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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26626305 - 04/25/20 05:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Its almost April 30th. Thats when Trump/Federal Gov eill be "Open America".

Phase 1, pretty interesting and well thought out: https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/#phase-one


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Re: Viral outbreak in Chin [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26626369 - 04/25/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The biggest hospital in Milwaukee county is a ghost town. My friend in medical imaging has nothing to do all day. As you can imagine imaging is one of the more busy parts of a hospital. There's definitely people dying from preventable things in their homes. That will be forgotten about




Overall non-covid mortality is likely to be significantly lower than than normal. Wouldn’t be surprised if traffic related fatalities are cut in half or more.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26626381 - 04/25/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I never saw Trump suggest the use of disinfectants internally or otherwise to the general public.

I saw Trump suggest to a practitioner the expirimentation and exploration of bleach in a non-conventional sense but nowhere did he suggest for the general public to practice this.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26626399 - 04/25/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Viral outbreak in Chin [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26626411 - 04/25/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The biggest hospital in Milwaukee county is a ghost town. My friend in medical imaging has nothing to do all day. As you can imagine imaging is one of the more busy parts of a hospital. There's definitely people dying from preventable things in their homes. That will be forgotten about



No kidding dude work is a yawnfest lately

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You have posted a fair bit about concerns that people are not going to the hospital for serious conditions and suffering for it
and that has been sort of a point of rumination to me with regards to the implications
but just came across a newly posted article with regards to extreme backlogging of surgeries here in Canada
and it makes me ask if you are strictly in emergency care, or if you participate in more "routine" surgeries for things like heart attacks



all we do in the ER is try to stabilize patients and send them to the next appropriate place- home, ICU, OR, the morgue etc. Patients coming in with chest pain are diagnosed in the ER with STEMI/NSTEMI via EKG, and then we just try to make sure they dont die until the docs do whatever they decide to do. If the patient gets percutaneous coronary intervention for example we send them to OR for that. The most complicated procedure i see done in the ER is honestly just central line placement. Which RNs dont do.

We still do PCIs, but the number of ppl coming in for chest pain is less than half what it was before. Some of those people were just drug seekers though bc docs gove out morphine for complaints of severe chest pain


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26626425 - 04/25/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Fear runs the world.  I used to think it was overrated, but current times just go to show how extraordinarily effective it is.

I think starvation will prove to be a stronger motivator than fear in the long run.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 3
    #26626427 - 04/25/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I never saw Trump suggest the use of disinfectants internally or otherwise to the general public.

I saw Trump suggest to a practitioner the expirimentation and exploration of bleach in a non-conventional sense but nowhere did he suggest for the general public to practice this.




While that distinction exists, it is still a moronic suggestion.  Anyone with the slightest bit of education would ridicule that.

I guess I'll just saunter up to the guys at CERN and point out what they should be doing with the large hadron collider cause I had some ideas while I was taking a shit the other day.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26626431 - 04/25/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder if anyone tried to tell him those were terrible ideas before he went public with them.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: psi] * 3
    #26626435 - 04/25/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think it occurred to him while standing on stage. You can see him turn around and read the part of the slide where it talks about using disinfectant and you can almost see a little lightbulb go off in his head. He then goes into his little "maybe yall could look into injecting this" speech. The dude legitimately did not realize that scientists had already considered injecting people with bleach and decided it was not a good idea

Its honestly almost like he never even saw the powerpoint before then looked at it and was like "holy shit... eureka! Ill be the hero everyone needs! What about injecting disinfectant.?????"


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 4
    #26626445 - 04/25/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I never saw Trump suggest the use of disinfectants internally or otherwise to the general public.

I saw Trump suggest to a practitioner the expirimentation and exploration of bleach in a non-conventional sense but nowhere did he suggest for the general public to practice this.




He doesn't explicitly say "Americans should do this", but he does heavily imply that the technique will work and further experimentation should be conducted at leisure ASAP. Hes very convincing that he believes its a good idea, which honestly scares me for multiple reasons.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26626459 - 04/25/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah musing publicly that it might work to an audience of an entire country is potentially dangerous, even without an explicit "try this at home".


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26626464 - 04/25/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I think it occurred to him while standing on stage. You can see him turn around and read the part of the slide where it talks about using disinfectant and you can almost see a little lightbulb go off in his head. He then goes into his little "maybe yall could look into injecting this" speech. The dude legitimately did not realize that scientists had already considered injecting people with bleach and decided it was not a good idea

Its honestly almost like he never even saw the powerpoint before then looked at it and was like "holy shit... eureka! Ill be the hero everyone needs! What about injecting disinfectant.?????"





:lolsy:

He definitely deserves a timeout in the shame box after that.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26626472 - 04/25/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I never saw Trump suggest the use of disinfectants internally or otherwise to the general public.

I saw Trump suggest to a practitioner the expirimentation and exploration of bleach in a non-conventional sense but nowhere did he suggest for the general public to practice this.




He doesn't explicitly say "Americans should do this", but he does heavily imply that the technique will work and further experimentation should be conducted at leisure ASAP. Hes very convincing that he believes its a good idea, which honestly scares me for multiple reasons.





He should try it out, be the pioneer we need in these times.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26626491 - 04/25/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Trump is positive about everything right now.  He doesn’t care how stupid it is because he knows it will be taken out of context and make the media look bad.

If there’s anyone who thinks trying these non-suggestions for themselves, (especially injecting bleach) is an idea worth implementing then that would be quite reckless.

He asked a couple of questions, so far the other question he asked hasn’t been addressed because it might have some merit.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26626496 - 04/25/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Someone vulnerable to suggestable information might take this speech as fact. Its dangerous. And for a President to joke around with misinformation like that is just plain reckless.

Just read the comments of this iPhone Headphone "Hack" Video:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Tantrika]
    #26626527 - 04/25/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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lol I'm not even addressing the PC issue anymore. you are. I already said you win many times. I'm addressing your mischaracterization of me.
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Still trying to treat it as a competition; you can tell me I win as many times as you want, it won't mean a thing to me
was never trying to get one up over you to begin with
you are likewise mischaracterizing me as wanting for things that disinterest me

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It would have completely changed the topic. not continued with the conversation we were having. basically everything else I have said in this thread has been about covid besides the throwaway trump comment that I happened to use trudeau as an example for.
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it would have brought you back on topic with the thread after you decided to go on about how your feelings about what does or doesn't make Trudeau politically successful is stronger evidence than his reelection

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I'm not intentionally bringing him up. you are the one who's demanding i bring up examples of him acting specific ways. I let that go already.
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Could you quote my most recent "demand" of you bringing up examples?

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the only reason race was brought up is because the scandal I brought up as an example (fine a poor example I concede that whatever, All I was saying was there was indeed a scandal as opposed to the situation with Obama which lacked a scandal) I wasn't at all trying to spark a discussion about race. and just because i didn't want to jump on your out of the blue points about race doesn't mean I dont care about racism. that's one hell of a suggestion.
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As stated in recent posts, have already been stressed out by treatment of First Nations with regards to Covid
what you consider "out of the blue" was continuing on with my previous post from this past weekend

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Like I said I'm not calling him a hypocrite and I'm not holding it against him either. you are being openly dishonest.
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Twice now you have accused me of dishonesty on this basis
are you going to provide a quote of what you are interpreting that way?
Or are you expecting me to defend myself based on what appears in your mind?

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And I publicly accepted that i dont care so fine it's a crappy counter example. you win.

I'm saying I concede the point to you. that's what you win means.
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Again, you being factually wrong was never a competition, it was a correction made to your post
honestly still have no idea why you came back with the "salt" comment in response

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my post was a response to Dylan's observation about trump that wasn't meant to go anywhere.
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and my post was a simple factual correction that wasn't meant to go anywhere

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I've posted plenty of relevant stuff in this thread too.




then will have to ask you to forgive me for not having observed your presence here prior to this week
since that time you replied to my Finland meme about zombies a few weeks back
9 times out of 10, just quick scroll through basically everyone's posts except morrow

10th time, see if anything interesting is in recent discussion to ask about



But Tantrika i wasnt trying to have a conversation about Trudeau. so i had no interest in "bringing that back on topic." As you can see i gave up on defending the Trudeau stuff many, many posts back because i dont care about it.



lol there you go again making me walk on linguistic egg shells. cut people some slack instead of nit picking. fine you didnt "demand" but you implied i havent come up with enough examples for you as if you wanted me to keep going through examples when i dont care.


Tantrika its fine for you to bring up racial issues that dont relate to our conversation. but im not obligated to address them and im not anracist or someone who doesnt care about racism because i dont want to have your Trudeau discussion.


you said i was trying to call Trudeau a hyopcrite. I never did and that was nevee the point. thats dishonesty. when i suggested that you doubled down and said i love calling him a hypocrite.


Lol it wasnt salt it was amusement that you made this such an issue. I was saying "you win" bevause you were being silly and I was demonstrating that.


Since my zombie comment i have acctually tlgiven sources talking about the prevelance of asypmtomatic carriers and commented on koods' post about covid and smoking, ive said plenty on topic and it doesnt matter if its not enough for you.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 3
    #26626536 - 04/25/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I never saw Trump suggest the use of disinfectants internally or otherwise to the general public.

I saw Trump suggest to a practitioner the expirimentation and exploration of bleach in a non-conventional sense but nowhere did he suggest for the general public to practice this.




So why the fuck did he bring it up?

Good lord. Just admit the man is a fucking moron. He’s so stupid he doesn’t have the intellectual capabilities to understand how stupid he is.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 5
    #26626539 - 04/25/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Trump stared at an eclipse

Claimed climate change was a chinese hoax

Windmills cause cancer

Suggested raking forests to prevent forest fires

Suggested nuking a hurricane

Thought no one would notice that he edited a predictive weather graph with a sharpie

The body is a battery

Tweeted "Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!"

Said "Take it, I really think they should take it" and "I would take it" about a seperate treatment that is now proving to kill more then it helps



Only a partisan troll (not naming names) would pretend that the man doesn't have the scientific understanding of a 7 year old and zero understanding of the repercussions of what he says.

He doesn't troll the media, he desperately wants them to accept him and say nice things about him, at the same time he wants his supporters to believe they're all fake because they're critical of his idiocy

His supporters are the exact people ignorant and uneducated enough to go try these things because their dear leader suggested they might help


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
    #26626544 - 04/25/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I never saw Trump suggest the use of disinfectants internally or otherwise to the general public.

I saw Trump suggest to a practitioner the expirimentation and exploration of bleach in a non-conventional sense but nowhere did he suggest for the general public to practice this.




So why the fuck did he bring it up?

Good lord. Just admit the man is a fucking moron. He’s so stupid he doesn’t have the intellectual capabilities to understand how stupid he is.




I know he’s just trying to be more moderate in his view of the situation regarding the president .  I admit his esteemed ability in so far as it is relevant., but do not erroneously think that it compensates for the glaringly obvious stark naked truth about his unwholesome and unskillful performances on internationally broadcasted briefings addressing the world in a state of national emergency during a pandemic .

I don’t think he realizes what he’s become by doing so. And I don’t think you realize what you’ve become by defending such behavior.

It really is not the kind of thing to try and defend at all, it was plain stupid.  Stupid is stupid. Plus it was misleading and harmful, and so many other things.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 1
    #26626549 - 04/25/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, just ignore him...


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