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Help with my first grow!
    #26629754 - 04/26/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys, so for my first grow I'm using a simple noob friendly tek. Here's the link to the video if you're interested:


I bought 3lb sterilized grain bags, I'm going to be purchasing 64qt tubs, coco coir, vermiculite, a water mister, a clamp lamp, and a 6500k florescent light bulb.

The plan is to inoculate the sterilized grain bags with 6cc of spores and to let that sit, grow to 30%, and then shake it up. Once the grain bags are fully colonized, I'm going to mix 2 of my 3lb bags with bulk substrate that is 50% coco coir and 50% vermiculite, both pasteurized, together in a 64qt plastic tub to a height of 4 inches. Once the mycelium has colonized the substrate fully, I will mist the sides of the tub and the bottom of the lid, leave the lid cracked open (hopefully I can find a tub with a transparent lid) and place my clamp lamp with my 6500k florescent light bulb in a position that allows for light to shine perpendicular to the center of the tub. I will mist the tub roughly 3 times per day, depending on how much humidity appears to be present in the tub, and I will do a 12 hour on/12 hour off light cycle. I may end up buying heating pads so that my tub can remain at 77f-82f or whatever since I don't want my room to be that warm 24/7.

A few questions:

Does the temperature matter when the grain bag/tub is being colonized, or does it only matter when it's time to fruit? Does the temperature fluctuate from one process to another? Could I get away with keeping my room at roughly 72f and would that simply mean that I would see slower fruiting?

This is supposed to be a process where a failure to follow perfect sterilization procedures isn't going to cause contamination. Do you advice concerning sterilization for a tek like this?

Does my plan above sound correct? Is there anything that I've missed?

To anyone willing to watch the video linked above and come back to fill in the blanks and clear up some of the vagueness in that video, I appreciate you!

Thanks in advance!


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: OnlyHuman]
    #26629782 - 04/26/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Oh boy that video again. :sad:

Sticky posts to fill in and repair the vagueness and bad


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26630266 - 04/26/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What's wrong with the video? Was anything he said wrong, or is there anything that you find it necessary to add on to?


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: OnlyHuman]
    #26630300 - 04/26/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

For one thing, as vague as he was about inoculation, it seems like he's implying using a syringe to shoot spore water into bags. That's a really old-school and failure-prone way to do things.

Syringes are inherently not clean since mushrooms fruit in a non-sterile environment; anything can land on mushrooms and get around their gills after the veil breaks. It's not recommended to use them directly on grains for this reason. You would be better off trying the PF tek, which is designed to better the chances for syringes, or starting agar and putting a drop to a plate to grow and clean up. The links in bodhi's signature have the info to do that and more.


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: MethodicalMystical]
    #26630574 - 04/26/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I made it 5 min in. That guy is just trying to sell pre sterilized grain bags. They are fine but really unnecessary unless you’re planning to grow once and never again. Otherwise get a PC and do your own grains.

And this tek is “noob friendly” as he put it only if you’re already starting with fully colonized clean spawn. He just kinda left out how to get to that point. Spawning to bulk is super easy and no longer necessary to be sterile but what about the real work to get clean grain spawn? Shooting spores into a bag of grain is a Spray and Pray way of doing it. Occasionally it will work out, often it will not.

Growing mushrooms is a race. You try for 100% sterile spawn with only your mycelium growing but that is hard, if not impossible to achieve. What you’re really doing is giving your myc the best chance to take over first. Starting with spores on grain you will be looking at several weeks in that jar/bag of grains and other things will often get a hold in that time.

You want to go to agar first, make sure you have germinated spores already and no other stuff growing with them, then prepare your grain and put a wedge of that active mycelium in and it will take over before anything else can, put that to bulk (bulk should never be pure vermiculite) and again your mycelium will take over before anything else can. Get a couple 3 flushes and toss when something else gets ahold or let your sub struggle on for a while longer if it’s still clean.

Mist substrate directly, never the sides or lid


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: OnlyHuman]
    #26630629 - 04/26/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah alot of what he said is wrong. Who the fuck made that video?

You can buy my grain bags for about 16 buck, but go fuck your self when your looking for coco choir.(I spelt it like he said it)  This amateur makes growkits look like a good idea.

Oh and moded tubs are harder but better, but harder so not a good idea. Lol


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: MethodicalMystical]
    #26630652 - 04/26/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So you don’t recommend any of the all in one bags? For a first time grower


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: Dznts433]
    #26630667 - 04/26/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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So you don’t recommend any of the all in one bags? For a first time grower



I don't....DIY is so much more satisfying and rewarding.


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: Dznts433]
    #26630668 - 04/26/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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So you don’t recommend any of the all in one bags? For a first time grower





Is it your intention to remain a first timer or are you feeling like this is your jam? You can go the half-ass way 100 times and you still haven't made the leap over the first level. If you just want a few doses you should just buy some. If you're looking to become a grower then we all got your back but never watch that crap again lol.

There's a link in the signature of the first fellow who answered you. You could end up with 100lbs dry without ever asking another question just by reading that stuff thoroughly.


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Re: Help with my first grow! [Re: Smartattack]
    #26630825 - 04/26/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Dznts433 said:
So you don’t recommend any of the all in one bags? For a first time grower





Is it your intention to remain a first timer or are you feeling like this is your jam? You can go the half-ass way 100 times and you still haven't made the leap over the first level. If you just want a few doses you should just buy some. If you're looking to become a grower then we all got your back but never watch that crap again lol.

There's a link in the signature of the first fellow who answered you. You could end up with 100lbs dry without ever asking another question just by reading that stuff thoroughly.



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