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What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency 1
#26622874 - 04/23/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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My most recent few harvests have been low potency, so I'm going to start over with different spores or grab a new clone, but that's neither here nor there.
My question is; what do I do with this batch? It's a large amount, several tubs worth. They definitely work, but you have to ingest a much larger dose to get any results.
Needless to say, it's taking up a lot of storage space, and I don't want to give these to friends. Can I just grind them up and make a large amount of tea, then reduce it down to a single mason jar's worth and freeze it?
What have you done in a situation like this?
Edit: This may or may not belong in the Experience forum...
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26622924 - 04/23/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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id dry them all to dust. then put some in caps and see if you feel the same way.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores] 1
#26622929 - 04/23/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did you use a dehydrator?
Pretty easy solution tho, figure out how much equals your standard dose, then make a tea. Even if you have to eat 6 grams or something, the tea will make sure your stomach can handle all the chitin
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: The Mycologist]
#26622939 - 04/23/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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panne cyanne said: id dry them all to dust. then put some in caps and see if you feel the same way.
That is my usual procedure with all harvests. I will be testing again tomorrow as my first tests may have been affected by tolerance. Would be nice if my first tests were false.
This is still an interesting subject. I know some genetics just have low potency. What is the usual course of action with low potency + large amount + limited storage space?
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The Mycologist said: Did you use a dehydrator?
Pretty easy solution tho, figure out how much equals your standard dose, then make a tea. Even if you have to eat 6 grams or something, the tea will make sure your stomach can handle all the chitin
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20712738
Yes they were dehydrated as soon as harvested and ground up then encapsulated.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26622946 - 04/23/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its really shocking for a MS grow to be bunk.
You sure you dont have a wild tolerance lol?
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26622949 - 04/23/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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its possible even with clones for power to vary flush to flush. ive had first flushes that were worthless, lead to third flushs that were power hazards
grindint the entire crop with all flushes tells you the average raw power value. 000 caps hold about .95g if its absolute flour dry dust.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: panne cyanne] 1
#26622960 - 04/23/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Mycologist said: Its really shocking for a MS grow to be bunk.
You sure you dont have a wild tolerance lol?
Nah, my first few grows were pretty decent in terms of potency. 3.5g's to get almost to level 3 on an empty stomach. And this grow wasn't really MS. It's from a clone of my biggest fruit from an MS, then transferred sectors on agar until (mostly) isolated, then fruited. I think it's just bad genetics on that isolate.
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panne cyanne said: its possible even with clones for power to vary flush to flush. ive had first flushes that were worthless, lead to third flushs that were power hazards
grindint the entire crop with all flushes tells you the average raw power value. 000 caps hold about .95g if its absolute flour dry dust.
This is my usual procedure except I use 00s and test with around 3g.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26623577 - 04/23/20 10:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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wait, so you cloned from the ms culture that almost gave you a lvl 3 trip?
or you cloned from a different ms culture. If so, how was the original ms culture potency wise compared to the isolated culture now?
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: genesis128] 1
#26623770 - 04/24/20 01:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just eat more mushrooms, potency problem solved.
Usually when people have big variations In percieved potency between flushes I think it's a matter of tolerance. You really gotta wait a month or so to get the full effects again. They can still be very intoxicating, just not as magic
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26623903 - 04/24/20 04:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Make mushroom tea. Or maybe an alcohol extraction
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26623915 - 04/24/20 04:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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do a lot of people try to clone the biggest fruit? Ive done it, but now id much rather just go for the illest cluster. Took this one cluster off my most recent MS grow that was the entire short length of my mono. Ripped up half the sub trying to get this mfer off, was literally as big as an oyster cluster
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Je77Ce11ar]
#26623922 - 04/24/20 04:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude! Cluster Luck! (Halo anyone?)
I think people equate large fruits with high potency. Or maybe its for bag appeal. No one wants those midget shrooms
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26623923 - 04/24/20 04:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Dude! Cluster Luck! (Halo anyone?)
I think people equate large fruits with high potency. Or maybe its for bag appeal. No one wants those midget shrooms 
They don't bother me none. My coffee grinder and capsule maker are Equal Opportunity Storage mediums.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26623930 - 04/24/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol right!? idk man, ive grown 8+ lbs this year so far, and prolly most potent were my small, thin malabars...not that strain matters but idk
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Je77Ce11ar]
#26624417 - 04/24/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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genesis128 said: wait, so you cloned from the ms culture that almost gave you a lvl 3 trip?
or you cloned from a different ms culture. If so, how was the original ms culture potency wise compared to the isolated culture now?
No, my previous grows gave me that trip experience, some tubs were ms, some were isolates. I was just mentioning that to show that I don't have some crazy tolerance.
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Je77Ce11ar said: do a lot of people try to clone the biggest fruit? Ive done it, but now id much rather just go for the illest cluster. Took this one cluster off my most recent MS grow that was the entire short length of my mono. Ripped up half the sub trying to get this mfer off, was literally as big as an oyster cluster 
I didn't realize you could clone a cluster until very recently. I think i just chose the biggest fruit because it was easiest to pull apart and get a sample. Also it looked nice 
Thanks for all the info guys, I'm going to be re-testing this batch tonight. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores] 1
#26624431 - 04/24/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Figured I'd give you all a visual of the batch too, just for shits and giggles
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26624460 - 04/24/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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if they are weak increase the amount you consume. I like to dry mine thoroughly, grind'em up, mix all together thoroughly and then dose, after the first dose I make the necessary adjustments up or down. For instance, if I ate 5g dry weight and it was a light experience I would do 7.5g the time and so on. You have to remember that potency literally varies from one mushroom to another, drying and combining them all will allow for more consistent doses.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Doc9151]
#26625026 - 04/24/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fire sale!
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Doc9151]
#26625050 - 04/24/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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In terms of long term storage - Does grinding mushrooms into dust and encapsulating reduce potency?
Those pics are delightful - even if weak, they're some beautiful fruits.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26625116 - 04/24/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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My first grow, was MS. They were small as fuck. and matured 10 shrooms/ day for over a week.
but I get BLITZED off 4g.
The LC I made from it. they all pop together. all 2x the size. but it takes 6g to even be worth my time.
I would trade them all for another grow of my tiny shrooms
ps not tolerance. I still have a bag of each. and still get blasted off the first batch.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: MrMong]
#26625152 - 04/24/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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MrMong said: In terms of long term storage - Does grinding mushrooms into dust and encapsulating reduce potency?
Those pics are delightful - even if weak, they're some beautiful fruits.
Thanks m8, even with low potency (still slightly unconfirmed), I was proud of this tub.
In my experience and after researching on the forums a lot, I've found no evidence that grinding and capping reduces potency. From what I understand, it's one of the best ways to preserve potency and one of the best ways to dose due to the surface area. Also the capsules help a lot if you experience nausea and body load. Your stomach isn't working as hard to digest the material.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26625300 - 04/24/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I also don't just find some weak sauce. But I find huge variation in the high as well. The weak sauce shrooms have a huge body load.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26625322 - 04/24/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm willing to bet the next time you eat them your gonna trip balls and be massively confused about their potency. Just keep fruiting them. Eat the same amount as last time and give us a trial run.
Potency is such a hard thing to measure I'm willing to bet the same batch and same weight will blow your mind next time. Haha just a hunch.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sockadin]
#26625403 - 04/24/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: your gonna trip balls and be massively confused about their potency.
that actually made me laugh out loud
Thanks for the info Sprores I'll give the capsules a go!
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sockadin]
#26625500 - 04/24/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: I'm willing to bet the next time you eat them your gonna trip balls and be massively confused about their potency. Just keep fruiting them. Eat the same amount as last time and give us a trial run.
Potency is such a hard thing to measure I'm willing to bet the same batch and same weight will blow your mind next time. Haha just a hunch.
We'll see tonight (if wife and kids allow). If not tonight then definitely tomorrow. Will do 3g in capsules and report back.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: rumfor69] 1
#26625619 - 04/24/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: Fire sale!

Or grind em up and make chocolates at 1g+ each. Should be easy to find chocolate molds around that will fit 1g+.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26625632 - 04/24/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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How long since last trip? Might help to wait a week or two.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sockadin]
#26625662 - 04/24/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: How long since last trip? Might help to wait a week or two.
1 week.
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores] 1
#26625871 - 04/24/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well guys...I may have been mistaken about these... 
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Je77Ce11ar] 1
#26625976 - 04/25/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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boof them obviously
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: Sprores]
#26626197 - 04/25/20 03:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sprores said: Well guys...I may have been mistaken about these...  
Perhaps they are more potent than u estimated?
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26626198 - 04/25/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol famous last words before talking to aliens
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: TedsDead] 1
#26626225 - 04/25/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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TedsDead said: boof them obviously
Obviously
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Re: What Do With Large Amounts of Low Potency [Re: TedsDead]
#26626285 - 04/25/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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TedsDead said: boof them obviously
As my friend madmodder would say, Boof Till Ya Goof.
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