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Psyche delics said: I wish I could be gay it would be so much easier than dealing with women
I've felt this way a whole bunch of times in my life.
I get men. I understand the way they think.
I most often can't fathom women.
I have had this convo with my best friend multiple times.
Basically we figured we would get gay married for all the benefits and so society didn't see us as looser male reject divorcees
We would remain committed to sharing and building wealth and a life together like any married couple. I would help raise his daughter etc.
There would be no homo sex though.
Instead we would have sex with straight women on the side.
Best of both worlds.
You have a reason to keep the side piece at arms length since you are married to a man
You can convince the side piece she is special because you normally don't like woman but with her it is different
You can gain access to them as friends first since women arent threatened by gay men and then when they inevitibaly ask if you have ever considered being with a woman... bam you are in like flynn
Really a fullproof plan if you ask me.
Also the gays always have good drugs and more accepting of drug use*
*this is statistically true, vice did an article and drug use is much higher among gay men
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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika] 2
#26624598 - 04/24/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like to keep things simple personally. If you're born with a dick, you're a man. If you're born with a Vagina, you're a woman. If you've the luxury of being born with both, you're a hermaphrodite. If that makes me a radical then so be it. Personally i define you as a radical for even suggesting i call you a different gender than i identify you by. It doesn't really matter. I like what you have to say and am grateful for your beautiful existence.
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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta] 1
#26624639 - 04/24/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Magenta said: I like to keep things simple personally. If you're born with a dick, you're a man. If you're born with a Vagina, you're a woman. ...
Do you feel things should be "kept simple" despite science advancing?
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Magenta said: ...If you've the luxury of being born with both, you're a hermaphrodite. ...
you know, this came up on the trans board today regarding how the trans community minimizes intersex individuals so will let someone from that community provide a response to both the point of "luxury" and "hermaphrodite"

but in a bit grosser detail -- intersex individuals typically end up with surgical intervention when they are an infant rather than life-long having both and frequently what the doctor decided to mold their genitals into ends up not being the sex they identify as or relate to
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Magenta said: ...If that makes me a radical then so be it. Personally i define you as a radical for even suggesting i call you a different gender than i identify you by...
nah, that does not make you radical radical feminists want things like the extermination or enslavement of men (and trans women) from society you're just implying that you partially agree with who they should target if they go for it not actively egging them on, unless you take to misgendering me, at which point you are not radical but you are endorsing enough of their worldview to help embolden them

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Magenta said: ...It doesn't really matter. ...
fully recognize you get the luxury of feeling this way, just know that if you publicly identify me as gender other than my preferred gender will do the same for you, and have a much broader repertoire to draw upon and no matter what terms come up in my use, it can't be flaming with me doing it if it isn't flaming when you do it

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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26624656 - 04/24/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah there are too many made up words for me. DNA does not lie. You can do and believe whatever you want but the universe is absolute. Trust me I would love to be gay but I cant. Universe said nope. You will be straight. Now I am not saying should woulda coulda. I'm saying science. That being said It is still a free world and if you want to identify as opposite shit then by all means go for it. I have zero problems with what people are into(as long as it is not hurting others). I will not call you something you don't want to be called out of respect as well. So please dont take this as an attack.
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spirit_shadow said: ... Trust me I would love to be gay but I cant. ...
in my experience, the gay community refers to this as a closet-case, often they will be in a (frequently ineffectual or infrequent contact) straight relationship and has a 10-15 year timeline from making such comments to actually coming out
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If someone goes to prison, gender roles become scary.
I’m sure every inmate that commits rape in jail isn’t gay. They just have no other options.
But they are sorta choosing to be temp gay??
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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika]
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spirit_shadow said: ... Trust me I would love to be gay but I cant. ...
in my experience, the gay community refers to this as a closet-case, often they will be in a (frequently ineffectual or infrequent contact) straight relationship and has a 10-15 year timeline from making such comments to actually coming out
good luck
You misunderstand me. The concept is awesome. I get men more than women. But it is not a choice. I LOVE boobs and vagina. And I would personally punch anyone that told me I was a closet case because that is pushing their bullshit on me. Any gay person that uses mind games on straight men should get their nuts cut off.
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And vice versa
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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26624679 - 04/24/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So true Tantrika
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spirit_shadow said: ... Trust me I would love to be gay but I cant. ...
in my experience, the gay community refers to this as a closet-case, often they will be in a (frequently ineffectual or infrequent contact) straight relationship and has a 10-15 year timeline from making such comments to actually coming out
good luck
You misunderstand me. The concept is awesome. I get men more than women. But it is not a choice. I LOVE boobs and vagina. And I would personally punch anyone that told me I was a closet case because that is pushing their bullshit on me. Any gay person that uses mind games on straight men should get their nuts cut off.
hooooooooo boy...
Love you enough to give you warning you are playing into all types of stereotypes right now maybe learn to hang a little more loose
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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Magenta] 1
#26624686 - 04/24/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Being gay I can attest to the easiness of interactions. My instinct is always right when figuring out what another guy is thinking, interpreting what they want, and what they will do. It is very easy to cut through the bullshit and get what we want or move on quickly.
The idea of being straight fills me with dread as I don't know shit about women and the idea of not having easy on demand access to amazing sex terrifies me.
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I have ALWAYS known I was attracted to females. Men do not get me aroused in any way shape or form. My best friend is gay and I have learned much about the community. I probably know more than you you said you barely know the cliques. Trust me. I am nowhere close to gay. And I have zero issues with any part of the community. But once anyone be it gay straight or whatever starts using mind games to push eithers bullshit that is unacceptable.
Edit: there was a gay man that tried that closet case with a friend of mine at work who was straight and he got fired for sexual harassment. Because that is what it is.
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That’s just people being dense. You can definitely gut punch them if they can’t take a hint named No. that kind of shit bothers me to.
It’s just annoying. Men and women both have to deal with it Was at a party long ago when a gay man couldn’t take no for an answer - subtle or plain and obvious - so I left that shit show. Found out the next day he tried the same thing on another straight person there right after I left and got kicked in the shin , hard and then Asked to leave. Probably to do with being an ass, or drunk, or on drugs though.
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ohcrapitsnico said: Being gay I can attest to the easiness of interactions. My instinct is always right when figuring out what another guy is thinking, interpreting what they want, and what they will do. It is very easy to cut through the bullshit and get what we want or move on quickly.
The idea of being straight fills me with dread as I don't know shit about women and the idea of not having easy on demand access to amazing sex terrifies me.
This. I am SO jealous of this. Trust me if it really was a choice then I'd be with a man forever. I believe some people can be born bisexual but for most it's one way or the other. For me anyway it is not a choice. I have a primal instinct to go for only females.
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spirit_shadow said: I have ALWAYS known I was attracted to females. Men do not get me aroused in any way shape or form. My best friend is gay and I have learned much about the community. I probably know more than you you said you barely know the cliques. Trust me. I am nowhere close to gay. And I have zero issues with any part of the community. But once anyone be it gay straight or whatever starts using mind games to push eithers bullshit that is unacceptable.
Edit: there was a gay man that tried that closet case with a friend of mine at work who was straight and he got fired for sexual harassment. Because that is what it is.
it is as much or as little harassment as trying to make authoritative claims like "DNA doesn't lie" that have trans people question the authenticity of their gender identity
have at no point said you are a closet case, just that you have made statements that my gay friends have told me all through my life indicate closet cases and now 15 years later have been finding out their predicitions to be correct do not personally have any functioning gaydar with regards to men
love you too much to explicitly call you a closet case, so please don't take this as an attack it is just that any cis person who attempts to manipulate trans people in ways that cause questioning of their validity should have their twig and berries cut off or vice versa so they can learn what it is like to experience gender dysphoria not actually, would not wish gender dysphoria on a villian
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Re: Homosexuality is cool yo [Re: Tantrika]
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I know that sounds bad. I'm not trying to make it sound bad. But dna is dna. I dont have the dna of a dragon but do I want to be a dragon? Fuck yea I do.
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spirit_shadow said: I know that sounds bad. I'm not trying to make it sound bad. But dna is dna. I dont have the dna of a dragon but do I want to be a dragon? Fuck yea I do.
You do have the same DNA as all other closet cases tho and do you want to be a gay dude? enough to repeatedly state how much you'd love to spend your life with a man
seriously tho, as stated 10-15 year time line don't stress yourself out over it if you were born gay you will eventually accept yourself for it, lots of men even get married and have kids before they commit to a male life partner
I know if you are in the closet this probably sounds bad but mean it as genuine support and if you aren't in the closet, well, hopefully you will make peace with whatever has you stress out so much over the very prospect
Shroomery will accept you either way, even if you are not ready to accept yourself
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Spirit I know what your saying, but it really is more complex and complicated than that.
I used to think the same, but I was ignorant. Molecular bio and genetics blew me away.
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Yeah I really am not meaning to hurt anyone. For real <3 I'm just horrible at explaining how I feel. Like really horrible :/ I still love you tantrika and I really am meaning no hostility toward you.
Edit: I've said this years ago. If I was gay I would be with my best friend right now. I get him 100%. I love him dearly as a friend and a human. Just not sexually. It just doesn't do it for me.
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All good. I don’t ultimately know one way or another shit about anything, and partly because I want to know the truth, and because psychedelics, and life, and higher level courses in sciences have helped me see what I thought I knew was largely based in ignorance, in regards to gender - it becomes unclear the closer you look at it when trying to find absolutes, so I instead measure it by degrees now - with feminine and masculine being relative a dichotomy/schematic for both arbitrary and non arbitrary reference points
( regarding talking about artificial or natural phenotypic expression here- a distinction which I find useful to a degree but is ultimately illusory ) Since I know I don’t know, I leave the door open for all possibilities to potentially be true as regards this subject matter;however, some potentials are much more probable than others. Ie, everything’s potentially possible but not all possibilities are equally probable at the same time.
Male and-or Female, Masculine and-or Feminine, Boy/Man and-or Girl/Woman, Penis and-or Vagina.
It’s all the same thing expressed differently to me. I still have my own dispensation and personal preferences, but I don’t believe them to be the only valid ones. And to me, it’s mostly about what’s appropriate to the individual in the long term and in the larger view of the species as a functional whole.
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