - 04/28/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

These are quinoa cups from Aldi. This one had an artichoke and roasted pepper add in that I ate with chips so I could attempt to inoculate it with LC.



It has a best by date of next March so it must be a somewhat sterile environment. It also has some measure of moisture retention. :shrug:


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: ModularMind]
    #26636039 - 04/29/20 05:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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ModularMind said:
These are quinoa cups from Aldi. This one had an artichoke and roasted pepper add in that I ate with chips so I could attempt to inoculate it with LC.



It has a best by date of next March so it must be a somewhat sterile environment. It also has some measure of moisture retention. :shrug:




What are you trying to say budd? I dont get it


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: cstribal]
    #26636066 - 04/29/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'd try without a pressure cooker actually. The coffee was roasted before it made its path into this pod and I'm imagining that pathway is very clean, since impurities could easily affect taste. When you put it into the machine, it also gets busted with a few bars of pressure, even tho the temperature of that water is below boiling.


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: cstribal]
    #26636090 - 04/29/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

coffee is a sure fire way to contam out your grows for sure


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: jcm4620]
    #26636106 - 04/29/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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poisoned said:
I'd try without a pressure cooker actually. The coffee was roasted before it made its path into this pod and I'm imagining that pathway is very clean, since impurities could easily affect taste. When you put it into the machine, it also gets busted with a few bars of pressure, even tho the temperature of that water is below boiling.




Thats what I think as well, although the temp are not boiling hot but still hot enough i guess!



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coffee is a sure fire way to contam out your grows for sure




yea that everyone knows... i mentioned it on my original post!


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: cstribal]
    #26636263 - 04/29/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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What are you trying to say budd? I dont get it




You’re right. Off topic.  Good luck with your “tek”. :thumbup:


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Re: Coffee Ground grow [Re: ModularMind]
    #26636687 - 04/29/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

cstribal said:
What are you trying to say budd? I dont get it




You’re right. Off topic.  Good luck with your “tek”. :thumbup:




well thank you, I'll give it some tries after I return from quarantine!!


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Re: Coffee Ground Grow - New Idea? [Re: cstribal]
    #27317235 - 05/21/21 07:59 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Did you ever have success with your coffee ground efforts? I've been thinking of trying them myself. It seems that most people grow oysters on them, but I'm wondering how many other species might work as well.


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Re: Coffee Ground Grow - New Idea? [Re: drspacecasephd]
    #27347591 - 06/14/21 06:30 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I never tried it after all cause im currently living with my mother...if do I will post here


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