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Are these primordia/pins/knots or contamination? anyone? please help
    #26624358 - 04/24/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hi guys,

I inoculated 5 one pound rye berry grain bags a month and 3 days ago. I mixed the bags almost 2 weeks ago. I noticed the other day that I had a few little blue spots about the size of a ballpoint pen scattered randomly throughout the bags. I initially thought it was mold and then upon further research, I believe it was just bruising. I was handing the bags at least twice a day to look for growth and contamination, had just mixed the bag, and I was having too big of swings in temperature which was causing condensation to form and then go away. I've also read that dry grain can lead to bruising, which someone told me that my grain looks dry. I left my bags alone and haven't moved them and got the temperature more stable with less visible condensation. Since making those adjustments, the little blue spots have gone away.

Anyways, I was checking my bags this morning and noticed one bag has little white blobs that almost look like pins to me. Are these pins, knots, primordia, etc. or infection? I still cannot figure out how to get a higher quality image uploaded to this site, but I can send a higher quality image if someone needs it.







If these are pins, knots, primordia, etc. can this bag still be spawned to a monotub or will the pins cause decay and problems to a colonizing substrate? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: aspiringmyconoob]
    #26624361 - 04/24/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like a Yeast Infection. Can u get a close-up macro shot by chance?


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26624371 - 04/24/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Gosh I really hope not, that would be devastating. I will attempt to get a better pic, be back shortly. Thanks for the quick response.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26624427 - 04/24/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This is about the best I can currently do, I will continue to attempt to get a better image.



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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: aspiringmyconoob] * 1
    #26624606 - 04/24/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It has got a bit of a yeasty look to it but I think this is just starting to pin. How long has it been fully colonised?


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: aspiringmyconoob]
    #26624612 - 04/24/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That is a little better. There is some white pre-pin looking dots near the bottom left. It could be pinning. Hard to say. Id say wait a week and see what happens.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: Unknown error]
    #26624642 - 04/24/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I sure hope it's just pinning. There are only a few spots on top of the grain that isn't fully colonized, its probably like 98% colonized. It's probably been that way for a week, I was going to spawn them to a monotub in a few days.

If it is pinning or yeast, can this bag still be spawned to a monotub with other colonized grain? Thank you very much for your reply.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26624650 - 04/24/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok very good, I appreciate it. This bag has been like 98% colonized for a week or more, only a few grains/places on top of the grain aren't fully colonized. If it is pinning, will allowing the bag to continue to colonize for another week cause any adverse affects if more pins form and mature? My goal is to spawn this to a monotub within the next few days. If those are pins, can I still spawn it to a monotub or will the pins mess with the colonizing substrate? Is there anything I should be looking for to differentiate it between yeast or pins? I don't smell any weird smells through the filter patch thankfully. Thanks again for your help and information.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: aspiringmyconoob]
    #26624687 - 04/24/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Spawning with yeast contamination can be done but I think they are pins anyway.
Maybe your grains are a bit dry at the top is why it’s been like that for a week, it should of colonised that by now.
Maybe post some pics of the uncolonised bit.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: Unknown error] * 1
    #26626612 - 04/25/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Alright so I definitely think that those are pins, because it's really starting to consolidate and the mycelium is looking thicker. I won't be able to spawn these to a monotub until monday. Is it ok to spawn colonized grain to a substrate in a monotub after the grain has been showing pins? Here are some pics I took this morning.







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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: aspiringmyconoob]
    #26626669 - 04/25/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ya know, Im not sure on that. It might be OK if you are gentle breaking up the jars spawn maybe ???


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26626710 - 04/25/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I appreciate the help, I really really hope it's ok to spawn. I have made many  stupid newbie mistakes and I'm definitely learning from them.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: aspiringmyconoob] * 1
    #26626721 - 04/25/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Those looks like pins to me..


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: mushhead]
    #26626752 - 04/25/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you for responding. Can I spawn the grain to a monotub even though it's pinning already? I unfortunately cannot spawn the monotub till Monday. Any help or information is greatly appreciated.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: aspiringmyconoob]
    #26626769 - 04/25/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah spawn them


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: aspiringmyconoob]
    #26626801 - 04/25/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Definitely spawn this bag... its started to get thicker mycelium.

looks like pins are forming.

It should be fine once you spawn them to substrate.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: Unknown error]
    #26626807 - 04/25/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you very much, I will definitely spawn them ASAP.


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Re: Are these pins or contamination? please help [Re: Jellatinous]
    #26626829 - 04/25/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome, will do. Thank you very much for your time and information.


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