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Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles
    #26622674 - 04/23/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've done a few searches and found nothing on the subject, so I apologize if this has been discussed before.

I'm interested in experimenting with mixing teas/water extractions. My thoughts are if I have some leftover mushroom tea, I could put in a jar and keep frozen for long term storage, to be thawed later for usage. But could I keep adding newer subsequent teas to this storage container? Would this in effect average out potencies over the long term?

For example:
Fruit out Strain A and after testing let's say it's potency is 5 out of 10.
Extract actives into a tea solution and store in freezer.
Fruit out Strain B and after testing let's say it's potency is an 8 out of 10.
Extract actives into a tea solution and mix in with tea already in freezer.
Fruit out Strain C and after testing, it's a potency of 2 out of 10.
Extract actives into a tea and mix with the storage tea.

Would this average out the potency to 5.33333... out of 10?


If this does indeed work, have you heard of anyone who keeps an infinity bottle of tea?

An infinity bottle is something I learned about from my whiskey interests. Basically, you save a shot of every new bottle of booze you drink, and dump it into an empty bottle. Once the bottle fills up, you take a shot for yourself before adding another fresh shot. In effect, you'll always have a taste of every single booze you've ever added, forever and ever.

Here's a random google result about infinity bottles, if you're interested.


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: Sprores]
    #26623695 - 04/24/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’m just trying to get to grips, myself, with this! But I am not mixing flushes, rather I make a tea from almost the entire flush, after drying some to find out water content. I pour the tea into ice cube trays, then seal them individually.

What you don’t seem to mention is the volume of each leftover tea you putin the infinity bottle. My calcs would have given your 3 mixtures closer to 4 out of 10 not 5.6 out of 10!

Could also be wrong here, but not sure how healthy it is for the tea if you keep on thawing it out and re-freezing, which you would need to do in order to mix the new tea you put in.

Let’s wait to see what the experts add.....

Good luck
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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26624408 - 04/24/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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DJ Ed said:
I’m just trying to get to grips, myself, with this! But I am not mixing flushes, rather I make a tea from almost the entire flush, after drying some to find out water content. I pour the tea into ice cube trays, then seal them individually.

What you don’t seem to mention is the volume of each leftover tea you putin the infinity bottle. My calcs would have given your 3 mixtures closer to 4 out of 10 not 5.6 out of 10!

Could also be wrong here, but not sure how healthy it is for the tea if you keep on thawing it out and re-freezing, which you would need to do in order to mix the new tea you put in.

Let’s wait to see what the experts add.....

Good luck
DJ Ed




Ah yes, good point. I didn't consider the constant thawing and re-freezing. That could be the nail in the coffin of this idea.

For my average calculation i just did (5+8+2)/3, but that just equals 5, so I'm not sure where I got my original number either lol


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: Sprores]
    #26624443 - 04/24/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hahaha you’ve just described my typical day lol. But the idea is still sound. Do not thaw out when you add extra, just add the new leftover tea and re-freeze straightaway. Keep doing this ad Infinitum. When ready to try some, THEN thaw it out. But before you pour some out, give it a good old shake.

There you go, dude, problem solved :thumbup:


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26624466 - 04/24/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Hahaha you’ve just described my typical day lol. But the idea is still sound. Do not thaw out when you add extra, just add the new leftover tea and re-freeze straightaway. Keep doing this ad Infinitum. When ready to try some, THEN thaw it out. But before you pour some out, give it a good old shake.

There you go, dude, problem solved :thumbup:




I like it, but that would mean I'd have to down the whole bottle (or get friends together)...hmm, maybe the way around that would be to follow your strategy; just add liquid on top of frozen. but then chip it all up and then thats when you shake it. when it comes time to try some, just remove a bit of mixed up frozen bits and then thaw that sample.


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: Sprores]
    #26624476 - 04/24/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No dude, hopefully, PrimalSoup will chip in, but he was the one that gave me the idea for freezing tea. But he pours his into a plastic bottle then freezes. When he wants some, he thaws the bottle, has his dose, then re-freezes the bottle. Seemingly without any potency loss problems :thumbup:


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26624623 - 04/24/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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DJ Ed said:
No dude, hopefully, PrimalSoup will chip in, but he was the one that gave me the idea for freezing tea. But he pours his into a plastic bottle then freezes. When he wants some, he thaws the bottle, has his dose, then re-freezes the bottle. Seemingly without any potency loss problems :thumbup:




Oh, nice. That would be some sweet info.


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: Sprores]
    #26624917 - 04/24/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Sprores said:
I'm interested in experimenting with mixing teas/water extractions. My thoughts are if I have some leftover mushroom tea, I could put in a jar and keep frozen for long term storage, to be thawed later for usage. But could I keep adding newer subsequent teas to this storage container? Would this in effect average out potencies over the long term?






You don't have to mix it in when freezing - I just add the liquid from leftover to existing frozen bottles and mark it on the label.  Eventually it all gets thawed out and mixed together before consumption.  Yeah it averages out the potencies but for me it's mostly the same genetics going in.

What DJ Ed says about potency not being affected is true but taste (if you care...) degrades over multiple thaw/refreeze cycles. :cookiemonster:

Looking this thread over though you have to thaw the whole bottle and shake it up well before serving because it separates into water and gloppy stuff (that I assume contains the actives) when frozen. :shrug:  It'd be an interesting experiment to try each of those parts individually since it might be a way to concentrate the tea further...


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26625140 - 04/24/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Sprores said:
I'm interested in experimenting with mixing teas/water extractions. My thoughts are if I have some leftover mushroom tea, I could put in a jar and keep frozen for long term storage, to be thawed later for usage. But could I keep adding newer subsequent teas to this storage container? Would this in effect average out potencies over the long term?






You don't have to mix it in when freezing - I just add the liquid from leftover to existing frozen bottles and mark it on the label.  Eventually it all gets thawed out and mixed together before consumption.  Yeah it averages out the potencies but for me it's mostly the same genetics going in.

What DJ Ed says about potency not being affected is true but taste (if you care...) degrades over multiple thaw/refreeze cycles. :cookiemonster:

Looking this thread over though you have to thaw the whole bottle and shake it up well before serving because it separates into water and gloppy stuff (that I assume contains the actives) when frozen. :shrug:  It'd be an interesting experiment to try each of those parts individually since it might be a way to concentrate the tea further...




That's great info, thanks! I'll start experimenting and let you all know if any interesting data crops up.


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: Sprores]
    #26625691 - 04/24/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:havesomescience: :goodday:


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Re: Combining Teas and Infinity Bottles [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26626014 - 04/25/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Love your “science” smiley, PrimalSoup :awesome:


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