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ReverendMyc

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Unexpected dose variation
#26632060 - 04/27/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Welp, that was unexpected. So I tried my PE fresh. I had never eaten fresh before. I like non-active mushrooms well enough, so the taste was pretty good. I am just confused about dosage. But I don’t know if it was due to the difference between wet and dry, the difference in variety (PE vs Gt) or because these grows were multi-spore and I just happened to grab a potent muther fucker. Or some crazy combination of all of the above.
So I don’t know if this is a trip report or what I am even asking, if anything. I know that wet versus dry has been discussed to death, but I thought I had accounted for that.
I have had dried mushrooms several times over the years sourced from different places. I still prefer LSD and am an experienced tripper, but I just love this hobby. So last week I tested my first ever flush of cracker dry GT. I made a tea of 5 grams split three ways. The level was exactly what I expected from that dose. Only a week later, I brought a couple of fresh picked samples over to a buddy’s house just to show what they looked like fresh and fruity. I figured that since I had such a bumper crop on my first go, that if we didn’t use them and they got tossed, it was no big deal. I had a couple of GTs and a couple PEs. They weighed 18 to 20 grams each. So I am thinking one bite will be just under 10 grams, so about 1 gram equivalent of dry. I just tripped last week, so I am thinking it will be a nice microdose.
I bite the head off of a Penis Envy and he chomps the top of a Golden Teacher. Tasty. About 30 minutes later, I know that this guy was active. 15 minutes after that I know that this ain’t no microdose. The floor and ceiling patterns are getting deep. We are shooting pool and the lights reflecting on the balls are past distracting. You know the drill. Music was intense and meaningful, trees and everything outside was ridiculously beautiful. I did not sleep the whole night and watched a few movies on the come down waiting for the sun to come up.
So I guess I do have questions. Is PE really that different? Or wet versus dry, psilocin versus psilocybin? Or did I just find the jackpot shroom on my first fresh bite? By my estimation, this was about 1/3 the dose of what I had a week before and the effects were significantly stronger. How do I account for that?
If I had realized it at the time, I would have kept the rest of the stem for a clone. I have clones from the batch, but since this was multi-spore, it is a crapshoot whether my clone is on this level. I guess only time and more experimenting will tell.
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The Mycologist
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Re: Unexpected dose variation [Re: ReverendMyc]
#26632067 - 04/27/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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PE is really that different
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The Blind Ass
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Quote:
The Mycologist said: PE is really that different
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nooneman


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Re: Unexpected dose variation [Re: ReverendMyc]
#26632575 - 04/27/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The potency of mushrooms can vary by as much as 10x. If it has multispore genetics it can even vary by that much from the same batch.
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Re: Unexpected dose variation [Re: nooneman]
#26633259 - 04/27/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was holding on dearly for anything resembling reality with .5 dry grams of my APE. Felt like at least 3.5 of my GT. Huge difference. Im on the sensitive side anyways but still show the difference.
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Re: Unexpected dose variation [Re: ReverendMyc]
#26634053 - 04/28/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Penis envy. I had 2.5g thinking it was a regular cube, just one that was very well grown. Needless to say I had the most intense trip of my life that I look back fondly upon 
I’m glad I had that experience because I was raising my dose to 2.5g from my regular 1.5-2g on that occasion for the first time lol. I would never have taken that much if I knew it was PE, but the experience was so great so I’m glad to have had it.
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