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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: sharklaser58]
#26899879 - 08/26/20 04:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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sharklaser58 said: With the recent cold snap, the mycelium I had dug up from a healthy patch and started cultivating in late June has come to life! Was topped up with pine chips and left in a covered container outside with regular misting, but I wasn't expecting any action till next autumn. Anyone have advice on how to look after it during the summer months - presumably keep the moisture up, but otherwise can you safely ignore it? Cheers

Whoo thats fast. I've read about people claiming that if you get mycelium going from stems early season - I guess maybe april - then if you're lucky you might get some coming up before the end of the season. I started trying this maybe june or july - can't remember exactly and figured next year would be the very earliest anything would happen.... guess maybe digging out the mycelium is a short cut - hope that patch is still okay..... Out of interest did you cover the mycelium with pine chips or just scatter it round or put the myc onto of the chip? earth involved etc - any details would be appreciated. Also was the pine chip already a bit aged, the myc I've got going seems to be pretty slow going on fresh pine sawdust and doesn't seem to like the fresh wood so much..
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: Dolanduck]
#26899881 - 08/26/20 04:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats what I like to see Dolan there is still hope....
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: sam11]
#26899907 - 08/26/20 05:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats what I like to see Dolan there is still hope....
Yeh man, I went to my Weraroa spot with the new dump of woodchip and had a little excavate, it seems the mycelium has taken up into the new chip in a big way. Gonna be good next year I recon!
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: Dolanduck]
#26899963 - 08/26/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomin today, after the rain - still a few about. Contemplating relocating horse poo - not my private property.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26781059#26781059
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: sam11]
#26900969 - 08/26/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, no harm was done to mycelium patches in the making of this garden! Been harvesting, watering and feeding that patch for a few seasons and it's pretty massive so I don't think spreading a bit of genetic diversity should be a problem. Borrowed about a 250gm chunk which I carefully broke up and added to an equal parts mix of soil, aged pine chips, pine needles and rotted pine cones, plus ground pumice for aeration and gravel on the base for drainage. Also added in a slurry of mushed up stems for good measure. Kept it covered indoors with warmth and humidity for a few weeks to see if I could accelerate the myc growth. The clear plastic container made it easy to watch it spread, then put it outside in the cold to see if it might fruit - and voila. As an aside, all the local parks have had a good spraying of 'blue water' from fruits off that patch so will be interesting to see if anything pops it head up over the next few seasons...
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
#26901340 - 08/26/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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nothing beats finding a magic mushroom growing on poop . Some patches be popping back up, even Xthrx and I have some new tubs which have been fruiting out these past 2 weeks.
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: Bagels]
#26901507 - 08/27/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bagels said: Shroomin today, after the rain - still a few about. Contemplating relocating horse poo - not my private property.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26781059#26781059
It's exciting to see your Alutacea patch still producing!! --> did you sample these & have anything to report on potency?
--> and yes please relocate that poo! fling it round baby, spread the love.
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: sharklaser58]
#26901540 - 08/27/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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sharklaser58 said: Yeah, no harm was done to mycelium patches in the making of this garden! Been harvesting, watering and feeding that patch for a few seasons and it's pretty massive so I don't think spreading a bit of genetic diversity should be a problem. Borrowed about a 250gm chunk which I carefully broke up and added to an equal parts mix of soil, aged pine chips, pine needles and rotted pine cones, plus ground pumice for aeration and gravel on the base for drainage. Also added in a slurry of mushed up stems for good measure. Kept it covered indoors with warmth and humidity for a few weeks to see if I could accelerate the myc growth. The clear plastic container made it easy to watch it spread, then put it outside in the cold to see if it might fruit - and voila. As an aside, all the local parks have had a good spraying of 'blue water' from fruits off that patch so will be interesting to see if anything pops it head up over the next few seasons...
Thats awesome. interesting mix it might have to give that a go... so far i have some areas of wood chip spread around under a mid size tree and also around a large flax, a couple of large buckets and 3 washing baskets which seem to be working best. I was trying to get the mycelium going in clear tubs so could see a bit of growth happening at that stage. now they are outside and I've tried to resist (unsuccessfully) digging round to have a peak at whats happening. The first basket which is maybe a month or to old now seems to be doing well but it could also be foreign mycelium as I got so of the wood chip from a big pile in a car park that had been dumped there... anyway I hope to be posting pics like yours next year.. In the mean time...


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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: sharklaser58]
#26902499 - 08/27/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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sharklaser58 said: Yeah, no harm was done to mycelium patches in the making of this garden! Been harvesting, watering and feeding that patch for a few seasons and it's pretty massive so I don't think spreading a bit of genetic diversity should be a problem. Borrowed about a 250gm chunk which I carefully broke up and added to an equal parts mix of soil, aged pine chips, pine needles and rotted pine cones, plus ground pumice for aeration and gravel on the base for drainage. Also added in a slurry of mushed up stems for good measure. Kept it covered indoors with warmth and humidity for a few weeks to see if I could accelerate the myc growth. The clear plastic container made it easy to watch it spread, then put it outside in the cold to see if it might fruit - and voila. As an aside, all the local parks have had a good spraying of 'blue water' from fruits off that patch so will be interesting to see if anything pops it head up over the next few seasons...
Hey Sharklaser, I'm thinking of doing a bit of transplanting from my late blooming spot, it's been my most prolific spot of the season. Curious to know more about the "blue water" how do you go about making this? Be nice to have some spots closer to home and less public next year.
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: StartingOver]
#26903086 - 08/27/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi Starting Over, I'm no mycologist, so stand to be corrected by more knowledgeable members on this - but mushing up fruit from several different patches and soaking overnight will make a jar of pretty blue water (I guess from the psilocybin) with a mix of millions/billions of spores. Once diluted, it's good to spray on pine bark in your garden/local park. My understanding is that a mix of spores from different genetic stock helps the creation of hyphae and hence new patches. I do it just before a good rainfall to help wash the spores into the ground. Will probably take several years for mycelium to mature to the point where fruiting occurs, but a good way to help spread the love at scale. I decided to go with propagating healthy mycelium for my home patch - its clearly much faster.
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: sharklaser58]
#26903135 - 08/27/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess I should put in a disclaimer - I'm not advocating the wholesale tearing up of patches just to make a personal crop. However with the interest in mushroom hunting, people not always taking care when harvesting, and frequent drought conditions, patches look to be under increasing pressure. I hope that careful, responsible propagation of mycelium/spores is not considered a bad thing. My grandmother was a great gardener and often took cuttings from plants to 'spread genetic diversity'. Presumably there are plenty of other mushroom hunters already doing the same.
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
#26903323 - 08/27/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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sharklaser58 said: Hi Starting Over, I'm no mycologist, so stand to be corrected by more knowledgeable members on this - but mushing up fruit from several different patches and soaking overnight will make a jar of pretty blue water (I guess from the psilocybin) with a mix of millions/billions of spores. Once diluted, it's good to spray on pine bark in your garden/local park.
No need to blend multiple mushrooms into water. Just use one mushroom stipe base (or half a cap even) and you can still dehydrate the remainder of the fresh mushroom for consumption.
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jbnz said: Take a little piece of stem from mushrooms you find and use it to colonize a new patch. I agree with the other posters that you should try to avoid digging up mycelium from patches as it disrupts the networks and can ruin them. The last thing I want to see is psilocybe patches destroyed and replaced by galerina. I think shroom hunters should actively promote the 'fitness / survival' (in the biological sense) of psilocybe species rather than decreasing it. If you have copious bark chips colonized at home for example, take one and put it in newly wood-chipped gardens every now and then to help them out.
Here is some pictures of a piece of cap I used to start a new shroom pot a few years back. You can do the same thing with a piece of stem.

Y'all straight-up over-complicate things...
Wow pretty impressive. I’ve got a terrarium with mycelium growing in it, it’s a mix of potting mix, cultivated woodchip and aged wood chips. Put 20 spore prints into distilled water to make some of that purple stuff and soaked the chip too.
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Where should I keep it?
Should I put it outside for part of the day?
If I had a fridge at the right temperature could I alternate between the fridge overnight and outside to cause evaporation in the soil aka make the mycelium fruit?
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: Dolanduck]
#26903395 - 08/28/20 01:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great points Roger, so far this year I've just been scattering older manky ones around my backyard, I figure since I had a few sterile subs pop up this year then perhaps it's a good environment. I've put a few stems out there as well. Might try getting something going on cardboard as well with the handful I collected today, or try the water thing.
This has been my first real year of being back in the hunt after around 25 years I'd say. Will spend the time between now and next season reading up on cultivation so I can spread the love next year.
Here's the sterile subs that appeared in my backyard this year.

Hopefully next year might get something more substantial.
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: Dolanduck]
#26903397 - 08/28/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess it has been a pretty frequent topic on this "hunting thread" seems so more now the season is tailing off..... and I guess for some it's a bit tiresome. For me it's interesting even if it is mostly just us folks that are new to the game speculating, plus it keeps the thread going. I do agree that the best way to go about this is just to use the base of the stem, or any other part of the mushroom. This is my first time attempting this and even my inept fumbling has produced results - not fruit but mycelium. There are some pretty decent guides on this site out there that show you how to get things started, but I'm always interested to know what others are doing and what they find works best. Yes I am salty that I have competition for my shrooms. I want them all. I guess that starting up my own patch at home is sort of like an insurance policy of sorts, it's never going to replace the hunt though. On top of this my ultimate goal is once/if I do have my own patch I'm not going to feel guilty grabbing bits out of it to colonise buckets of chip that I can then spread round town creating new patches. We should all do this for our childrens sake. Won't somebody think of the children!!!!
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: StartingOver]
#26903400 - 08/28/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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StartingOver said: Great points Roger, so far this year I've just been scattering older manky ones around my backyard, I figure since I had a few sterile subs pop up this year then perhaps it's a good environment. I've put a few stems out there as well. Might try getting something going on cardboard as well with the handful I collected today, or try the water thing.
This has been my first real year of being back in the hunt after around 25 years I'd say. Will spend the time between now and next season reading up on cultivation so I can spread the love next year.
Here's the sterile subs that appeared in my backyard this year.

Hopefully next year might get something more substantial.
Spread the love man. Also I would add that from my limited experience getting the mycelium going in a semi controlled environment instead of just chucking bits of shroom straight in the garden seems to work best. I tried putting stems and bits and pieces in amongst chip at home but it never really took. Here are a few of my attempts.
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 I've probably done about 7 or 8 little tubs like that. The fresher the shroom the better it seemed to work, and stems worked better than caps (both work). There usually was a point where things start to get a bit funky so I took that as a cue to transfer outside. Please note no patches were hurt in the making of these tubs, all from stems.....
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: sam11]
#26903408 - 08/28/20 02:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spread the love man. Also I would add that from my limited experience getting the mycelium going in a semi controlled environment instead of just chucking bits of shroom straight in the garden seems to work best. I tried putting stems and bits and pieces in amongst chip at home but it never really took. Here are a few of my attempts.
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 I've probably done about 7 or 8 little tubs like that. The fresher the shroom the better it seemed to work, and stems worked better than caps (both work). There usually was a point where things start to get a bit funky so I took that as a cue to transfer outside. Please note no patches were hurt in the making of these tubs, all from stems.....
I may have left it a bit late this year but we'll see, fingers crossed might get something going. Definitely into sharing the love. I've checked so many spots this year that look perfect but with nothing growing, be great to spread some love around all those spots.
I've pretty much been sober for the last 18 years and have just started experimenting with shrooms and a bit of the green stuff. Staying away from booze and the harder stuff that almost ruined me in the past. Have to say my life has been a lot more interesting these last few months.
Looking forward to next year.
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Re: *THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND MUSHROOM SEASON THREAD 2020* ~ NO ID REQUESTS! ~ [Re: sam11]
#26903410 - 08/28/20 02:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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@Dolan - I reckon outside full time is your best bet, thats where it is normally. Last summer I cleared an area inside a big flax bush and me and my son would hang out in there. Thats where my shrooms are now, nice and hidden but still getting the natural temps. I'm keen to try shocking a basket into fruiting by putting it in a chest freezer.... but don't want to risk it till I have a few established
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