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The Midnight Gospel Discussion * 5
    #26622150 - 04/23/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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“From the creators of Adventure Time, comes...”

Does anyone really need to hear more?:rofl2:

It’s the most psychedelic-looking piece of TV I’ve ever seen. Trippy imagery, deep theological discussion, timeless themes - what more can you ask for from a cartoon?

If you haven’t seen it, go do that. It’s on Netflix. If you have, I wanna know what you think.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: feldman114] * 2
    #26622155 - 04/23/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)



Actual promotional art - not that one new blotter print


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: feldman114] * 2
    #26622158 - 04/23/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I loved it. It was really relaxing and educating. The conversation they have are interesting! Great cartoon

For those who don't know, it is a cartoon about a philosophical space podcast that an earthling on an alien planet has by interviewing beings in his interdimensional VR simulator


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: feldman114]
    #26622184 - 04/23/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't have Netflix or any streaming service... Any other way i can be included? I am very open to piracy jfy... :whistling:
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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Magenta]
    #26622186 - 04/23/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

torrent?


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26622299 - 04/23/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've been digging it, especially the magick episode.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #26622326 - 04/23/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don’t know, the conversations were pretty dry to me. Maybe it was the podcast style conversation that was being had.

But in terms of the content I didn’t like how it was spoken as though it were so instead of appearing to be so. I mean much of what they talk about has been explained via neuroscience today.

That and the subject seems a little nihilistic.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Magenta] * 1
    #26622407 - 04/23/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't have Netflix or any streaming service... Any other way i can be included? I am very open to piracy jfy... :whistling:
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www1 [dot] swatchseries [dot] to




Hella pop ups, but you get to the actual video eventually lol

Edit: just realized this isn’t reddit lol. Here ya go https://www1.swatchseries.to/episode/the_midnight_gospel_s1_e1.html


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26622422 - 04/23/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I don’t know, the conversations were pretty dry to me. Maybe it was the podcast style conversation that was being had.

But in terms of the content I didn’t like how it was spoken as though it were so instead of appearing to be so. I mean much of what they talk about has been explained via neuroscience today.

That and the subject seems a little nihilistic.




To you, my critical friend, I recommend Waco.
It’s about a guy who shares your theological conviction that sex must be eliminated from our lives if we are to know enlightenment.
Spoiler alert: He was the “Waco”

Shade thrown.:micdrop:
Now, I AM interested in what you mean by “how it was spoken as though it were so”. Can you elaborate?


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: feldman114]
    #26622429 - 04/23/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanatos10 said:
I don’t know, the conversations were pretty dry to me. Maybe it was the podcast style conversation that was being had.

But in terms of the content I didn’t like how it was spoken as though it were so instead of appearing to be so. I mean much of what they talk about has been explained via neuroscience today.

That and the subject seems a little nihilistic.




To you, my critical friend, I recommend Waco.
It’s about a guy who shares your theological conviction that sex must be eliminated from our lives if we are to know enlightenment.
Spoiler alert: He was the “Waco”

Shade thrown.:micdrop:
Now, I AM interested in what you mean by “how it was spoken as though it were so”. Can you elaborate?




Well they talked about these topics as though it was the obvious conclusion to reach rather than just a point of view.

Personally I found the show a bit depressing and nihilistic, especially the last episode.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26622511 - 04/23/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Idk, nihilistic is a rejection of all theologies (right?)

To me, the show doesn’t seem to reject anything. I guess there’s a theme of “all we have is our interactions (human connection)” that can easily translate to “we have nothing because we’re just mammals with an elaborate mating ritual (intelligence)”. But...I mean...it’s all about perspective. Kinda like a psychedelic trip.

This makes me think of my last trip. Shit got dark, I was basically stuck in a loop of “I’m just a meat bag, once my meat goes bad I’ll seize to exist; even if one of the religions is right, there’s no way I’ll retain my personality/memories/ego, so it’s as good as nothingness”
I tried pulling myself out of it with shit like “there’s still time, they’ll invent the cure for death or upload your mind somewhere, etc.” Only made it worse.
BUT, as many people here can predict, once I let go and accepted that I’m just a meatbag who will soon die, it was over. I’ve been on this overcoming-fear-of-death roller coaster before, but got something new out of it this time. The realization came over me like a wave, made me physically gasp in an empty room at 3am lol.
Anyway, the mushies made me think about human connection. They turned my original premise on me - I said “we have nothing but human connection”, but the truth is “there is nothing BUT human connection because IT is everything.” It’s way more profound with 5g of PE in the tank, I promise.
Still, there’s something to it. Think about it - nothing you do matters until someone else knows about it. Arguably, nothing you do is even real unless witnessed (it a bear farts in the woods and there’s no one there to hear it...).


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: feldman114]
    #26622633 - 04/23/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Turned it off after 10 minutes :shrug:

Also dont like the grainy animations


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: feldman114]
    #26622658 - 04/23/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Idk, nihilistic is a rejection of all theologies (right?)

To me, the show doesn’t seem to reject anything. I guess there’s a theme of “all we have is our interactions (human connection)” that can easily translate to “we have nothing because we’re just mammals with an elaborate mating ritual (intelligence)”. But...I mean...it’s all about perspective. Kinda like a psychedelic trip.

This makes me think of my last trip. Shit got dark, I was basically stuck in a loop of “I’m just a meat bag, once my meat goes bad I’ll seize to exist; even if one of the religions is right, there’s no way I’ll retain my personality/memories/ego, so it’s as good as nothingness”
I tried pulling myself out of it with shit like “there’s still time, they’ll invent the cure for death or upload your mind somewhere, etc.” Only made it worse.
BUT, as many people here can predict, once I let go and accepted that I’m just a meatbag who will soon die, it was over. I’ve been on this overcoming-fear-of-death roller coaster before, but got something new out of it this time. The realization came over me like a wave, made me physically gasp in an empty room at 3am lol.
Anyway, the mushies made me think about human connection. They turned my original premise on me - I said “we have nothing but human connection”, but the truth is “there is nothing BUT human connection because IT is everything.” It’s way more profound with 5g of PE in the tank, I promise.
Still, there’s something to it. Think about it - nothing you do matters until someone else knows about it. Arguably, nothing you do is even real unless witnessed (it a bear farts in the woods and there’s no one there to hear it...).




I mean that trip isn’t special, it’s pretty much what the existential philosophers have been arguing against and with for a few decades.

Also human connection is not everything, that’s a very anthro centric view of reality. We have more than human connection, and someone doesn’t have to know about it for what you do to matter. Maybe lay off the drugs awhile.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26622694 - 04/23/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ahaha did you get hung up on the part where I mentioned the cult that preaches your worldview?
Cmon dude, learn to take a joke, especially if you want to go around telling people to “lay off the drugs” lol.

Anyway, it’s only your opinion that something else exists. Hence, “if a tree falls in the woods...”
You can’t prove that anything matters or that anything exists, except your own self.
But that’s kinda the basis of philosophy, so I’m sure you knew it. I thought we could have a discussion, but that’s not possible if you’re butthurt.

Anyway, I stopped after 2 episodes so I can save some mind-blowers for my next trip. I think the visual overload might be too much though...at least for the peak.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: feldman114]
    #26622713 - 04/23/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Ahaha did you get hung up on the part where I mentioned the cult that preaches your worldview?
Cmon dude, learn to take a joke, especially if you want to go around telling people to “lay off the drugs” lol.

Anyway, it’s only your opinion that something else exists. Hence, “if a tree falls in the woods...”
You can’t prove that anything matters or that anything exists, except your own self.
But that’s kinda the basis of philosophy, so I’m sure you knew it. I thought we could have a discussion, but that’s not possible if you’re butthurt.

Anyway, I stopped after 2 episodes so I can save some mind-blowers for my next trip. I think the visual overload might be too much though...at least for the peak.




It’s not really an opinion but more of a fact. I mean if you didn’t exist then you wouldn’t be typing on here. Philosophy doesn’t deal with certainty but rather with degrees of it. There’s a difference. NOTHING can be known with 100% certainty but that’s not the goal. We go by degrees of confidence.

If you want 100% certainty then you’ll be stuck forever.

But it’s true that human connection isn’t all we have. Things matter even if no one knows, human history is full of nameless and unknown folks who don’t get credit but still make an impact. Like the wind they are unseen but their impact is known.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26622720 - 04/23/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Science is actually a perfect example to be honest.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26622733 - 04/23/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ooooh buddy

Ooooooooh do I have news for you.

Ya see, with all your SAT vocab words and advanced terminology, I assumed you were a student of philosophy. Since that’s clearly not the case, I get to blow your mind
:fuckyeah:

The short version is “I think, therefore I am.” I’m sure you’ve heard this?

The only thing we know for sure is that we exist. This is 100% certain. Everything else has 0 basis in logic, because all other info depends on sensory input. We could all be brains in jars connected to a simulation.

Desecrates used the example of candle wax - it seems solid, then liquid, so you can’t trust your senses. But even my phyl101 professor mentioned psychedelics when discussing this.
So, maybe lay ON the drugs;)
The only thing I know for sure is that I exist, my dear figment of imagination :snowman:


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: feldman114]
    #26622754 - 04/23/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Desecrates?

You might need to take that course again :lol:


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    #26622792 - 04/23/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Ooooh buddy

Ooooooooh do I have news for you.

Ya see, with all your SAT vocab words and advanced terminology, I assumed you were a student of philosophy. Since that’s clearly not the case, I get to blow your mind
:fuckyeah:

The short version is “I think, therefore I am.” I’m sure you’ve heard this?

The only thing we know for sure is that we exist. This is 100% certain. Everything else has 0 basis in logic, because all other info depends on sensory input. We could all be brains in jars connected to a simulation.

Desecrates used the example of candle wax - it seems solid, then liquid, so you can’t trust your senses. But even my phyl101 professor mentioned psychedelics when discussing this.
So, maybe lay ON the drugs;)
The only thing I know for sure is that I exist, my dear figment of imagination :snowman:




Yawn, you mention the oldest argument in the book. Candle wax isn’t a good example because we knew that heat melts it, this isn’t a distrust of the senses but rather just simple note of its properties.

Our senses aren’t perfect but they are reliable enough to navigate the world and enable us to function and understand things. The existence of an external world isn’t 0% logic and one can reason that if I exist then how did I get here. Also an external reality explains a lot more than “everything is a figment” which has too many holes to be plausible. Actually even your existence can be held in doubt as well as thinking so Descartes was wrong about that as well.

Granted these are a matter or “more” and “less” right. Science doesn’t claim 100% certainty and neither does philosophy, but there are degrees of it. The brain in a vat isn’t worth my time because you can’t know so why bother?

It’s why I said that certainty is for idiots and that if you want it 100% you’ll end up nowhere.

Honestly? That dead horse is your counterpoint? Until something like Morpheus shows up telling me this isn’t real I have no reason to treat it as fiction. Even then it would only guarantee that said reality is fiction but not the one I entered from it.

Essentially the issue is turtles all the way down.


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Re: The Midnight Gospel Discussion [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26622805 - 04/23/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

There is a reason science has evidence and not proof.


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