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Psyche delics
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You gotta treat people like shit
#26625955 - 04/25/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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People like and respect you more when you treat them like shit
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Thanatos10
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Psyche delics] 2
#26625962 - 04/25/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's not really respect but more like fear.
Plus I can say from personal experience that this is the fast track to being hated and definitely not respected.
However people don't like doormats either. I think the word you're looking for is assertive. Or being firm but fair. It garners respect because you take a stance but aren't hard headed about it.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Psyche delics]
#26625969 - 04/25/20 12:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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People with low self-esteem flock to self-deprecating shit, in a wonderful psychological gymnastics display.
Abusers stay with the abuse, women flock (in general) to guys that trash on them ("negging"), and people in general love to have Chef Gordon Ramsey tell them they suck.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Loaded Shaman] 2
#26626055 - 04/25/20 01:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know what he's saying.
Maybe it's just me. I've found some of the only people who really appreciated being treated nice, to be like. Full of face tattoos and stuff.
They are scary but genuinely nice and real. Like they speak what the mean and stuff.
Edited by watermelon mon (04/25/20 01:42 AM)
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There's a lot of ego that floats around with people who want to set social hierarchy when dealing with others. Personally I find the games boring, many don't have the energy for it, many feel they can't compete and many other people who have reached a point where they have automatic respect because of who they are or what they do as well.
I have had famous friends just for the reason that I only ever treated them as people. When I met them asked them how that are, listened to the answer, acted like a human, and only ever treated them as a person. There's so many ways to be lonely in this life.
Which all comes back to the ego. I think I'm more important (or I'm insecure) so I treat you like shit, you think I must be better than you because I treat you like shit so you want to be my friend. Silly games.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Thanatos10]
#26626199 - 04/25/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Thanatos10 said: It's not really respect but more like fear.
Plus I can say from personal experience that this is the fast track to being hated and definitely not respected.
However people don't like doormats either. I think the word you're looking for is assertive. Or being firm but fair. It garners respect because you take a stance but aren't hard headed about it.
Assertive is the proper balance of soft-kindness and aggressiveness. The most ideal balance.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26626485 - 04/25/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Respect comes though fear.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Psyche delics]
#26626494 - 04/25/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's not about treating other people like shit as much as it is refusing to let others do the same. I understand what you're trying to say - there's a certain point where being an asshole is appropriate - but much of that is perspective based and not actually an excuse to let loose on people.
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Psyche delics
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No some people only respect people like that I did a social experiment in high school and ignored a select group of people, those people where up my ass trying to please me for the next few months.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Psyche delics]
#26627043 - 04/25/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some people do its like guys giving each other shit constantly, it's expected from both sides, the shit talking keeps everyone in clearer perspective kinda, Like there's sometimes respect in mates shit talking each other a lot, I've experienced this, though not with family, ever, for some reason.
I always can easily know when it goes from good shit talking to downright disrespectful shit talking, those people aren't friends
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: trees]
#26627081 - 04/25/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree with Thanatos, you need to give respect to get respect, and those that don't reciprocate aren't worth your time. Unfortunately sometimes you have to deal with shitty people like that and I'm not the best at it.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: ninja cat 09]
#26627097 - 04/25/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Even diametrically opposed individuals can still hold respect for each other because they give it, because despite their strong stances they don’t belittle others for it.
Treating others like shit speaks of entitlement, like you are owed something. You ain’t owed shit. You aren’t a self made person, no one is. You were brought in as a naked and scared babe and only made it through the help of those around you.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26627106 - 04/25/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Loaded Shaman said: People with low self-esteem flock to self-deprecating shit, in a wonderful psychological gymnastics display.
Abusers stay with the abuse, women flock (in general) to guys that trash on them ("negging"), and people in general love to have Chef Gordon Ramsey tell them they suck.
I simply do not trust people who take themselves too seriously. Cockiness and a lack of humility are huge red flags telling me someone is a little too fucked up to associate with. Normal people don’t need to promote themselves constantly.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: ninja cat 09]
#26627122 - 04/25/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think for some people treating others like shit is their MO and they dont have anything else to offer. I think they are clinically known as being a psychopath. I mean to them they "gotta" but to most it's abhorrent.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Patlal] 1
#26627141 - 04/25/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Respect comes though fear.
This attitude is prevalent in authoritarian personality types. Most people do not think this way.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: koods] 1
#26627147 - 04/25/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Umm...I always thought respect comes through...wait for it, respect.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: Patlal] 1
#26627149 - 04/25/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Patlal said: Respect comes though fear.
LOL true respect comes not from fear. Fear comes from fear.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26627156 - 04/25/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if op is serious or not...
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26627160 - 04/25/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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True respect towards another person comes from seeing how they respect you and others. And usually people do not like being treated like shit. I mean treating like shit is the absolute opposite of respectful treatment of another.
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Re: You gotta treat people like shit [Re: InnerWisdom] 1
#26627265 - 04/25/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Treating people like shit to me is going out of your way to put them down. That will not work
Treating people as a means to and end can definately get you respect as long as you are clear and upfront about that
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