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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 1
    #26622608 - 04/23/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No, I'm saying he's doing bad.


Just because it's not necessarily unprecedented and other people are also doing bad does not negate the fact that he's doing bad.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26622612 - 04/23/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

My aunts brother died yesterday. Heart attack caused by covid19

He died at home at those deaths are apparently not even being included in stats according to what cnn just said


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26622620 - 04/23/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

With great power comes great responsibility.

In his position words are not something one can afford to say without measure, because they have the real potential for serious consequences , the highest office in the land is highly impactful on much of the public,  they get it straight from the top of the pyramid, outa the horses mouth, and take it on faith.

So yes, he bares responsibility and blame.

That’s what being an adult entails.  Not even going to explain how being the president of the US factors into that equation since it should be plain as day.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26622622 - 04/23/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry to hear the Morrow :hug:.


Was he tested or just presumed positive? I doubt that there's much, if any, post mortem testing going on. But it's scary to think that we might not even be counting at home death's of people who have tested positive.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26622634 - 04/23/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

He went to hospital with symptoms, got tested, was sent home with albuterol and told to quarantine until test results came back, came back positive, they told him come in if you feel like you need to, he didnt go in, had a heart attack the following morning. No previous heart attacks. He was 61. Only known comorbidity was obesity but he probably did have some degree of metabolic syndrome


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26622639 - 04/23/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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My aunts brother died yesterday. Heart attack caused by covid19

He died at home at those deaths are apparently not even being included in stats according to what cnn just said




Feel you:heart:
Lost first relative all so for this virus.
Gets more personal when it hits close.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26622657 - 04/23/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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He went to hospital with symptoms, got tested, was sent home with albuterol and told to quarantine until test results came back, came back positive, they told him come in if you feel like you need to, he didnt go in, had a heart attack the following morning. No previous heart attacks. He was 61. Only known comorbidity was obesity but he probably did have some degree of metabolic syndrome






Scary stuff.

And it's especially fucked that this isn't counted.


Partially why I think we should hold our horses when it comes to assuming that this is way less lethal than we think. We just don't know yet.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26622661 - 04/23/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Is is scary that he apparently wasnt THAT sick but died suddenly. Becoming increasingly apparent that blood clotting problems are the proximate cause of many if not most cases of covid19 mortality. Even mainstream media is beginning to report on the strange low satting despite lack of dyspnea phenomenon, though they are treating like it is more mysterious than it really is. Even if it werent the case that covid damages the liver directly or through dysregulation of iron metabolism, it is no secret that systemic inflammation in and of itself can lead to liver failure and therefore to blood clotting disorders


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26622670 - 04/23/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well fingers crossed that we do see that death rate inch down a little with more routine prophylactic treatment for blood clotting. I am really curious and cautiously hopeful about the outcome of that.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #26622684 - 04/23/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Steamingly optimistic. None of the countries who are "past the hammer phase" dont eve have 1% of confoirmed cases.

This is a pandemic. Slip up once and bang, 100,000 cases up the ass.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted]
    #26622712 - 04/23/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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There is a pretty clear relationship between the proportion of people in positions of power and influence that have a scientific background in a country and that countrys outcomes. South korea and germany are obvious examples of this. Even south korean pop culture film is clearly more heavily influenced by real science. The south korean movie flu is highly dramatized but prescient in many ways.



If South Korea has the same personal ettiquete guidelines as Japan then them having a lack of outbreak wouldn’t be that surprising.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: lowbrow]
    #26622722 - 04/23/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

its cause theyre good ass gardeners bro


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: cannabinated]
    #26622735 - 04/23/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Wha?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: lowbrow]
    #26622742 - 04/23/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

they understand how to deal with an outbreak among a population

thats pretty much all gardening is once you have sun


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: cannabinated]
    #26622744 - 04/23/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So you basically agree with me and are being metaphorical about it?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: lowbrow]
    #26622770 - 04/23/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

im not not agreeing with you


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: cannabinated]
    #26622785 - 04/23/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Told ya sooo




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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26622786 - 04/23/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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im not not agreeing with you




are you agreeing with me then?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
    #26622797 - 04/23/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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Steamingly optimistic. None of the countries who are "past the hammer phase" dont eve have 1% of confoirmed cases.

This is a pandemic. Slip up once and bang, 100,000 cases up the ass.




Really? In Finland for example total 4000+ cases, under 200 deaths. Not so bad I would say. The restrictions are working and hospitals are not running on 200%+ capaticity. We have more er beds that are in use and recovery rate is with par on new cases.


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