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DarkDancer81
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P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii?
#26627624 - 04/25/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi! I found these in my lawn this morning. Does anyone know if they are P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? I’ve attached pics and spore prints! Thanks!
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Psilosadhu



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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: DarkDancer81]
#26627638 - 04/25/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Panaeolus cinctulus 👍
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26627676 - 04/25/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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really? I would've said foenesecii. How can you tell?
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: evlyshrooms]
#26627681 - 04/25/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Black sporeprint. Foenesecii has brown.
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DarkDancer81
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26627685 - 04/25/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow, sweet thanks! I read that the spore print can be similar and that I should do one on black paper (if the paper stays black = cinctulus and brown = foenesecii) - do you think it’s necessary to do that to confirm?
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Psilosadhu



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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: DarkDancer81]
#26627694 - 04/25/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, white paper or tin foil is good 👍 Hold it in bright light to make sure it isn't dark brown. This could very well be panaeolus olivaceus as well, which isn't always active.
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26627710 - 04/25/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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P. cinctulus is not nearly as brittle as this mushrooms, you can see the stipes have snapped during handling. That spore print is purple-brown, not black
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26627715 - 04/25/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cool! The last pic in my post was taken in natural light - It’s actually kind of hard to tell - I guess I would say maybe a lighter black?
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Moria841]
#26627718 - 04/25/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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They look black on my phone. But if you see brown, it's brown.
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26628082 - 04/25/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is difficult to tell the difference in foe and banded mottle gill prints unless you have them side by side, These are foes
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26628098 - 04/25/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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https://www.color-hex.com/color/201212
That's the colour I grabbed straight from the image, dark purple brown
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Moria841]
#26628109 - 04/25/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice tool!
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: Moria841]
#26628119 - 04/25/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bummer! I did another spore print on foil to see if it was easier to tell - thought I’d post for the final verdict!
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: DarkDancer81]
#26628143 - 04/25/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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For the future, leave the cap over night, then you'll get a much better print 👍
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Re: P. Cinctulus or P. foenesecii? [Re: DarkDancer81]
#26628320 - 04/25/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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P. Foe.
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