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Thomsen



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Cobweb mold?
#26631416 - 04/27/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey guys.
I've made 5 mono tubs the other day and today i found this. Is this cobweb mold? There's trich in one of the pictures too, i know. Other tubs have the same look to it, but not as bad and no trich.

Can i fix it? Not the one with trich. The others.
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rumfor69
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: Thomsen]
#26631535 - 04/27/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's some kind of contamination for sure and your gonna wanna toss that out
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: rumfor69]
#26631553 - 04/27/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Whatever it is, that is nasty
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Thomsen



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Yeah that doesn't really answer my question. But thanks though.
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: Thomsen]
#26633402 - 04/28/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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No there's no fix for that tub in the pics it just needs to be dumped before it contaminates your space. The other tubs I'd need to see pics of to be sure.
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: rumfor69]
#26633484 - 04/28/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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How do you know there's no fix, if you aren't familiar with the contaminant?
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: Thomsen]
#26633498 - 04/28/20 03:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The reason to throw it away is to prevent that contam from contaminating anything else. You could quarantine that tub if you wanna see what happens. You could also take the contam out and see what happens. Up to you. But you just got solid advice from a probably experienced cultivator to toss it so I would do that.
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If it really is cobweb (possible given the looks of it) then that spot will double or more in size in a matter of hours. You don't want it anywhere near your other tubs if you even suspect it.
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Thomsen



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I know why he says I should throw it away, and I know what precautions to take with the tub.
And from my perspective I didn't get a solid advice. I got an advice based on missing knowledge. Let's be honest, a guess was what that was. One can't tell whether or not there's a fix without knowing what contam it is.
Edited by Thomsen (04/28/20 07:24 AM)
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: Thomsen]
#26633721 - 04/28/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well contam is contam in the mushroom cultivation hobby and is treated the same. Doesnt matter what exact species of mold apparently. Maybe post this somewhere to get an exact species id.
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Pin mold.
Does it have black spots on the hairs today?
I don’t see trich anywhere but if that’s pinmold the tub is done. It spreads stupidly fast.
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Edited by A.k.a (04/28/20 08:20 AM)
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: A.k.a]
#26634253 - 04/28/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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InnerWisdom said: Well contam is contam in the mushroom cultivation hobby and is treated the same. Doesnt matter what exact species of mold apparently. Maybe post this somewhere to get an exact species id.
Because your tub had some bacteria in it, you can be able to grow it out. So no, a contam is not equal to a dead tub. Some people have apperently managed to treat cobweb mold with peroxide with success. That's where I was going. So again, the threat is not the same no matter the contam.
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A.k.a said: Pin mold.
Does it have black spots on the hairs today?
I don’t see trich anywhere but if that’s pinmold the tub is done. It spreads stupidly fast.
I isolated the tub the same day, and removed the top layer of coir to see what happend. The tub looks fine so far, no mold of any kind at the moment. I also removed the top layer on the other tubs, and left the lids off over night to let it dry out a bit. I figured it was too wet when I spawned it.
Nothing to see today other than healthy mycelium.
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: Thomsen]
#26634321 - 04/28/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well you seem to be the expert on contams over everyone else here glad you could share you're knowledge man.
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: WyoMX]
#26634325 - 04/28/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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WyoMX said: Well you seem to be the expert on contams over everyone else here glad you could share you're knowledge man.
And thank you for your very helpful contribution to this problem.
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: Thomsen]
#26634360 - 04/28/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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People have already told you what to do. Which is throw it out. You keep telling them no and you want to fix it. This hobby sometimes is best to throw it out and restart.
You got pics of this healthy myc from that same tub? Color me skeptical.
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: WyoMX]
#26634376 - 04/28/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry for not basing my work on guessing from people who doesn't know what kind of contam it is. I'm not saying that I don't wanna throw it out.
I do, yes.

I do expect it to come back, hence the isolation. Other tubs looks fine too.
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: Thomsen]
#26634393 - 04/28/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thomsen said:
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WyoMX said: Well you seem to be the expert on contams over everyone else here glad you could share you're knowledge man.
And thank you for your very helpful contribution to this problem.
lol at the sarcasm ...
I've seen a video on youtube where a cultivator sprayed hydrogen peroxide and did so until it killed off whatever it was. You'll know day by day whether its working or not.
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Well there’s knots, maybe you’ll get lucky and buy enough time for a flush to squeak through.
Pin mold doesn’t seem like it’s very deep rooted, more of a surface thing when I got it so maybe you cleared it out and the myc will stabilize and keep it from coming back.
I know it can hang out dormant on subs cuz a couple times I tried to clone an old stump while waiting for the next flush and got crazy pin mold immediately on the plate.
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Edited by A.k.a (04/28/20 01:49 PM)
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: Thomsen]
#26634774 - 04/28/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thomsen said: How do you know there's no fix, if you aren't familiar with the contaminant? 
It's not a matter of knowing the contaminate. You're getting a large contamination before your first flush which means it's almost %100 from your jars and is all through your tub even if you only see it in one spot. Did you inoculate your jars from a clean culture on agar? Did you use a spore syringe into grain jars? What jar lid setup did you use? These are the real questions to focus on more than trying to treat an untreatable contamination. It's in there, there's no cure for it aside from pasteurization. You can slow it down, it can appear fixed, but its always in there. And it definitely does look like pin mold.
A.k.a. is right though maybe removing the top layer will slow it down enough that you can get a flush from it
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Re: Cobweb mold? [Re: rumfor69]
#26634840 - 04/28/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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And on a second personal note...I'd just like to say mold like that can be toxic, lung and sinus tissue damaging, even carcinogenic. When you take that tub lid off your potentially wofting millions of microscopic spores into your airways. They can cause lung infections, sinus infections, other infectious diseases, and in RARE cases once in your bloodstream they could trigger an allergic reaction and cause anaphylactic shock. So I'm sorry if my advice to just toss it out was unsympathetic to your work and tub that mean a lot to you. I was merely being more sympathetic to your personal well being then that of your tub.
Edited by rumfor69 (04/28/20 04:53 PM)
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