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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika]
    #26628808 - 04/26/20 04:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Tantrika said:
but in a bit grosser detail -- intersex individuals typically end up with surgical intervention when they are an infant
rather than life-long having both
and frequently what the doctor decided to mold their genitals into ends up not being the sex they identify as or relate to




I don't think the sarcasm within my post was quite picked. I was refererring to the 'luxury of being gay' that had previously been mentioned, eg 'how easy would it be to be both genders and be able to have anyone you want.. Probably a shit joke. They can't all be winners. :shrug:
In regards to what you said however, it's a little different to how you portray it. The reality is that most people that are born hermaphrodite only have half formed sexual organs for one gender but fully formed for another. This is normally the determining factor for gender choice of the parents. That's facts. Personally i don't believe in gender choice by the parents for hermaphrodites as infants in the same way that i don't believe in circumcision or even abortion unless someone was raped.. I also don't believe in allowing individuals to make physical changes to their bodies to correspond with gender they identify with beyond the age of 21. As a bonus, i live in Australia where the drinking age is 18, but i also don't believe it should be until you're 21.

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Tantrika said:
nah, that does not make you radical
radical feminists want things like the extermination or enslavement of men (and trans women) from society
you're just implying that you partially agree with who they should target if they go for it
not actively egging them on, unless you take to misgendering me, at which point you are not radical
but you are endorsing enough of their worldview to help embolden them
:cheers:




I don't agree with enslavement of anyone. I have seen your posts around a bit. You're clearly very intelligent and vocal about what you believe. In todays society many people are burned for doing just that. I respect you for standing up for what you believe. I like to think that you and i could stand together and fight against people that propose enslavement whether it be feminists or any other extreamist group. I will not refer to you a female when i know you are a male though. I will do my best however and respect your wishes and use non gender terms like 'them' and 'they'. I don't think you and i will agree upon this particular matter, i think this is a reasonable compromise.

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fully recognize you get the luxury of feeling this way,
just know that if you publicly identify me as gender other than my preferred gender
will do the same for you, and have a much broader repertoire to draw upon
and no matter what terms come up in my use, it can't be flaming with me doing it if it isn't flaming when you do it





There's really no need for hurtful threats. I was trying to express a difference in opinion but be peaceful at the same time. :peace:


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta]
    #26628820 - 04/26/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmm.


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Babylon]
    #26628825 - 04/26/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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They were saying there were too many people back in the 1600's.

It's nonsense.

Billions and billions more it will take until we've birthed enough scientists that one of them solves the long distance space flight, short life problem.

Then we ride.





There were too many people in the 1600's.  We can trace a lot of the problems with global warming and environmental degredation back that far.




That's nonsense. That's absolute utter nonsense.

I'm calling bullshit. Here's the card. Here is the bullshit card.

:begone:

The population around 1600 was between 500 and 600 million people.

No one drove cars. No industry that used more than a hot wood or coal fire.

No modern chemicals etc.

Enormous buffalo herds in the millions still roamed North America.



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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: susurrador] * 2
    #26628838 - 04/26/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

THIS THREAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT LOVE. WHY THE FUCKS CAN'T ALL YOU GOD DAMN WHATEVERSEXUALS STOP YOUR BICKERING AND JUST LOVE PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF THEIR SEXUALITY, AND IRREGARDLESS OF OTHER'S GENDER. WHO CARES! At the end we all end up as worm poop so why don't we just luv everyone anyway, because hate is exhausting! :heart:
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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta]
    #26628848 - 04/26/20 04:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Magenta said:
Quote:

Tantrika said:
but in a bit grosser detail -- intersex individuals typically end up with surgical intervention when they are an infant
rather than life-long having both
and frequently what the doctor decided to mold their genitals into ends up not being the sex they identify as or relate to




I don't think the sarcasm within my post was quite picked. I was refererring to the 'luxury of being gay' that had previously been mentioned, eg 'how easy would it be to be both genders and be able to have anyone you want.. Probably a shit joke. They can't all be winners. :shrug:
In regards to what you said however, it's a little different to how you portray it. The reality is that most people that are born hermaphrodite only have half formed sexual organs for one gender but fully formed for another. This is normally the determining factor for gender choice of the parents. That's facts. Personally i don't believe in gender choice by the parents for hermaphrodites as infants in the same way that i don't believe in circumcision or even abortion unless someone was raped.. I also don't believe in allowing individuals to make physical changes to their bodies to correspond with gender they identify with beyond the age of 21. As a bonus, i live in Australia where the drinking age is 18, but i also don't believe it should be until you're 21.
...




For clarification, you  said here "beyond the age of 21" but then refer to drinking age
did you mean to say "before the age of 21"
or are you advocating some sort of view of people physically transitioning in childhood only
which would be quite the opposite of my expected position of most people

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Magenta said:
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I don't agree with enslavement of anyone. I have seen your posts around a bit. You're clearly very intelligent and vocal about what you believe. In todays society many people are burned for doing just that. I respect you for standing up for what you believe. I like to think that you and i could stand together and fight against people that propose enslavement whether it be feminists or any other extreamist group. I will not refer to you a female when i know you are a male though. I will do my best however and respect your wishes and use non gender terms like 'them' and 'they'. I don't think you and i will agree upon this particular matter, i think this is a reasonable compromise.
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"them" and "they" are not my pronouns
this is not a reasonable compromise, this is you deciding to identify me as other than the woman I am
please do not proceed with this idea -- your very proposition of doing so could be construed as a threat

given you go on to say:
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Magenta said:
There's really no need for hurtful threats. I was trying to express a difference in opinion but be peaceful at the same time. :peace:




which leaves me only to believe that you feel the prospect of misgendering to be hurtful or threatening when directed at you
but acceptable and a compromise when you direct it at someone else

hope you can come to comprehend that my identity is not a matter of your opinion :heart:


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta]
    #26628873 - 04/26/20 04:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Magenta said:
THIS THREAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT LOVE. WHY THE FUCKS CAN'T ALL YOU GOD DAMN WHATEVERSEXUALS STOP YOUR BICKERING AND JUST LOVE PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF THEIR SEXUALITY, AND IRREGARDLESS OF OTHER'S GENDER. WHO CARES! At the end we all end up as worm poop so why don't we just luv everyone anyway, because hate is exhausting! :heart:
:manofapproval:




So you just wanted to post a thread where everyone just agrees with you?

And if it's all about love and everyone... why is the title of the thread not Everyone is Cool, Yo?

And why are you blowing your top if you're just bursting with love?

And who is hating? People who disagree or want to discuss the topic are haters? If you were coming from a place of love and not a place of needing your beliefs reinforced to feel good about yourself, you'd be patient and compassionate in explaining and participating in a conversation with people who don't see it the same way.

I don't really need answers, they're just food for thought.

I recommend a journal entry if you don't want discourse.

These are real words from a place of love. I love my fellow man enough to say true words even if they don't jive with what you want to hear.


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika] * 2
    #26628894 - 04/26/20 05:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Tantrika said:
For clarification, you  said here "beyond the age of 21" but then refer to drinking age
did you mean to say "before the age of 21"
or are you advocating some sort of view of people physically transitioning in childhood only
which would be quite the opposite of my expected position of most people




18 is the drinking age in Australia, i don't agree. People shouldn't be able to legally drink until at least 21 and people shouldn't be able to modify their bodies until they're 21.

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Tantrika said:
"them" and "they" are not my pronouns
this is not a reasonable compromise, this is you deciding to identify me as other than the woman I am
please do not proceed with this idea -- your very proposition of doing so could be construed as a threat




If you don't consider that a compromise, then please by all means call me 'they' 'them' ect as well, as you know my gender as well as i know yours, i don't think it's a big issue.


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Tantrika said:

which leaves me only to believe that you feel the prospect of misgendering to be hurtful or threatening when directed at you
but acceptable and a compromise when you direct it at someone else

hope you can come to comprehend that my identity is not a matter of your opinion :heart:




I made a thread praising homosexuality and you derailed it to express your insecurities about identifying with being a lesbian when you were born with a penis.
Clearly these 'extremist' on the lesbian website you venture onto have hurt you, so take your shit out on me just because i disagree with your philosophy. I may disagree with you but i ain't here to cause shit and be hurtful. Leave me alone or i will report you for harassment.


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta]
    #26628905 - 04/26/20 05:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Magenta said:
Quote:

Tantrika said:
For clarification, you  said here "beyond the age of 21" but then refer to drinking age
did you mean to say "before the age of 21"
or are you advocating some sort of view of people physically transitioning in childhood only
which would be quite the opposite of my expected position of most people




18 is the drinking age in Australia, i don't agree. People shouldn't be able to legally drink until at least 21 and people shouldn't be able to modify their bodies until they're 21.
...




Thank you for clarifying,
the opposite is a disagreeable position to me
but wanted to make sure what you were advocating

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Magenta said:
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If you don't consider that a compromise, then please by all means call me 'they' 'them' ect as well, as you know my gender as well as i know yours, i don't think it's a big issue.
...




If you get to choose the pronouns you plan to use for me
then it is only fair for me to choose the pronouns to use for you

telling me you are going to call me something, and then telling me what you feel is appropriate for me to call you is obviously not balanced

don't see how fair and equal treatment is a big issue

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Magenta said:
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I made a thread praising homosexuality and you derailed it to express your insecurities about identifying with being a lesbian when you were born with a penis.
Clearly these 'extremist' on the lesbian website you venture onto have hurt you, so take your shit out on me just because i disagree with your philosophy. I may disagree with you but i ain't here to cause shit and be hurtful. Leave me alone or i will report you for harassment.




I made a post about how awesome it is to be part of the lesbian community
so I made a post praising homosexuality and the community for how it protects its members
another part of my inspiration was celebrating that another Shroomery member who is a lesbian is in a relationship with a trans woman, so there are feelings of support all around
from members of the community

Feel free to report me for harassment, will appeal the case on the basis of you being the one harassing me and the evidence will remain in this thread

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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika]
    #26628920 - 04/26/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Leave me alone Tantrika or go and make a thread about me in a relevant forum so we can discuss this personally. I've done nothing to wrong you. You're clearly filled with hate and grasping at threads to attack anyone under vulnerable conditions. I don't deserve this shit, i've been through enough crap already.


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta]
    #26628924 - 04/26/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Magenta said:
Leave me alone Tantrika or go and make a thread about me in a relevant forum so we can discuss this personally. I've done nothing to wrong you. You're clearly filled with hate and grasping at threads to attack anyone under vulnerable conditions. I don't deserve this shit, i've been through enough crap already.




my posts have recognized the underlined, and indicated that you will not have done anything wrong to me unless you misgender me
you have asked me for permission to misgender me and not received it, if you proceed to do so it will be flagged as harassment per your own thoughts on the matter
and if the staff fails to deal with it, will proceed to gender you as my feelings deem appropriate

Will no longer address you in this thread as long as you no longer address me
think this is a fair and reasonable compromise

Thanks again for opening a thread that allows me to celebrate how awesome transbian life can be :heart:


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika]
    #26628967 - 04/26/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks again for opening a thread that allows me to celebrate how awesome transbian life can be :heart:




Go ahead, you've made it sound like a miserable existence so far.


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta] * 1
    #26628971 - 04/26/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Magenta said:
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Tantrika said:
Thanks again for opening a thread that allows me to celebrate how awesome transbian life can be :heart:




Go ahead, you've made it sound like a miserable existence so far.




Nah, homosexuality is cool yo


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26628975 - 04/26/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lets get our anal canal on then!


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta] * 2
    #26628976 - 04/26/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I must admit i do like anal canal


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta]
    #26628980 - 04/26/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Lets get out anal canal on then!




I don't swing straight, sorry
ladies only

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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika]
    #26628985 - 04/26/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Shame because as a proud fem i'd luv to know about dat tight puss of yours :kiss:


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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta]
    #26628988 - 04/26/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika] * 2
    #26629036 - 04/26/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Homosexuality is LOVE!!  That's all that matters!

sussurador needs love!! 
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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: 1234go]
    #26629264 - 04/26/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #26629275 - 04/26/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:cantarguewiththat:

:excuseme:

:gaydance:


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