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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: Rahz]
    #26631406 - 04/27/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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however, if a tooth is compromised, and the problem can't be addressed by eliminating imbalances, a dental intervention could have a very positive impact for the rest of the body.




Compromised how? And correcting what imbalance will correct a dental problem?





the tooth is compromised, as in it's infected, and a root canal is being considered for the tooth. or, as possibly in OP's case, it is compromised by something distally In the meridian, and has provoked a change in oral posture/function to deal with the aberration.


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"Dr. Thomas Rau, who runs the Paracelsus Clinic (cancer clinic since 1958) in Switzerland recently checked the records of the last 150 breast cancer patients treated in his clinic. He found that 147 of them (98%) had one or more root canal teeth on the same meridian as the original breast cancer tumor. His clinic has a biological dentist section where all cancer patients, on reporting in, have their mouth cleaned up first -- especially all root canal teeth removed.




speaking of imbalances from a mechanical perspective, the mouth is the body's top foundation.  if you have the proper setting of the foundation at the top,  then things are more likely to function well below this point.  the dental intervention in this case could be a mouth orthotic.  with proper oral posturing, one of the greatest benefits may be the changes in the physiology of the cerebral spinal fluid.  this may have implications for the transportation of neurotransmitters through the CNS.  this could consequences for OP's mental state.


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26631432 - 04/27/20 05:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

My other brother - not the one getting over covid-19 (yay!) - is an orthodontist, and he has related to me some of the most bizarre theories of consciousness, ghosts, health, development, etc.

Dentists and orthodontists are very close to chiropractors as far as their medical and scientific conformance goes: mostly they want to get rich and usually it involved developing a technique or theory or book.


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26631587 - 04/27/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

thealien: here, change your state of consciousness by biting on this popsicle stick

rgv: sounds like a party trick


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26631783 - 04/27/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

it's a hell of a trick when the trickster takes himself seriously


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26631821 - 04/27/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

the trick is in the consciousness


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26632120 - 04/27/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

as opposed to a trick in a treat?


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26632167 - 04/27/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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the trick is in the consciousness



What’s that even mean?


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26632223 - 04/27/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

hi Blind,

reality is only physical or non-physical relative to perspective of the observer,

humans consciously register only a thin slice of the universe. 

so, how can you be so sure of what is an illusion and not?

a trick to the consciousness may be something like, sensory attitudes can be tweaked to change thoughts tied to subjective impressions.


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26632235 - 04/27/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Gotcha. :thumbup:


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26632507 - 04/27/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have heard that lightning strikes up from the earth, but otherwise it strikes either up, down or sideways.
whatever channel it choses depends on the conditions of the earth which is a body.

It could get pretty complicated but it can really knock you socks off.

I see the meridians as a mild case of lightning at the moment.


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26634823 - 04/28/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Well, basically you trying to tell me this is nonsense is really not going to work. As I said I have been investigating this for many years and have had my ideas confirmed by both real people and these websites about meridians. Even one or two of my doctors have discussed this with me about the teeth meridians on the body but not exactly about the mind. That being said, you can not convince me that body parts are not related to the mind. That is already known by many.

And just to clarify, I don’t believe that I have any “personality defect”... and I don’t see why you feel the need to insult a stranger. Perhaps it is you who have a defect? After filing my teeth down with dental tools and construction sand paper my symptoms that brought me to psychiatrists are almost completely disappeared. If I can get the teeth extracted then I will update this to confirm that it would provide further balance, equilibrium and peace of mind. It may even allow further mind expansion and third eye awakening. I don’t know.

Perhaps this would be better in another forum. I wonder if anybody else will chime in with some positive opinions.




This is a debate oriented forum. It's not inherently negative... searching for truth, questioning one's beliefs is a good thing!

I think the body's nervous system is part of the brain. I find some value in the experience of chakras. I suspect they describe an experiential stance on having a nervous system, how it acts and reacts, though in truth there is no direct proof of "chakras" as of now, as it is with many things. But it is an experience and not a thing. I'm not sold on localized meridians because it doesn't make sense physiologically nor have I had an experience of it.
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however, if a tooth is compromised, and the problem can't be addressed by eliminating imbalances, a dental intervention could have a very positive impact for the rest of the body.




Compromised how? And correcting what imbalance will correct a dental problem?





the tooth is compromised, as in it's infected, and a root canal is being considered for the tooth. or, as possibly in OP's case, it is compromised by something distally In the meridian, and has provoked a change in oral posture/function to deal with the aberration.


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"Dr. Thomas Rau, who runs the Paracelsus Clinic (cancer clinic since 1958) in Switzerland recently checked the records of the last 150 breast cancer patients treated in his clinic. He found that 147 of them (98%) had one or more root canal teeth on the same meridian as the original breast cancer tumor. His clinic has a biological dentist section where all cancer patients, on reporting in, have their mouth cleaned up first -- especially all root canal teeth removed.




speaking of imbalances from a mechanical perspective, the mouth is the body's top foundation.  if you have the proper setting of the foundation at the top,  then things are more likely to function well below this point.  the dental intervention in this case could be a mouth orthotic.  with proper oral posturing, one of the greatest benefits may be the changes in the physiology of the cerebral spinal fluid.  this may have implications for the transportation of neurotransmitters through the CNS.  this could consequences for OP's mental state.




So by eliminating an "imbalance" you can cure a tooth infection?

It all seems like pseudoscience to me. :shrug:

At any rate, filing down a tooth to correct a mental issue seems like the result of a mental issue.


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: Rahz]
    #26634879 - 04/28/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So it seems my good Viscount Rahz...so it seems.    :whathesaid:


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
    #26636093 - 04/29/20 05:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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the mouth, and more critically the teeth are connected to all the other parts of the body thanks to the meridian system.  oral posture not only affects your face muscle, bones, nerves, fascia, but also the rest of your body-  the physicality, the physiology and the even mentality.

the form and function of the oral system is not in any way separate from the rest of the body. meridian dentistry is of course taking on a very holistic view point, so anyone that says the body is separate from the mind would find no practicality in it.

the meridians work both ways, each tooth connected to an organ, so an unhealthy tooth can make an organic disordering, or a problem distally in the body can create tooth problems.

having your lateral incisors removed  may effect your kidneys and bladder.  emotionally these meridians would be connected with shame, shyness, guilt, helplessness, exhaustion, and a broken will.




You sum this up pretty well. I’m glad some people on here understand this to a degree. I of course am interested in this but I am far from full understanding. So you think having the teeth removed would cause problems. When I had the fake teeth on these incisors I had those exact issues with shame, guilt, helplessness and such and it was to an extent I could tell these were irrational feelings. But I was also self conscious about the fake teeth more than I am now about the real teeth! And most people can not notice that these 2 teeth are different on each side.

My confidence is so much more after taking it into my own hands. I finally could date the most beautiful girl who promised me a date for the previous 2 years or so and I had no follow through. And made out with her with teeth I am not happy with. If I had the two teeth gone even if girls didn’t like that I would be happier making out for one thing! She still talks to me but would not be my girlfriend while I was homeless.

As I said I filed down the larger tooth both vertically and horizontally, to the root. The small tooth, a peg tooth, has natural gaps on either side. The larger tooth after being filed down to the root sometimes has gaps and sometimes they close and I will feel the teeth touch. It is controlled by the mind, or consciousness, or both. When I’m on psychedelics, the gaps open up, and my mouth moves and is shaped in a different way. That is one reason I am interested in microdosing recently instead of macrodosing. I try not to “will” my mouth into any unnatural configuration, and it seems the best configuration is one that enables talking. I found that reading books aloud has been physically therapeutic to my mouth as well as to my mind.

In relation to that, the dentist I most recently asked to remove the tooth told me that instead I should be working on integration of my back teeth touching. As it is it is difficult to touch just the back teeth to each other without the front closing. That also is different when on psychedelics. And yes, I understand some people might consider that abuse of psychedelics or even dangerous. But it is my body and I think I am doing fine.

What might be interesting on the matter of the bladder and kidneys, is that before filing the tooth and with the fake teeth I had to urinate frequently and would become dehydrated easily. This problem is pretty much gone now and I can walk many miles without a drink. I don’t actually know if there is a direct correlation there, but it could be. I also used to get up to piss during the night often and now I generally sleep through the whole night. So overall I would guess my bladder or kidneys are already affected somehow.

What is probably more interesting and I probably shouldn’t admit this is that a couple times in the past year I have actually pissed my self in my sleep! I will be dreaming that I’m pissing and wake up and one time it was not much and another time it was some! I think that this will probably go away and I have no idea if it’s related to other factors. Always during stressful times. One of the times upstairs neighbor blasted heavy bass music so loud it was physically moving my body, louder than a concert literally. Possibly intentionally to bother me. And in my dream I went up and knocked on their door and asked them to turn it off and then pissed in the toilet! The last time I remember I dreamed I was pissing right in front of several people.

Anyway. I still want these teeth removed. I don’t like feeling the teeth there especially when the right one touches other teeth and the left one doesn’t. It causes physical discomfort that is complicated. I didn’t have these issues when I was a kid with a smaller mouth and no wisdom teeth. It is like the whole system is under more pressure.

I would consider at least the one I filed down “compromised” and my reason for wanting the other one removed would be more like symmetry.

Hope this is not TMI. I just think this is fascinating stuff.


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: Juxter2020] * 1
    #26636134 - 04/29/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have more to say about this. In my case at least. I hit my nose on the side of a pool while swimming at age 9 about. I was talking to a dentist and they agreed with me that this may have been the original cause or part of why these teeth were different. I also have other asymmetries just like many people. I had a bone tumor on my left shin removed age 18. I had minor scoliosis that reduced after tooth filing( I’m completely serious, and I think this could be one of the applications of meridian dentistry). I broke my left hip almost 2 years ago, and I often think that would not have happened if not for some pre existing weakness. I told my concerns to my surgeon. I said I felt an issue with musculature or neurological system between the left shin, the hip, and the spine. I was looking at a chart of neurological anatomy and it all lined up exactly as I felt, and that lined up with another meridian chart leading up to the lateral incisor if I’m not mistaken. It’s not to say that perhaps it was lifestyle or activity as well. Of course I went through school and used a pencil with my right hand for thousands of days while developing, and used computers and technology. If I had at some point switched to a perfect physical life as an athlete maybe I would be fine, with or without the tooth issue.

But I am in this life and this body. There are just so many factors taking place. The tooth being larger on the right side probably gave /gives me certain advantage with some kind of task, mental or physical. But it’s not like it’s something that has made me rich. Maybe with the teeth removed I won’t be able to come up with jokes the same way. I don’t know or care. Maybe I won’t be as good at writing with my right hand, or something like that. These teeth definitely affect certain musculature. I am certain of that. Then again the nervous system is already quite developed and will probably retain the effects of the teeth at least for a while. If that makes sense. I have studied nervous system a bit.

And to the suggestion of becoming a dentist or ortho, I have considered it. I have always wanted to be a scientist or doctor. I want to go back to school. I’m neither stupid nor brilliant. I am right now at the age where I’m considering lots of different paths. For one I would really enjoy a job relating to psychedelics. If anybody has tips on that point i would appreciate as well.

I used to focus on my chakras and perhaps I should more often, but yes. I can literally feel some distinct meridians if not all of them while meditating.

And the fascia. That was my introduction to the meridians. I feel them move and change often and my doctor suggested I might have a connective tissue disorder. In fact I never had the extensive testing done. But fascia is an interesting aspect.


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Re: Teeth- meridians and relations to consciousness/ organs [Re: Juxter2020]
    #26636326 - 04/29/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

a dentist gets to administer nitrous oxide (definitely psychedelic), and can inflict a great deal of pain, if you are attracted to either and want to make money you should definitely be a dentist.

Most of what a dentist does prevents future pain by providing moments of agony with a good intention and hopefully some gas.


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