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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: Grapefruit]
    #26633607 - 04/28/20 05:17 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

On the topic of Virtue, I was prompted to read the Unabomber Manifesto while perusing Hartford's book How to Teach Disciples where Kaczynski acted on the principle that killing people was a virtue.


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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26633612 - 04/28/20 05:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A few people have suggested that I read that but I'm always pretty retiscent about the idea of even beginning to consider killing as some kind of virtue. Probably I should quit being a pussy and read it.


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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: Grapefruit]
    #26633621 - 04/28/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You'll not regret it:

83. Some people partly satisfy their need for power by identifying themselves with a powerful organization or mass movement. An individual lacking goals or power joins a movement or an organization, adopts its goals as his own, then works toward those goals. When some of the goals are attained, the individual, even though his personal efforts have played only an insignificant part in the attainment of the goals, feels (through his identif ication with the movement or organization) as if he had gone through the power process. This phenomenon was exploited by the fascists, nazis and communists. Our society uses it too, though less crudely. Example: Manuel Noriega was an irritant to the U.S. (goal: punish Noriega). The U.S. invaded Panama (effort) and punished Noriega (attainment of goal). Thus the U.S. went through the power process and many Americans, because of their identification with the U.S., experienced the power process vicariously. Hence the widespread public approval of the Panama invasion; it gave people a sense of power. [15] We see the same phenomenon in armies, corporations, political parties, humanitarian organizations, religious or ideological movements. In particular, leftist movements tend to attract people who are seeking to satisfy their need for power. But for most people identification with a large organization or a mass movement does not fully satisfy the need for power.


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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26633671 - 04/28/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I did like the power of a 93 Cadillac STS, now I would be happy with a shot of vaccine, just keep dem terrorists, fascists and socialists away from me.


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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26634034 - 04/28/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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for most people identification with a large organization or a mass movement does not fully satisfy the need for power.






I'd say that identification with a football, hockey or basketball team does indeed provide a medium by which 'most' people identify with the 'power process'.


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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26635657 - 04/28/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think it's just a laugh. Something to talk about with your mates. Cool to see how good people get at things when they really dedicate themselves to it, and a bit of fun to support a team and identify with them, so you feel their losses and wins. Provides a kind of connection ya know.

I was never really deep into sports but I do like to follow the eSports a bit. And I like it when the world cup is on cause everyone gets into it in the country, it's exciting, fun, and again a bit of a countrywide connection. Some folks definitely take it way too serious though. Not very sporting of those chaps and chapesses. But I love the chants and general cheeriness "Football's coming home! It's coming..." :grin: and so on.


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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: Grapefruit]
    #26635872 - 04/29/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I guess Kaczynski had to leave out the association with sports or he would have alienated his target audience.


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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26635910 - 04/29/20 03:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I don't know enough about it, I'll have to read it I guess if I can find some time to get around to it.


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Re: doing as good as possible [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26648358 - 05/04/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Buster_Brown said:

Some people partly satisfy their need for power by identifying themselves with a powerful organization or mass movement.




Unfortunately, many people identify more with a religion or political party, or their skin color or sexual orientation - than being human. Every label we adopt takes us further away from embracing humanity as a whole.


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