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No moisture since pinning 1
#26629556 - 04/26/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi community,
I posted last week about my first grow, and everything seemed to be going swimmingly, as my pins arrived around 3 days ago. I have since have opened the bag up as per the instructions and in comparison to the pins initial blossom, growing around 1/4-1/2 inch over a 24 hour period, they have since seemed to have slowed down/not grown at all.
In the first week, the tub was placed in another corner out the way of direct sunlight - as I felt this would help keep the humidity higher to start the generation of growth. I have since moved it into more sunlight, but still not direct. I have also stopped spraying/misting since opening the bag up (as per instructions tells me too). Since these changes I have noticed that there is barely any condensation on the bag now at all (let alone in comparison to last week).
FYI - I have been fanning 3 times per day.
Questions
1. Is this because I've stopped misting and/or moved the bag to more direct sunlight?
2. Would anyone recommend me to start misting again anyway? Or is the fact that there is no condensation means the bag is getting plenty of chance to breathe?
3. As seen in the photos, on a few corners some of the pins are growing in the corners against the plastic tub. Should I change the way the cake is to help let these grow and increase my harvest?
-------------------- The reason why toadstools always grow so close to each other is because they are contented with minimal space. They don’t need mush-room to grow. 
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Re: No moisture since pinning [Re: thelensblog] 1
#26629562 - 04/26/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks dry as fuck. You should be directly misting the block when it needs it
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Re: No moisture since pinning [Re: bodhisatta]
#26629574 - 04/26/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes. To second this.mist the cake directly if you fanning 3 times a day leave the bag closed in between. It looks like your creating the environment for it to dry and cause your pi s to abort.
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Re: No moisture since pinning [Re: Sockadin]
#26631423 - 04/27/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Update - I have now misted before overnight and the grow and it seems to have had an immediate positive effect and looking a lot healthier. I spray misted from about two meters 6-7 sprays before bed last night at around 10:00pm. I have also added another 2-3 sprays this morning around 10:30am.
I am still noticing a small cluster of pins growing on two groups on opposite corners now. Around 7-8 mushrooms per group. I guess this is because the air is tighter to the tub it creating the right environment for the pins to start initially, and since misting again this will encourage them more (but will not have the space too due to the tub stopping them.
Questions
1) Should I continue misting now for as long as I feel necessary? At any point should you stop? I.E. closer to when they are harvesting as they will have all the moisture they need inside the mushroom?
2) Should I carefully take the cake from the tub, to encourage growth from all angles? Would I replace the tub with a larger sterile tub or just place the cake in the bag?
Apologies again if any nooby questions. I'm asking genuinely to learn, as I intend to upgrade my process from a bag to make my own monotub next time. So questions are all in the aid of learning for future trips (Y)
-------------------- The reason why toadstools always grow so close to each other is because they are contented with minimal space. They don’t need mush-room to grow. 
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Re: No moisture since pinning [Re: thelensblog]
#26631427 - 04/27/20 05:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would recommend getting/making a terrarium for fruiting. That bag is too dry for that PF Kit.
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Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: I would recommend getting/making a terrarium for fruiting. That bag is too dry for that PF Kit.
I don't think a terrarium is possible, I'd not even heard of one till I just 'Googled it'. I was thinking from what my research showed me something similar to a mono tub, and place the cake on one of its sides?
Also how dry is too dry/too wet? Any experience here would be great to enlighten me.
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Re: No moisture since pinning [Re: thelensblog]
#26631494 - 04/27/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Search "Vented Reptile Terrariums". Premade but should still work.
Something like this terrarium.
If the air feels dry inside the bag, then its too dry. U can feel the moisture of the air with your hands. Should feel like a damp forest.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Search "Vented Reptile Terrariums". Premade but should still work.
Something like this terrarium.
If the air feels dry inside the bag, then its too dry. U can feel the moisture of the air with your hands. Should feel like a damp forest.
Thanks buddy. I have sprayed twice again today and when I'm airing out/misting i've put my hand in and get that damp forest feeling. The top of the substrate feels moist again.
My only concern again now is the ones growing on the side. I'm happy to continue misting and ignoring the instructions - and just using my noggin!
-------------------- The reason why toadstools always grow so close to each other is because they are contented with minimal space. They don’t need mush-room to grow. 
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Re: No moisture since pinning [Re: thelensblog]
#26631893 - 04/27/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Keep on spraying as much as it needs it. You want to find a balance between letting in fresh air and keeping things humid enough that the mycelium doesn’t dry out.
You should read up for starting your own grow. Everything you need to get started the right way - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021 check out the flow chart
Agar is simple, there’s a video in there somewhere of pouring plates in a still air box. It’s too easy and you can now see any contaminants and get away from them, clone mushrooms that perform well, save those cultures long term, make liquid inoculate or whatever else.
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