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Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? 1
#26622710 - 04/23/20 03:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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While I'm not working, I want to gain some online skills. I have Microsoft Office 2007 on my computer, and I want to know if a lot of the functions are on the latest version. I don't want to pay for it, at least yet, if I don't need to. Aside from updating resumes and doing cover letters in Word, I haven't used any of them in several years, maybe since 2013 which was the last time I took college courses. I had one class that I used PowerPoint, but I don't remember how to use it. I want to learn Excel, which I only used at a job I had last year for only specific uses. I'd like to eventually be a pro at all Microsoft Office, but before I purchase the latest version, will the 2007 version be good enough to learn, or is too different from the latest version?
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: SprewellSleeve] 1
#26622747 - 04/23/20 04:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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They're fairly different. Personally I really prefer libreoffice or open office to Microsoft, they're free, but they are also easier to use and feel a lot more intuitive. Unfortunately open office and libre office don't come with powerpoint, there's a similar program, but unlike the equivalent to word it is not as good.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: SprewellSleeve] 1
#26622771 - 04/23/20 04:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just torrent the package or go to one of those small PC fixing stores and ask them for it. Those guys can usually hook you up for a few bucks and install everything too
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: Babylon] 1
#26623247 - 04/23/20 07:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Babylon said: They're fairly different. Personally I really prefer libreoffice or open office to Microsoft, they're free, but they are also easier to use and feel a lot more intuitive. Unfortunately open office and libre office don't come with powerpoint, there's a similar program, but unlike the equivalent to word it is not as good.
Do a lot of employers look for people who know LibreOffice and OpenOffice?
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: SprewellSleeve] 1
#26623606 - 04/23/20 10:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Start a free trial, enroll in Microsoft office specialist certification course.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/learning/office365-training.aspx
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/learning/course-list.aspx
I took excel PowerPoint and word some 15 years ago (it scares me a bit how old this stuff is) and have been thinking about brushing up myself.
When I took it the class was free you just paid for the test and certificate. Though again that was a long time ago.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#26623618 - 04/23/20 11:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Been writing macros for excel and I've been like

I think though you could probably figure it out as you go with some YouTube videos. The main difference between 2007 and office 365 is that Microsoft tried to make it cleaner so it kinda sucks. It's hard to find things and there's a bit of "learning" and auto format it does that I hate cuz it's a bitch to fix.
Really it's awful when office thinks it knows what I want and it doesn't.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#26623668 - 04/23/20 11:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The major difference between Office 2007 and 2013 is (1) the user interface and (2) licensing. In terms of functionality, they're very similar indeed. Tutorials for newer versions of office can be a little hard to follow if you're using 2007 as the menu structure has changed to the more recent "ribbon" style.
I use office all the time for my work, mostly word, powerpoint and excel, including macros, automatically generating word docs based on excel data (using mail merge combined with vba), some fairly advanced excel stuff including array functions, etc etc. In the past I've also used access but these days I just use excel for similar purposes as it's more straightforward to get the job done. And outlook of course, which has come a long way since the old days in terms of performance and stability.
I've also used open office and libre office, but these pale in comparison with the Microsoft products in terms of usability and most importantly functionality. I happily pay the annual fee for my microsoft stuff.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: SprewellSleeve] 1
#26623756 - 04/24/20 01:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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2007 is a bit dated but the Microsoft programs havent changed much over the years. The best way to learn is to explore the program, explore all the menus/buttons and experiment. Once u experiment enough (hours and hours), u will have a pretty good understanding of how to use it.
PowerPoint is pretty fun and quite easy to use once u get the hang of it. Excel is the most complex program and u probably wanna watch some YouTube tutorials or join a Excel forum to learn more about it.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26623768 - 04/24/20 01:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wait, people still use Windows...?
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: Loaded Shaman] 2
#26623807 - 04/24/20 02:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said: Wait, people still use Windows...?
Absolutely. If I count the cumulative hours that I've spent on software maintenance/reinstalls/troubleshooting on the computers I've used over the past 15 years, Windows involved a dramatically lower overhead compared to Linux. Despite the appeal of Linux at a theoretical level, at a practical level, Windows just allows me better productivity and less wasted time.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: koraks]
#26623830 - 04/24/20 02:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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koraks said:
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Loaded Shaman said: Wait, people still use Windows...?
Absolutely. If I count the cumulative hours that I've spent on software maintenance/reinstalls/troubleshooting on the computers I've used over the past 15 years, Windows involved a dramatically lower overhead compared to Linux. Despite the appeal of Linux at a theoretical level, at a practical level, Windows just allows me better productivity and less wasted time.
Thank you for your intelligent comment here. I agree completely. I'm a Mac user simply because the majority of my work is graphics and marketing based, and that system just intuitively allows me to remain productive to a higher degree. The exact thing you said in your last sentence but with Mac for me.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26623835 - 04/24/20 02:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said: Wait, people still use Windows...?
Companies love Microsoft in general, they're absolutely here to stay and dominate. There are Mac shops, but between windows 10 enterprise, Office 365, and Azure, they seem like they're in the minority to me .
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26623850 - 04/24/20 03:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said: Wait, people still use Windows...?
Are u on Linux or Mac?
I love Microsoft. My phone runs on Microsoft, thats how much i love the OS. Sadly, its a bit dated for apps and such, but works foe the Shroomery!
I may have to switch to Androids (shiiiiiiiit) in the future thou. Microsoft is slacking in the phones department....
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26623878 - 04/24/20 03:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said: Wait, people still use Windows...?
Absolutely. If I count the cumulative hours that I've spent on software maintenance/reinstalls/troubleshooting on the computers I've used over the past 15 years, Windows involved a dramatically lower overhead compared to Linux. Despite the appeal of Linux at a theoretical level, at a practical level, Windows just allows me better productivity and less wasted time.
Thank you for your intelligent comment here. I agree completely. I'm a Mac user simply because the majority of my work is graphics and marketing based, and that system just intuitively allows me to remain productive to a higher degree. The exact thing you said in your last sentence but with Mac for me.
Yes, I think a very similar argument will work for Mac. I've never intensively used Mac, but it's always been optimized for user experience, ease of use and productivity. Interestingly, in online exchanges involving OS choices the emphasis very often shifts towards technical aspects and theoretical possibilities, but with much less attention to the real-world experiences of the average users. I do understand the dynamic; I came from a much more technical perspective, having worked for years on the technical side of office automation/personal computing and as such, the technical and conceptual side of the matter has always interested me. But that also makes me recognize how easy it is to let those considerations overwhelm the day-to-day operational user perspective and the business perspective.
The fact that Linux is 'free' (depending on distro etc.) seems very appealing, but if you account for the fact that a 1- or 2-hour loss of productivity that would not have happened with MS or Mac already compensates easily for the license fee of the latter, the conclusion is inescapable that 'free' ain't very cheap in the end.
The apparent security of Linux that is always tauted is very nice of course, but what is its value if the user base is still marginal and compatibility/interoperability issues with other users are common (have fun swapping your powerpoint slides between a tux-based app and the real MS product)?
The superior agility, flexibility and possibilities for customization of Linux is absolutely fantastic from a technical perspective, but if these come at the cost of the ease of performing fairly mundane tasks (which I find is more often the case than not), the net advantage for a regular user is at best 0, and in most cases negative.
So it's all very nice, and I do still run Linux on an old laptop that I use infrequently, but for anything that I use regularly, that I just need to perform on a daily basis without hassle and that needs to fit within a larger environment of office users, I personally stick to MS.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: SprewellSleeve] 2
#26623892 - 04/24/20 04:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Use Libre Office.
It looks and functions a lot like the OLD Office you're probably used to and reads and writes almost any format. I've referred clients at work to it and they love it.
And it's free!
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#26625450 - 04/24/20 06:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: Start a free trial, enroll in Microsoft office specialist certification course.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/learning/office365-training.aspx
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/learning/course-list.aspx
I took excel PowerPoint and word some 15 years ago (it scares me a bit how old this stuff is) and have been thinking about brushing up myself.
When I took it the class was free you just paid for the test and certificate. Though again that was a long time ago.
Thanks. I'm gonna do the free trial and look into the certification course.
Thanks to everybody for the help!
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: SprewellSleeve] 2
#26626391 - 04/25/20 06:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you checked out the online apps. They are probably better than office 2007.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: Crazy_Horse] 1
#26626841 - 04/25/20 10:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crazy_Horse said: Have you checked out the online apps. They are probably better than office 2007.
Doesn't it have limitations though? If so, I might as well just get the free trial of the whole thing and learn while I'm not paying for it. If I think it's worth keeping longer than that to learn more, then I'll pay for it once the trial is up.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
#26679691 - 05/18/20 07:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Earlier this month I signed up for the free trial of Microsoft 365. I learned and practiced some Word, PowerPoint, Excel, and a little bit of OneNote. I downloaded LibreOffice, looked at some videos on it, but didn't feel the need to learn much of it. I decided not to learn Apache OpenOffice after looking at a video(s) because I feel like I didn't need to learn it either. The one thing I do like and did a little bit of learning and practicing from LibreOffice is they have the old style WordArt. I wanted to put LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice on my resume, but it doesn't seem necessary to learn them and unless an employer isn't familiar with those two and would be impressed with the list of that kind of software that I know, Microsoft 365 would be good enough. I also wanted to learn those two just because it was posted in this thread.
For Excel I learned some things such as learning how to make basic schedules/list and other stuff. I didn't even go into technical stuff with math and graphics because I wouldn't have been into it at all. I had plans to go more extensive with Microsoft 365, but none of these are my passion and would have bored me too much. Access? Forget it. I watched one video to learn and see what it is and had no idea what was going on. I finished watching the video for the sake of it. I just wanted to get more skills on the computer for a front desk/office/work at home job and it's healthy and feels good to learn new things. I got creative with these programs, so it wasn't that boring all the time, but I'm not gonna spend that much time on them anymore. The free Microsoft 365 is probably good enough for me.
Thanks for the help, everybody.
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Re: Anybody familiar with Microsoft Office Suite? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
#26679873 - 05/18/20 09:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Generally better to get a certificate if you want to put it with your resume, than it is to list software you've learned on your own. Listing it out can get bogged down and a bit cliche on modern resumes I'd imagine for most people hiring.
Microsoft office and powerpoint aren't quite resume padders, no one is really hiring on the basis of proficiency in those because they are intuitive enough to learn on the job if someone really needed to. Same with your WPM score, which people think is good because it was good when their parents listed it on their resumes back in 1993. Two things that will make your resume look worse by adding it.
Better to knock out a few free certificate programs online and insert the cert at the end of your resume if it's relevant to what you're applying for.
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