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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: watermelon mon] * 1
    #26627996 - 04/25/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Yes we should.

Probably near Toronto.




yeah, was telling psi sometime last year that it should be feasible for me to make a batch of brownies and take the train
will need to figure out a place to crash tho

wonder if Via Rail will have deals on tickets after this is over to try and drum service back up...


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Tantrika]
    #26627997 - 04/25/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



they did it.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: cannabinated] * 2
    #26628000 - 04/25/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Then we get the sexy sister running things from da top instead .


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 2
    #26628007 - 04/25/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494324-27m-new-yorkers-have-had-coronavirus-preliminary-data-shows%3famp

this would mean the death rate in NY is much lower than we thought.




The covid mortality rate so far in NYC is .2% (16200 deaths)

For reference the average mortality rate for the flu in NYC I n a year is .05% (4000 deaths)


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 1
    #26628014 - 04/25/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8252613/amp/True-scale-North-Koreas-coronavirus-deaths-likely-exceeds-imagination-defector-warns.html

This isnt exactly a shock but a defector is supporting what we all suspected. North Korea is lying about having no covid cases.




Another country that doesn’t have zero cases like promised

I’m sure Kim is just trying to be hopeful


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26628015 - 04/25/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:camping:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26628019 - 04/25/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

BANANA.MAN said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8252613/amp/True-scale-North-Koreas-coronavirus-deaths-likely-exceeds-imagination-defector-warns.html

This isnt exactly a shock but a defector is supporting what we all suspected. North Korea is lying about having no covid cases.




Another country that doesn’t have zero cases like promised



Yeah I geuss NK lying to the world and using authoritarianism to suppress information is the exact same as trump jumping the gun


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
    #26628020 - 04/25/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
If they dont open soon crazy americans are gonna start shooting up/bombing hospitals.



Morrow did you see the Washington post article about all the covid related strokes they’re discovering. There’s been a huge spike in people under 50 having strokes.



yes, I did. The kind of DIC this is causing is strange, it's not a bleeding type. giving fresh frozen plasma wont work, something about the relationship between renin-angiotensin system and tissue plasminogen activator goes wonky and these little clots form on the edges of the microvasculature. seems that the the kind of strokes they are having, according to what I read, are very treatable. these people need to come to the hospital, most of their lives could be saved. the media is honestly contributing to the death toll in a way. they need to talk about the virus but they need to be more explicit with letting people know that it is still safe to go to the ER. with these folks who are developing more clots during the surgery to remove other blood clots... hate to say it, but those folks may not have any "known comorbidities", but they had some kind of UNknown comorbidity. something genetic with the epithelium or liver maybe.


all I can say anecdotally is that if young people are dying of strokes in larger than usual numbers here, it isn't happening in the hospital. my hunch is that covid is far, far more widespread in certain regions than we've realized, and hardly spreading at all in others. the other possibility is that we have a weaker strain down here. even among people being hospitalized here, there is very little covid19 related mortality- especially not among the young. we have actually seen a decrease in people presenting to the ER with stroke symptoms. also chest pain, drug overdose, car accidents... fuck, everything, honestly. it could honestly be the case that fewer people in general are having strokes and MIs because so many people are just relaxing at home, I don't know. Or maybe they are just rotting away in their houses.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: watermelon mon]
    #26628021 - 04/25/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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:camping:




:cookiemonster:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26628026 - 04/25/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

BANANA.MAN said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494324-27m-new-yorkers-have-had-coronavirus-preliminary-data-shows%3famp

this would mean the death rate in NY is much lower than we thought.




The covid mortality rate so far in NYC is .2% (16200 deaths)

For reference the average mortality rate for the flu in NYC I n a year is .05% (4000 deaths)



so the infection/death rate is most likely no more than 1 percent. just as I suspected based on some of South Koreas numbers and more recently some numbers from the netherlands and LA county.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26628034 - 04/25/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

morrowasted said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
If they dont open soon crazy americans are gonna start shooting up/bombing hospitals.



Morrow did you see the Washington post article about all the covid related strokes they’re discovering. There’s been a huge spike in people under 50 having strokes.



yes, I did. The kind of DIC this is causing is strange, it's not a bleeding type. giving fresh frozen plasma wont work, something about the relationship between renin-angiotensin system and tissue plasminogen activator goes wonky and these little clots form on the edges of the microvasculature. seems that the the kind of strokes they are having, according to what I read, are very treatable. these people need to come to the hospital, most of their lives could be saved. the media is honestly contributing to the death toll in a way. they need to talk about the virus but they need to be more explicit with letting people know that it is still safe to go to the ER. with these folks who are developing more clots during the surgery to remove other blood clots... hate to say it, but those folks may not have any "known comorbidities", but they had some kind of UNknown comorbidity. something genetic with the epithelium or liver maybe.


all I can say anecdotally is that if young people are dying of strokes in larger than usual numbers here, it isn't happening in the hospital. my hunch is that covid is far, far more widespread in certain regions than we've realized, and hardly spreading at all in others. the other possibility is that we have a weaker strain down here. even among people being hospitalized here, there is very little covid19 related mortality- especially not among the young. we have actually seen a decrease in people presenting to the ER with stroke symptoms. also chest pain, drug overdose, car accidents... fuck, everything, honestly. it could honestly be the case that fewer people in general are having strokes and MIs because so many people are just relaxing at home, I don't know. Or maybe they are just rotting away in their houses.




Frankly, I’ve rarely been as naturally relaxed than I have been in the past 2 days.  As for the trend- some of both (rotting-avoidance / relaxing-more non doing)


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #26628044 - 04/25/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Society doesn't need people who would consider drinking bleach




And other toxic harmful substances such as alkyl nitrites, alcohol, and tobacco smoke  :wink:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: The Blind Ass] * 6
    #26628054 - 04/25/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Ythan said:
So I dunno if anyone needs a mask but you can apparently get a KN-95 here for $3.
Use discount code "1STLOVE" for free shipping on your first order.



I received my '95' masks in 6 days.:thumbup:

I'm still waiting on a 10 pack of Surgeons masks I ordered 2 weeks ago from another source.
:ohwell: . . . :peace:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: HamHead]
    #26628056 - 04/25/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Doug Ford isn't pleased with Ontario people protesting and calling the virus fake:
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Ontario Premier Doug Ford called anti-lockdown protesters at Queen's Park on Saturday "a bunch of yahoos" and said they were being "selfish" and "irresponsible" for demonstrating against provincial emergency orders in place to slow the spread of COVID-19.

Scores of people gathered on the Ontario legislative grounds on Saturday afternoon to call for an end to the shutdown of many services, businesses, activities and public spaces across the province amid the pandemic. At its peak, the protest drew about 200 people.

Ontario has been under a state of emergency for 40 days and much is closed as the number of COVID-19 deaths, hospitalizations and cases continues to rise.

Ford, when asked by a reporter at a news conference about the protesters, blasted their actions.

"These people that are absolutely irresponsible, it's reckless to do what they're doing. Personally, I think it's selfish," Ford said.

The premier said front-line health-care workers at Toronto hospitals near the legislature are working long hours to protect the community and to tend to people who have fallen ill due to the virus. The vast majority of people are staying at home and practising physical distancing to do their part as the curve flattens, he added.

"But then, we have a bunch of yahoos out in the front of Queen's Park, sitting there, protesting that the place isn't open, as they are breaking the law and putting everyone in jeopardy, putting themselves in jeopardy, putting the workers in jeopardy. And God forbid one of them ends up in the hospital," Ford said.

"We are better than this as a people and as a province."

The premier added he would like the economy to restart more than anyone else, but he will not put people at risk for the sake of the economy and he pleaded for people to be patient. "We'll get there."

On Saturday, the Ontario health ministry reported a total of 811 deaths from COVID-19.

The ministry said 245 people are in intensive care units. The total number of cases in the province sits at 13,995, which is 3.5 per cent increase over the number reported on Friday.

According to a count by CBC News, which involves tracking numbers through public health units, there have been 901 deaths in Ontario.



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'Cure is worse than the cause,' organizer says

In an email to CBC Toronto before the protest, an organizer of the anti-lockdown protest at Queen's Park said the event would be peaceful. The organizer explained what the group would be trying to do at the event while people with COVID-19 are fighting for their lives in hospital.

"The cure is worse than the cause," the email reads.

"Health and economics are not mutually exclusive, We are fighting for small business, the working class, the poor, students, victims of domestic abuse, people waiting for elective medical procedures, the right to peaceful assembly, the list is endless. We choose freedom, liberty and the balance of mental and physical health," the email continues.

The organizer said protesters would be "encouraged to follow health guidelines with common sense." At the rally, some protesters appeared to be keeping two metres apart from one another, while others did not.

Mayor John Tory agreed with Ford, saying the quickest way to end the shutdown is for people to stay home.

"Gathering in a large group is to thumb your nose at well accepted science and professional health advice. It risks undoing the good we have all sacrificed to achieve together. In fact it runs the risk of making the shutdown longer," Tory said in a statement on Saturday.

Tory added he is well aware that the city measures, bylaws and closures are challenging for residents.

"I understand how frustrating the city's lockdown measures can be and I too want the city to open back up as soon as it is safe to do so. But in order to do that, we need to be sure that the virus is contained. This is about saving lives from a very deadly virus."



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-shutdown-protesters-queens-park-yahoos-1.5545253

bunch of them without masks, again
but do like the acronym the lady used for her FEAR sign

but she prolly borrowed the idea from a yoga studio where the E was for experiences


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26628059 - 04/25/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Because those things kill you right away and provide no positive stimulus

Riding a motorcycle is a lot different than playing Russian roulette

Even Russian roulette has a fun component, bleach drinking has none.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26628063 - 04/25/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

you can post it on social media and get likes from people you pretend are your friends :shrug:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26628068 - 04/25/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That’s the mortality rate for covid in NYC so far this year. MR is usually presented as deaths per 100K

Covid is 200
Homicide is 4
The Flu is 50
All Causes is 800

Already, Covid will be the number one cause of death in NYC for 2020


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26628074 - 04/25/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

yeah for sure. NYC is gonna be in trouble next winter when flu and covid19 hit hard simultaneously. I still foresee a housing market boom here when the data about regional transmissibility starts being more solidified.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26628221 - 04/25/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Morrow did you see the Washington post article about all the covid related strokes they’re discovering. There’s been a huge spike in people under 50 having strokes.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26628333 - 04/25/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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koods said:
That’s the mortality rate for covid in NYC so far this year. MR is usually presented as deaths per 100K

Covid is 200
Homicide is 4
The Flu is 50
All Causes is 800

Already, Covid will be the number one cause of death in NYC for 2020




Wow, only 50 for influenza?

:highfive:

IMO, might as well add those 50 to covid, or vice versa, and call it a day.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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