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Offlinecfkidd96
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manual lid fanning
    #26623774 - 04/24/20 01:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

i understand that you fan 3-4 times a day but for how long 30 sec, a couple mins or longer?


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: cfkidd96]
    #26623855 - 04/24/20 03:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm also uncertain about fanning with a lid in a shoebox setup - specifically, how often and for how long?

It's not as simple when you read about mushroom growing and i cannot stress the following enough: There is SO much misinformation out there! Perhaps not strict misinformation but harmful interpretations in the sense that every setup is different so there's no generalized mode of process.

The only thing I trust from these forums are the posts from Roger Rabbit. Read and stick to those.

However, that still leaves me with a question about misting or more specifically the balance between FAE, humidity and misting.

The advise about fanning, and fanning often (RR says 3-4 times an hour, if possible) counteracts the advise on keeping Relative Humidity at a 90%+ since opening the lid and fanning instantly reduces humidity. How long does it take to "build" up again, granted the substrate is saturated with water?

I am afraid that fanning too much: too little humidity and conversely not fanning enough will leave beads of water on my shrooms that will cause aborts.

So I am trying a balancing act here but am stressful that my environment is not humid enough. Mycelium is forming on the caps of my mushrooms and this could be an indication of TOO LOW humidity (yes, countless of posts on here says the opposite (misinformation!!) but the most respected members here states that mycelium on caps = low humidity. ).


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: cfkidd96]
    #26623860 - 04/24/20 03:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Fanning is totally unnecassary.


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26623887 - 04/24/20 03:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Fanning is totally unnecassary.




I’ve heard mixed opinions about this, so I fan once a day for about a minute and a half. The only thing I think that has become a factor for me at least, is that fanning will dry out the humidity in my SGFCs, at least momentarily. So what I usually do is the once a day I do fan, I’ve got into the habit of misting after I fan, not before. It may be totally unnecessary, but as long as it’s not hurting anything, I don’t care if it is a placebo LOL. Like I said everybody seems to have a different opinion about this.


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26623897 - 04/24/20 04:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Tubs, shoeboxes, SGFCs, etc, etc are pretty much set and forget. If you have everything dialed in properly you literally shouldnt have to touch anything. If youre fanning all the time, multiple times a day, youre probably not too confident about what youre doing. You should learn to read and interpret surface conditions and if anything mist once in a while. The only thing i do to my tubs is mist and thats only after the first flush to help maintain surface moisture, or on my shoe boxes to help prevent side pins. The more you try to mess with shit, the more likely you are to mess it up. Unless youre doing an open air grow or trying to cultivate cyans or something, you shouldnt have to be that hands-on.

If, you do have to fan for whatever reason, perhaps instead just take the lid off the tub for a cpl hrs while youre home or perhaps place an indirect fan in your grow room


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: Je77Ce11ar]
    #26623898 - 04/24/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ding! Ding! Bingo!

If your FC has proper FAE, u dont need to fan at all. I never fan and have done countless grows.


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: Je77Ce11ar]
    #26623959 - 04/24/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Tubs, shoeboxes, SGFCs, etc, etc are pretty much set and forget. If you have everything dialed in properly




Your last sentence leaves a lot of wiggle room though. RR says:
"FAE - Four air exchanges per HOUR are recommended. I'd suggest fanning three times per day, and drilling a hundred or more holes in your terrarium to get you by between fannings so you can leave for work, play, etc."

What to believe?

I have a shoebox setup with 6 holes in the bottom, 8 on top, would you say that provides enough FAE to only fan when I mist? Cause I am actually afraid that fanning 5-6 times a day kills my humidity and makes for an unstable climate.

It's interesting, I've noted many people saying that they hardly mist in the beginning of a growth - is that because the substrate is saturated and provides more than enough water and humidity to keep things going?


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: Polyphony] * 1
    #26624009 - 04/24/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Tubs, shoeboxes, SGFCs, etc, etc are pretty much set and forget. If you have everything dialed in properly




Your last sentence leaves a lot of wiggle room though. RR says:
"FAE - Four air exchanges per HOUR are recommended. I'd suggest fanning three times per day, and drilling a hundred or more holes in your terrarium to get you by between fannings so you can leave for work, play, etc."

What to believe?

I have a shoebox setup with 6 holes in the bottom, 8 on top, would you say that provides enough FAE to only fan when I mist? Cause I am actually afraid that fanning 5-6 times a day kills my humidity and makes for an unstable climate.

It's interesting, I've noted many people saying that they hardly mist in the beginning of a growth - is that because the substrate is saturated and provides more than enough water and humidity to keep things going?




RR is shroomgod. Where would we be without him? But again, the nature of science is constant learning and improvement. There are so many facets of our pursuit that have been left in the past because now we know better. Read more current teks from Trusted Cultivators. Specifically to your current grow, read Mushboy's shoebox Tek so you can stop fanning.


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038695/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26624018 - 04/24/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

taking the lid off is dangerous im coming to learn.

between a gnat flying in there, and me passing out and leaving the lid off all night the other night, i think i killed my first tub.

like poster ^^ my humidity is shit inside the tub and i even live in a sweathole in the south where outside its 50%RH or more all the time.

i think my surface died from drying out. no hole tub, just left the lid off for FAE...


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26624025 - 04/24/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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taking the lid off is dangerous im coming to learn.

between a gnat flying in there, and me passing out and leaving the lid off all night the other night, i think i killed my first tub.

like poster ^^ my humidity is shit inside the tub and i even live in a sweathole in the south where outside its 50%RH or more all the time.

i think my surface died from drying out. no hole tub, just left the lid off for FAE...




I also recently passed out and left lids off my tubs, they got dry, I misted, replaced lids, no problem. Your surface conditions will tell you what to do.

Gnats will get in regardless. Use a drop of peppermint oil in your spray bottle and give your tubs a light mist, they won't come back.

But yeah, less intervention is best. Just shine a bright headlamp into the tub, if the surface glistens with tiny beads you're perfect. If not, mist until it does. If there's puddles on the surface, crack the lid a bit.


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: Polyphony] * 1
    #26624028 - 04/24/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Tubs, shoeboxes, SGFCs, etc, etc are pretty much set and forget. If you have everything dialed in properly




Your last sentence leaves a lot of wiggle room though. RR says:
"FAE - Four air exchanges per HOUR are recommended. I'd suggest fanning three times per day, and drilling a hundred or more holes in your terrarium to get you by between fannings so you can leave for work, play, etc."

What to believe?

I have a shoebox setup with 6 holes in the bottom, 8 on top, would you say that provides enough FAE to only fan when I mist? Cause I am actually afraid that fanning 5-6 times a day kills my humidity and makes for an unstable climate.

It's interesting, I've noted many people saying that they hardly mist in the beginning of a growth - is that because the substrate is saturated and provides more than enough water and humidity to keep things going?





We all know that RR is an OG, but when did you make that quote? 10 yrs ago? A lot has changed during that time. There's so many ppl running unmoded tubs right now doing absolutely nothing in terms of fanning/misting and growing forests.


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: Je77Ce11ar] * 1
    #26624290 - 04/24/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Air exchange should be constant and passive, as in holes or a lid ajar etc. Fanning is more for lowering humidity to get some evaporation going. There definitely is a lot of misinformation going around. What I posted may well be 100% backwards, but it makes sense to me and works well in real life. Cubes are really easy to grow if you can produce clean spawn. You just have to pay attention and hold the balance of maximum fresh air while keeping them humid enough to be happy.

I think a whole host of problems come from slightly contaminated spawn thay still produces mushrooms but something just seems off, so people keep tweaking things and saying the teks don’t work, you need air stones and humidity masks for each fruit when really they aren’t growing well because other stuff is competing.


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Re: manual lid fanning [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26624444 - 04/24/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

RR will tell you himself that information is old, its not useless just outdated.


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