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PE Monotub How to Proceed??
    #26625763 - 04/24/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Howdy y'all,



We started a PE monotub. This is our second grow, and we have gotten to the fruiting stage again. It's been about 2 weeks since our first fruit pinned. I'm looking for any advice or comments that y'all can give on how it looks currently. We are worried about several things.



We managed to get our substrate to fruit, but the first flush fruits are coming in very slowly. We have plucked about 80 small mutants/blobs from the sub, and about 15-20 small fruits. There are lots of dark blobs that look like they could become fruits, but they mostly are stagnant. Should we wait on them to see if they abort/grow before we pluck them? My roommates are a little more trigger happy than I am with the plucking. We are skeptical about putting more bubble wrap on as a casing layer, since the primordia already there are incredibly fragile. We live in a very dry place, so we had been watering it maybe 4-5 times a day. Sub was always dry when I watered it again. We've been trying to maximize evaporation, but the sub has been slowly bluing ever since we put into fruiting conditions, so I think something needs to change. The two polyfill holes at either end of the tub were removed. Does that seem like too much FAE? Does it seem like maybe we don't have enough water? The blue is starting to worry me because it is pretty intense (flash was on in the photos). The tub still passes the smell test and the blue parts pass the Q-tip test, so I hope that this doesn't look like a bad contam to y'all.



We put a humidifier in the same closet about 3 days ago since we've seen that on other PE grows. I will keep it in there unless you advise otherwise. Should I replace the polyfill and manually fan it more often? Should we abandon this flush and dunk it? Any advice to make a more even pinset on the next flush? It took so much research and work to get it to this stage that I just want to make sure we don't screw everything up when the light's at the end of the tunnel.



I'm really glad that resources like this exist, because without them I wouldn't have been able to get where I am today. You're doing the Lord's work, friends.



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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: ticklytaco]
    #26625780 - 04/24/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I am just about finishing my 1st flush on a  PE mono and its going great. At 12 days I added a little casing and the next day it started to pin. Since you have pins, just spray the walls a bit to keep up humidity and after a week, depending on your phenotype, they could look like this...

I also opened the top to let out humidity a few times. You can tell when you open it. If it smells a big muggy, let it air out. I also closely sprayed the spot that weren't pinning and put a small electric over the substrate through the lid for a few minutes a couple times.



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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: ticklytaco]
    #26625783 - 04/24/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

when you say "water it" are you just pouring water in or misting? the surface looks really dry, needs misting.

check this thread out:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: seefar]
    #26625789 - 04/24/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Casing is definitely recommended.  You can use pasteurized jiffy mix... check this thread out

PE... by tedsdead

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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: trubblesome]
    #26625791 - 04/24/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We've been using a humidifier on a lower setting pretty constantly and spraying it a couple times a day.


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: ticklytaco]
    #26625806 - 04/24/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The casing is for fruit development.  It keeps blobbing from happening.. check out that link

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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: ticklytaco]
    #26625862 - 04/24/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:hi: Y'all. You guys are WAY over thinking this project of yours. Why do you have a humidifier going in a closet when you are using a tub which is designed to keep the moisture in play? I lived in Phoenix AZ and never had a need for a ghumidifier for my shroomies.

Why are you plucking pinheads from your substrate? Once you see a pinhead or two -just stop! Don't mist, don't water, don't do squat! Your mushrooms have obviously found an environment in which they want to live and reproduce so why get in their way? Don't be a cock blocker lol. I'm not trying to be an A-hole about this but I have decades of growing experience and am only trying to help.

If you see pinheads, taking off the lid of your tub will help with the air exchange but really is not that necessary with cubies. Cubies are very tolerant of CO2.


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26625878 - 04/24/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Follow Tedsdead tips for PE and you can't go wrong


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: pureshrooming]
    #26625985 - 04/25/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

hehehe... thanks guys:grin:


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: TedsDead]
    #26626029 - 04/25/20 01:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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TedsDead said:
hehehe... thanks guys:grin:




dude it's so thorough and 100% responsible for the amazing tubs I've had since reading it like 50 times over


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: pureshrooming]
    #26626035 - 04/25/20 01:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

ooh, those are nice!:cool:  :rockon::rockon::rockon:   

scarabeus, I disagree with that misting advice.  mist when needed.  we all have different environments that our tubs are in.  I mist mine with half grown fruits even with normies


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: TedsDead]
    #26626080 - 04/25/20 01:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I guess it all falls under the title of art and science.. Growing shrooms is part science and part art. What works for one may not work for somebody else in different circumstances or environments.

All I can do is offer my own experience with growing and hope people build on it. -Peace yo...


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26626091 - 04/25/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

also, curious... in the OP what is the Q-tip test?


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26626106 - 04/25/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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I guess it all falls under the title of art and science.. Growing shrooms is part science and part art. What works for one may not work for somebody else in different circumstances or environments.

All I can do is offer my own experience with growing and hope people build on it. -Peace yo...




Have you grown modern PE?  They really do demand higher FAE (I feel like that’s due to the amount of time they take to pin—contam reduction and the shear density of the fruits) and a casing to produce normal non blob fruits consistently.  Not disagreeing with anything you’ve said (except the no misting—especially with peat based casings... they dry out incredibly fast), just curious.

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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: TedsDead]
    #26626112 - 04/25/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have no idea. I didn't know what you were talking about until I re visted the OP. This is why I always tell newbies to stick with the info o n THIS site; here we all speak the same language (more or less lol) .


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: fahtster]
    #26626124 - 04/25/20 02:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

PE? Nope. When it comes to penis shrooms I always figured that it is more trouble than it is worth. Why grow more potent shrooms when I can get the same effect from eating more less potent shrooms.  I disd experiment with P's somewhere in the past but never 'got on' with it.

I don't want to sound like some A hole. I'm just giving my honest opinion; there are very good and scientifically valid reasons to explore the PE growing experience. As a scientifically minded soul, I am very curious and interested in other growers triumphs and failures!~


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26626141 - 04/25/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Word.  I don’t think you sound like an A-hole... I think you think you sound like an A-hole :lol:  don’t pick your pins before they mature into fruits and give more FAE is pretty solid advice. 

Oh man, there’s nothing like giving your buddy some PE and they come back and say, “those are the best shrooms I’ve ever had.. next time warn me though”. And really, if you follow the right strategy, it’s no trouble at all.  Takes longer, sure, but PE are the heaviest producers I’ve encountered.  BUT I do understand your reasoning for just growing regular cubes.. makes sense.  The thought has definitely crossed my mind as well, but then I ate some PE.  They’ll always be a regular cube growing along PE in my grow area.. but it really is something to be experienced.

And all this isn’t to say you can’t find a culture of PE strength regular cubes.. most definitely are.  PE just seems to have more on average.  Alright.. I won’t type PE anymore.. even I’m sick of reading it :lol:

Quarantine boredom is the worst boredom :facepalm:

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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: fahtster]
    #26626180 - 04/25/20 03:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That’s a super bad case of blobbing.

I only had it like that once and it sucked. Instead of actual blobs it formed like a shell over the surface and eventually I just got a few decent sized shrooms that grew near the edges.

PE really isn’t any harder than other kinds, it just absolutely needs that jiffy on top.

And some extra time. But all my biggest yields have been off PE so between that and the potency they’re well worth waiting an extra week.


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Re: PE Monotub How to Proceed?? [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26626587 - 04/25/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There was a cool band from New Zealand called Art vs Science about 10 years ago.


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