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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: Smartattack]
#26629282 - 04/26/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Grows 24/7, 365 days a year, here we go
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26629288 - 04/26/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is there a certain difference between fresh and frozen tea from fresh? that's gonna be my next move on preserving these fresh mushrooms  
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: LREAM]
#26629300 - 04/26/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LREAM said: Freezing tea brewed with fresh mushrooms?? Thanks. Great idea. Tub should be ready for more plucking in a couple days. Will be trying.
Yep! I always do this when I have new batches. Because fresh mushrooms will only stay good for so long.. and sometimes you don't have the time to set a few hours of (out of order) to take them lol. So I brew a tea with them fresh.. and stick that brew in a mason jar and freeze it!
Still has the same aspect as a freshly harvested mushroom tea! Then I dry the rest in my dehydrator! Fresh mushrooms just have a different headspace, for sure. I trip HARD when they're fresh - especially when taken in tea form.
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LREAM said: Freezing tea brewed with fresh mushrooms?? Thanks. Great idea. Tub should be ready for more plucking in a couple days. Will be trying.
Yep! I always do this when I have new batches. Because fresh mushrooms will only stay good for so long.. and sometimes you don't have the time to set a few hours of (out of order) to take them lol. So I brew a tea with them fresh.. and stick that brew in a mason jar and freeze it!
Still has the same aspect as a freshly harvested mushroom tea! Then I dry the rest in my dehydrator! Fresh mushrooms just have a different headspace, for sure. I trip HARD when they're fresh - especially when taken in tea form.
It's these little details that make it all come together. Thanks for sharing. I'm doing this with the next batch.
So, since ice expands, how full do you fill the mason jar before freezing?
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I was a little surprised by the mason jar myself. I just bought some plastic bottles meant for freezing liquids. You can fill them up to the brim. And what's even better I got 250ml sized ones just good for one dose.
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26631091 - 04/26/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can boil it down much much more, dude. 20-30ml one dose 
In fact if you’re using lemon juice as well, you don’t need to add any water; the water in the fresh mushrooms will leak and they’ll be]oil in their own liquid
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: DJ Ed]
#26631128 - 04/27/20 12:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What about thawing and refreezing a larger bottle, is that okay? How do you make doses so small?
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26631164 - 04/27/20 01:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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InnerWisdom said: Is there a certain difference between fresh and frozen tea from fresh? that's gonna be my next move on preserving these fresh mushrooms   
Not sure but would be an interesting direction for fresh shroom research.
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26631188 - 04/27/20 01:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup asserts there is no impact on potency from thawing and re-freezing a larger bottle; the only thing that suffers is the taste, apparently.
If you make tea from say 500g of fresh mushrooms that are 90-95%bwater, that will leave approx 450ml tea, minus what evaporates. An ice cube is approx 20ml.
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: DJ Ed] 1
#26631191 - 04/27/20 01:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is an icecube a good way to keep them? I guess why not since only the surface is exposed to air. Wouldn't want those get mixed up with ordinary cubes though
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26631197 - 04/27/20 02:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26631264 - 04/27/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Don't make regular tea ice cubes 
Or maybe add cool food coloring to the cubes. Blues Cubies!
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26631275 - 04/27/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Actually it wouldnt be a problem anyways because I want to add ginger to the tea and it became a greenish color last time I brewed some. The taste was quite good and I figured the fresh ginger would be good for nausea too. Should I add vitamim c to the brew as well for antioxidation? Someone's recipe I think PrimalSoup's one called for citric acid to be added, but that doesn't help preserve the drink does it?
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26631282 - 04/27/20 03:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not sure on preservation but yeah add Vit C. Definitely should help. I wonder if adding an antioxidant like grape juice would help....
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26631291 - 04/27/20 03:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alrighty
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: InnerWisdom] 2
#26631856 - 04/27/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The citric acid is the scientific “lemon Tek”. In that you can get the exact ratio of citric acid to mushrooms to potentiate the strength by up to x2 
It’s the same principle with lemon juice, though you don’t know how much citric is in it. So the saying is, put too much in rather than too little: the correct ratio and above will double the strength. Or so I’m told. I have noticed though when I make lemon tea and use a lot of juice rather than a soaking, the trip is way more intense.
Good luck DJ Ed
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: DJ Ed]
#26631899 - 04/27/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just made tea with 143g fresh and citric acid aiming at 3g per PrimalSoup's advice (1:50) in a mushroom tea thread, but I didn't way it so I dunno, but I think it was on the safe side. I even did a 2nd extraction to test out if it holds any noticeable amount of actives.
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Re: Fresh mushrooms are freakin strong! [Re: DJ Ed]
#26632247 - 04/27/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: The citric acid is the scientific “lemon Tek”. In that you can get the exact ratio of citric acid to mushrooms to potentiate the strength by up to x2 
It’s the same principle with lemon juice, though you don’t know how much citric is in it. So the saying is, put too much in rather than too little: the correct ratio and above will double the strength. Or so I’m told. I have noticed though when I make lemon tea and use a lot of juice rather than a soaking, the trip is way more intense.
Good luck DJ Ed
instructions unclear, ended up inoculating lemons with psilocybe spores. Least I don’t have to wait for it to fruit...
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InfiniteDreams said:
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LREAM said: Freezing tea brewed with fresh mushrooms?? Thanks. Great idea. Tub should be ready for more plucking in a couple days. Will be trying.
Yep! I always do this when I have new batches. Because fresh mushrooms will only stay good for so long.. and sometimes you don't have the time to set a few hours of (out of order) to take them lol. So I brew a tea with them fresh.. and stick that brew in a mason jar and freeze it!
Still has the same aspect as a freshly harvested mushroom tea! Then I dry the rest in my dehydrator! Fresh mushrooms just have a different headspace, for sure. I trip HARD when they're fresh - especially when taken in tea form.
It's these little details that make it all come together. Thanks for sharing. I'm doing this with the next batch.
So, since ice expands, how full do you fill the mason jar before freezing?
I actually made this mistake my first time doing this. Wasn't even thinking of that haha. But 3/4ths full or a tad bit over that seems to be completely fine!!!
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