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OfflineSurf707
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First flush question. Why do they look like this?
    #26624881 - 04/24/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys. This is the best tub I’ve got so far for my first flush. I’ve been trying to see if the veils been broken and apparently it has. (Put my camera underneath there and saw). My question is why do the smaller mushrooms have their veil already broken? These ones are incredibly small. I didn’t know if it is because if something I did or didn’t do, or just how they’re growing. As always, thanks for any help.



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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: Surf707]
    #26624901 - 04/24/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well first may I note that it looks dry in there and the substrate is not fully colonized which may also be another issue however it may also be genetics causing dwarfism? Either way I'm watching this thread.


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: mushhead]
    #26625009 - 04/24/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So looking at it in the pic, it does look dry. I use a flashlight to make sure I have little water droplets. I used a pseudo casing and before I actually read into it, I did the ten day colonization before throwing into fruiting and it still is patchy. So with this being said, even if I throw right into fruiting it should become 100% colonized before developing mushrooms? So I imagine that there is one issue there, and in regards to the dwarfism, something pertaining to genetics.


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: mushhead]
    #26625018 - 04/24/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Things looks little dry
Never used tape so don’t know how that works. Maybe letting too much FAE?
Is this from multi-spore, clone, isolate?  Your noob registry date would suggest MS.
Not hating at all.  Just an observation.  Keep at it, don’t give up, keep on trying.

Fan in the room?  Top holes taped also?
Theyre not stretching for fresh air despite the substrate level being well below the lower hole level.  This is why I question if it’s too much air drying out the fruits.

Pick that flush clean and pray for a better second flush.


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: Surf707]
    #26625029 - 04/24/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Surf707 said:
So looking at it in the pic, it does look dry. I use a flashlight to make sure I have little water droplets. I used a pseudo casing and before I actually read into it, I did the ten day colonization before throwing into fruiting and it still is patchy. So with this being said, even if I throw right into fruiting it should become 100% colonized before developing mushrooms? So I imagine that there is one issue there, and in regards to the dwarfism, something pertaining to genetics.



Perhaps the colonization being so premature a contamination is causing the erratic growth? Not saying there is a contam, just speculating.

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Fan in the room?  Top holes taped also?
Theyre not stretching for fresh air despite the substrate level being well below the lower hole level.  This is why I question if it’s too much air drying out the fruits.





I would think that the size of the holes on the monotub could come into question in combination to the tape. Polyfil honestly never does me wrong ever.


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: Jabensis]
    #26625033 - 04/24/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Top holes are taped but I put in 5 mini holes on each top side to allow some flow since it was getting way too humid in there. I got these clones off ig and have had nothing but problems leading up to this point. I’m religiously checking with my flash light at least 5-6 times a day to figure out each tubs schedule for misting given its location. It’s weird how a tub 8 feet away could be dryer than another.

No fan, but I do have a heater maintaining 75 degrees, however it’s blowing away from the tubs. I’m waiting to see how the others turn out. I pray that all 13 tubs aren’t like this.


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: Surf707]
    #26625047 - 04/24/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Surf707 said:
Top holes are taped but I put in 5 mini holes on each top side to allow some flow since it was getting way too humid in there. I got these clones off ig and have had nothing but problems leading up to this point. I’m religiously checking with my flash light at least 5-6 times a day to figure out each tubs schedule for misting given its location. It’s weird how a tub 8 feet away could be dryer than another.

No fan, but I do have a heater maintaining 75 degrees, however it’s blowing away from the tubs. I’m waiting to see how the others turn out. I pray that all 13 tubs aren’t like this.




Too much FAE mate I would stuff your monotub holes with polyfil instead of taping over next time, this way you can control the amount of air thats circulated by how thickly packed the polyfil is.


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: mushhead]
    #26625059 - 04/24/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’ve got 40 lbs of the stuff in the closest. I originally used that before the tape, but the ease of ‘set and forget’ was appealing. I’m gonna take a tub and start trying to find the right amount of stuffing to dial it in. Appreciate the help. Now to see what happens with these other tubs...


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: Surf707]
    #26625072 - 04/24/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Keep this updated I really would love to see the outcome.


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: mushhead]
    #26625112 - 04/24/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

There’s about half of it left, but they were too small to take down. So far:


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: Surf707] * 1
    #26625218 - 04/24/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Low spawn ratio and dry substrate. My guess..


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26625709 - 04/24/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

7 quarts of spawn to a brick of coir and 2 quarts verm. With 4 quarts water to hydrate. This is one of the tubs I mixed two different strains together by mistake. Not sure if these things were the result. The other tub I mixed together is displaying the same characteristics. The other tubs seems to be looking like normal growth


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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: Surf707]
    #26625718 - 04/24/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

it should be like 14 quarts water to a brick of coir no? then some more for verm? 3.25L water per brick?

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Re: First flush question. Why do they look like this? [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26625729 - 04/24/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

14 qt would make a soup. 4-5 qt for a brick o coir and 2 qt verm. That’s the cubestry standard


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