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OfflineRebeccaBlack
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] * 1
    #26621807 - 04/23/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The CFR in Belgium is now 15%. UK is 13.5%. France 13.3%

These numbers are so divergent from rates in Asia it seems almost inescapable that we are dealing with at least two strains of the virus with significant differences in leathality




Wasn't the recent studies posted on the thread? There are multiple strains across the globe with varying degree of severity.

USA would have a weaker strain compared to European Countries. India have both, I read.

If someone finds it, please post it.

Hopes for a vaccine are decreasing as time goes.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack] * 1
    #26621819 - 04/23/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’ve only heard about the two main L and S strains, at least in terms of being functionally different.

The US and Canada are probably a mix of Asian and European strains, where the east coast got mainly the European one.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] * 1
    #26621925 - 04/23/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Did you check this link?
Lists all known strains/mutations of covid.

https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global

They even list how it is mutated.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26621932 - 04/23/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The CFR in Belgium is now 15%. UK is 13.5%. France 13.3%

These numbers are so divergent from rates in Asia it seems almost inescapable that we are dealing with at least two strains of the virus with significant differences in leathality




Wasn't the recent studies posted on the thread? There are multiple strains across the globe with varying degree of severity.

USA would have a weaker strain compared to European Countries. India have both, I read.

If someone finds it, please post it.

Hopes for a vaccine are decreasing as time goes.




UK will need social distancing until at least end of year, says Whitty.

Government’s chief medical officer (Whitty) says return to normal in short term is wholly unrealistic.

"Everyday life in the UK will not go back to normal for really quite a long period of time due to coronavirus" England's chief medical officer has said as he looked towards the easing of lockdown restrictions.

Professor Chris Whitty echoed Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab in saying lockdown must not be eased until a second peak of the virus can be averted.

He said "social distancing measures would have to remain in place until a vaccine or effective drugs to treat coronavirus can be found, which he warned was unlikely to happen this year".

Other commentators have suggested this could be endemic for years.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #26621936 - 04/23/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It's a beautiful example of the principle that rate of mutation is proportional to quantity of virus genetic material in the ecosystem.

The greater the number of people infected, the faster we see new strains appear.

@deuce I am getting used to the idea the COVID19 is just part of our lives now. It's the new flu.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26621956 - 04/23/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Elizabeth Warrens brother just died of covid


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
    #26621990 - 04/23/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The rest of the year should be a perfect chance to do a test run for UBI.

Just till the end of the year, have a stipend monthly for those that qualify / need and have paid taxes.

I can’t help but think reopening things all together anytime soon is High Folly.

We need time, a lot more.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26621999 - 04/23/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

In hindsight, what measures could have been taken that would have allowed the USA to re-open sooner?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26622017 - 04/23/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

community quarantines. not a single case where I'm at because they were quick to isolate individual communities and restrict access by non-residents


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack] * 2
    #26622019 - 04/23/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

None realistically.  Maybe if the entire public all had a collective mind and effort to consistently wear proper masks in Public, and had been starting late December early January.  More and better infrastructure and personal for exactly a pandemic. 

Better international cooperations -  but that’s been soured by much of all of history.

But half the pops so jaded to the gov that they wouldn’t listen, or wouldn’t out of spit or disbelief.  Also, the gov and it’s spokes people have been giving out paradoxical messages , literally.  So, it’s pretty schizophrenic.  On top of a deep mistrust rooted in actual memories of lies and deceit, things are pretty screwy.  To put it lightly.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26622023 - 04/23/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It's a beautiful example of the principle that rate of mutation is proportional to quantity of virus genetic material in the ecosystem.

The greater the number of people infected, the faster we see new strains appear.

@deuce I am getting used to the idea the COVID19 is just part of our lives now. It's the new flu.




That’s what I’ve been saying since feb ,  this is the new normal more or less.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] * 3
    #26622039 - 04/23/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Elizabeth Warrens brother just died of covid




That's just part of the liberal hoax. Hillary killed him so that we couldn't get haircuts.

I read it on infowars.com


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26622041 - 04/23/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What if this virus mutates too quickly and vaccines don't have 100% efficacity? What would lack of treatment implicate?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26622047 - 04/23/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

From what i heard.

Over the next 3 years we all get infected.
Some live and we build a natural immunity.
Within 3 years it should be good.
From history or something.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: watermelon mon]
    #26622049 - 04/23/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Jah!


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26622057 - 04/23/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What if this virus mutates too quickly and vaccines don't have 100% efficacity? What would lack of treatment implicate?




This is the case with seasonal flu and vaccines for it. Why would corona be any different?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #26622082 - 04/23/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That would mean some groups of people would likely die from it. The question is when.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: RebeccaBlack] * 1
    #26622123 - 04/23/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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In hindsight, what measures could have been taken that would have allowed the USA to re-open sooner?



If we had implemented the same measures we have now a week earlier, we would have started bending the curve when there were 10x fewer cases, two weeks earlier 100x fewer cases. Right now we have leveled off where we are seeing 2000+ deaths a day. When you are doubling cases every two or three days, acting earlier makes a huge difference in outcomes. Responding exactly the same way two weeks earlier and we’d likely be seeing fewer than 100 deaths a day, and probably have fewer than 100,000 cases. Those numbers are much more manageable with testing and contact tracing.

If we had simply learned lessons by observing what was happening and had happened in the rest of the world, we could have controlled the spread of infection without shutting down everything. Yes, situations that involve mass gatherings like bars, sporting events and concerts would have still had to be shit down, but regular day to day business could have continued fairly normally with people practicing better hygiene and awareness if we didn’t drop the ball on testing.

The shame about the US situation is we had the benefit of learning from the mistakes and successes elsewhere and should have been able to act appropriately. Unfortunately, the leadership was completely lacking and now we are all paying the price. The arrogance of watching what was unfolding in the rest of the world and behaving like somehow we were special and it wouldn’t happen here is the most egregious type of magical thinking I’ve ever witnessed.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
    #26622152 - 04/23/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder if this applies to New York city. The subway is the main hotspot for transmission. People can't really go around without public transportation.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] * 1
    #26622154 - 04/23/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Daijo said:
In hindsight, what measures could have been taken that would have allowed the USA to re-open sooner?



If we had implemented the same measures we have now a week earlier, we would have started bending the curve when there were 10x fewer cases, two weeks earlier 100x fewer cases. Right now we have leveled off where we are seeing 2000+ deaths a day. When you are doubling cases every two or three days, acting earlier makes a huge difference in outcomes. Responding exactly the same way two weeks earlier and we’d likely be seeing fewer than 100 deaths a day, and probably have fewer than 100,000 cases. Those numbers are much more manageable with testing and contact tracing.

If we had simply learned lessons by observing what was happening and had happened in the rest of the world, we could have controlled the spread of infection without shutting down everything. Yes, situations that involve mass gatherings like bars, sporting events and concerts would have still had to be shit down, but regular day to day business could have continued fairly normally with people practicing better hygiene and awareness if we didn’t drop the ball on testing.

The shame about the US situation is we had the benefit of learning from the mistakes and successes elsewhere and should have been able to act appropriately. Unfortunately, the leadership was completely lacking and now we are all paying the price. The arrogance of watching what was unfolding in the rest of the world and behaving like somehow we were special and it wouldn’t happen here is the most egregious type of magical thinking I’ve ever witnessed.





This will never not be true.  So elementary and obvious - yet missed by those who were voted into their positions in power in order to have the oversight and their power and resources at their disposal to be proactive over such just such a thing.  We can spend Trillions upon trillions on a military industrial complex when we’re not even at world war, as a preventative measure, and use it or pre emptive attacks and strikes before we’ve even been aggressed upon... but for this covid virus that hit many parts of the world with months of warning, they miss.  Talk about one of modern histories worst air-ball of all time, by the so called greatest super power in the world.  :rolleyes: 


Trump claims no responsibility, and whether he personally bares any or not is besides the matter,  he was voted into the highest office in the land - by virtue of that, the buck always is there.  He totally dropped the ball, in his own court no less, and now all his overlooked crap that people could put up with when the economy was doing Ok, has finally become crystal clear as being what it was all along - one giant shit show, and a train wreck waiting to happen, and now it has happened, and everyone will pay for it.  :mypoorbrain::regretthumbsup:

Go back to sleep America..:mib:  here’s $1,200 make it last for the next 3 years, oh and also - here’s a bunch of new approved medications for anxiety Nd depression and insomnia and schizophrenia , but these times must be trying!  Damn the Chinese commies!

Just for that here’s a new season of Game of Thrones and American Gladiator!!!  Also, snickers come in new flavors, and Ford F-150s are on super discount.... get em while it’s hot.


:justastonishing:

  Those who are to be held responsible , either had their hands too deep in someone’s pockets or some scheme or their own little minds to see the big picture, or had their heads in the sand or up their ass, or just simply stood upon the railroad tracks as they slowly watched in arrogance or ignorance as the Choo choo Train came hurtling at them - in sight for months, without moving those they are responsible for (the public) off the tracks for their own protection, basically - you had one ultimate job - and you get paid for it - and it didn’t get done until the damage was already done.  Economic shut down, and friends and families and coworkers and neighbors dead, sick, out of a job, or confused as fuck and going crazy...just hanging on.

Gg ....gg...


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