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    #26633900 - 04/28/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Flying into the window over and over? Must hurt... It's just a thought. I know insects don't have pain receptors but neither does the brain and we still get headaches.  :leaf:


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Magenta]
    #26633915 - 04/28/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Actually, they do feel pain.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26633928 - 04/28/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Magenta]
    #26633969 - 04/28/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It’s just easier to believe they don’t - bc who wants to become a, or to follow Jainism?

The science is there > entomology

I know :sad:  Poor buggies


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26633985 - 04/28/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've looked up the science. That's how i know they have no neuro receptors for pain. I'd hoped that you could post evidence for contradicting information.
I don't hate bugs by the way. I save bees from drowning all the time and once time when i was a little kid i chased another little kid around my school all day herassing them because they stomped on a snail and from. Some people might even describe me as a prodigical defender of the bug.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Magenta]
    #26634072 - 04/28/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What?  They can feel pressure, cold, heat - temperature etc etc.  what are you on about?


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Magenta] * 2
    #26634077 - 04/28/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Life is life.

I got hated for saving bugs.
Everybody told me i was bad.
They want to live too.

When i was a kid this one bully was throwing snow balls at everbody.
So i filled one up with ice and rocks and threw it at his face.
I got into big trouble. He cried hard and stuff. Felt bad.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26634078 - 04/28/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don’t kill them normally.  If I do it’s usually by accident.  Usually take them and out them somewhere else if I can.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26634104 - 04/28/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What?  They can feel pressure, cold, heat - temperature etc etc.  what are you on about?




Those are all different to pain.

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I don’t kill them normally.




I suppose this explains your insensitivity. I guess i'm not surprised when so many people live in hate. You should change some things around in your life. Take a long drink of water for example, perhaps inhale some deep breaths and think before you act. In the meantime, do some meditation and learn what luv is. :heart::iloveyou::heart:


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Magenta]
    #26634122 - 04/28/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What?  They can feel pressure, cold, heat - temperature etc etc.  what are you on about?




Those are all different to pain.

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I don’t kill them normally.




I suppose this explains your insensitivity. I guess i'm not surprised when so many people live in hate. You should change some things around in your life. Take a long drink of water for example, perhaps inhale some deep breaths and think before you act. In the meantime, do some meditation and learn what luv is. :heart::iloveyou::heart:




Nociceptive receptors are involved with pain, and they involved what I mentioned, and many d bugs has den.

I said I normally don’t murder bugs.  You some kind of bug Buddha?  I can’t help it, sometimes when I’m walking...I don’t see them in the grass, and squish...they ded.  I don’t consciously kill em bc they r friends of the ass.

How bout you learn how to love , k


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26634133 - 04/28/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26634147 - 04/28/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I save bugs when I can. If they are invading my home I'll just have to shed a tear while I commit genocide.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26634153 - 04/28/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Insects feel pain.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26634174 - 04/28/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I heard a story on npr the other week about bugs that undergo metamorphosis and tests proved that catipillars that are coditioned to avoid certain bad odors continue to avoid the odor after they liquify and turn into a butterfly. I'd assume they feel pain.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26634311 - 04/28/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If I kill a sketchy spider out of safety for me and my pets I always apologize and pay respects to the spider and or spider gods for taking charge over and terminating it's life


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26634470 - 04/28/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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https://esc-sec.ca/2019/09/02/do-insects-feel-pain/



That as a sick read. Thanks for the link!
Thanks for the thread idea Magenta that got me thinking.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Zombi3] * 1
    #26634502 - 04/28/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Mosquitoes get killed in my house, other bugs get a free ride outside or get ignored.

Fuck mosquitoes. They are the lowest of all bugs. The Epstein's of the bug world.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Magenta] * 2
    #26634771 - 04/28/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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What?  They can feel pressure, cold, heat - temperature etc etc.  what are you on about?




Those are all different to pain.

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I don’t kill them normally.




I suppose this explains your insensitivity. I guess i'm not surprised when so many people live in hate. You should change some things around in your life. Take a long drink of water for example, perhaps inhale some deep breaths and think before you act. In the meantime, do some meditation and learn what luv is. :heart::iloveyou::heart:




I look to bugs when I want to learn how to meditate. To me they are more peaceful then humans. They do what they do in an almost robotic way and yet are so spontaneous also. I wish humans were more like bugs. So basic. So efficient. Yet so free.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #26634909 - 04/28/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Bugs are monsters, you’re lucky they’re so tiny otherwise we would all be dead.


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Re: Do bugs get headaches? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26634920 - 04/28/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

In the temple where I stayed in Jp, the insects were absolutely a part of everyday life, not just that but the Zendo Hall was designed in a half open and closed way - almost like those open shrines that have a roof over them but are open to nature besides some paper windows that are always usually open.  There would be bats flying through the hall, spiders, mosquitoes, and centi/millipedes and cicadas and wasps n bees and butterfly’s.  No one was bothered by it even a little despite Zazen taking up abt 5 hrs a day in the regular calander season and novices sleeping in there nightly.  It was beautiful and in line our true nature.  When in formal zazen they would sometimes crawl over you , but you’d just be aware of it and remain in non doing.

The norm was not kill them, but to simply blow them away or gently sweep them away if they were getting in the way of ones duties.  Also, after so many daily chants and after nighttime zazen- from 10pm-5am the  cicadas making their noises in mass started to sound just like when all the monks chanted our sutras.  It was highly trippy.

It was during my stay there that I came to understand why Pokémon was invented in Japan.  And the zen short story about the spider and the meditator with an X on his belly is on Point.


Blowing on them with your breath is a better way to deal with them then by smacking them away or kicking them or smashing etc.


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