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Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe 1
#26619041 - 04/22/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just a standard PF Tek grow journal from a newbie. The only noteable deviations from the Tek as it is written are that I used half a cup more water than recommended, inadvertently, and I also steam sterilized my jars on a stove top, as I did not have access to a pressure cooker at the time.
To steam sterilize, I place the jars in a pot, raised off the bottom of the pot, and submerged 1 inch in the water. After the jars were situated securely in the pot, I brought the water to a boil, and then lowered the temperature a medium-low setting, put a lid on top of the pot, and let the jars bathe in the steam bath for 90 minutes. I then removed the pot from the heat source, with the lid still on top of it, and let it set for 24 hours to give any remaining bacteria the opportunity to germinate. Then I repeat the steam bath for 2 hours. Remove from heat source to cool approximately 2 hours, and proceed to inoculation. I know this sounds like overkill, but I feel like there's no reason to not do this if you are unable to procure a pressure cooker.
So far, all I have are pictures of colonizing jars, and my prepped SGFC with BRF cakes already dunked and rolled effective 11pm this evening. Time to let Mother Nature take her course.
I will be spawning whole rice 9er Tek to a monotub here in the future. My jar of rice just showed healthy mycelium growth a week after MS inoculation, but feel free to check back here for updates. I'll be posting the shroomporn when the first flush begins.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde]
#26619477 - 04/22/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Humidity is up to 99%. Temp idling around 70 degrees. Input?
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde]
#26619564 - 04/22/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Throw that humidity/temperature meter out, it's just going to make you overmaintain the cakes and fuck things up. Just touch the top layer of perlite and give a mist if it's dry.
I'd probably put those cakes closer to each other.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: poisoned]
#26620192 - 04/22/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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poisoned said: Throw that humidity/temperature meter out, it's just going to make you overmaintain the cakes and fuck things up. Just touch the top layer of perlite and give a mist if it's dry.
I'd probably put those cakes closer to each other.
Can I ask why you recommend moving them closer together? How does it benefit the fruiting environment? It seems to me that would increase concentrations of co2 (probably not huge, I was just under the understanding that "co2 bad.") So I figured more spacing would be ideal. Thanks for the suggestion.
I will keep the hygrometer in the the sgfc for now. I only fan twice a day as recommended, and only mist once daily in the morning. The hygrometer is in place only so I can monitor the fruiting environment. Namely the temperature as the sgfc is currently placed in an area that doesnt receive as much heat as the rest of the room. I will make sure I dont fan or mist excessively.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde] 1
#26620252 - 04/22/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks good! I have never had an issue with spacing. You should fan and mist three or four times a day. What I found that works great is a fish tank bubbler with the stone in the center buried under the perlite. Gives humidity and fresh air and removes the need for fanning and misting.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: Mushit]
#26620389 - 04/22/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushit said: Looks good! I have never had an issue with spacing. You should fan and mist three or four times a day. What I found that works great is a fish tank bubbler with the stone in the center buried under the perlite. Gives humidity and fresh air and removes the need for fanning and misting. 
Hey, thanks for the advice. That sounds like a nice alternative for a little automation I'd like to look a little more into. Are you talking about an airstone when you say 'fish tank bubbler'? I'm trying to picture it in my mind's eye, and don't understand what generates the humidity, or how perlite doesn't get inside it if it's under the perlite?
I came home early this afternoon, as this is my first time back at it in 10 years, and I wanted to be sure everything was going well. Humidity had dropped from 99% to 76% in about 5 hours. So your advice about fanning and misting is greatly appreciated. I greatly underestimated it, as it maintained 99% humidity overnight last night.
Thanks again for the input!
Edit: When I checked on my sgfc when I got home, I noticed mycelial growth already poking through the casing layer in half the cakes. :> :>
Edited by brocepheushyde (04/22/20 04:08 PM)
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde] 1
#26623045 - 04/23/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The air pump creates a positive pressure which helps keep the perlite out. Also, the perlite should be wet and this is what keeps the humidity up.
Sounds like it is going according to plan.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: Mushit]
#26623223 - 04/23/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushit said: The air pump creates a positive pressure which helps keep the perlite out. Also, the perlite should be wet and this is what keeps the humidity up.
Sounds like it is going according to plan. 
The moving air doesn't dry out the perlite either? Definitely checking this out.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde]
#26625365 - 04/24/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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As long as there is a small layer of water on the bottom of the tub, like 1/8" or so, it won't dry out. Perlite is an excellent wick. Be sure to use a bit of H2O2 mixed with the water to help curb contams.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: Mushit] 3
#26625536 - 04/24/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is this post from 2001?
Air pump isn't needed if you have holes in the bottom of your tub. SGFC works off of the natural air currents in the room. Cakes should be spaced as close together as possible they will create a micro climate and it will help with pinning.
Just fan and mist. You can directly mist the cakes it won't hurt them.
H2o2 will not help because it will evaporate the hydrogen molecule before it does anything in your water. It is a waste and perilite doesn't Contaminate unless there is something nutrious on it.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26638046 - 04/30/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Starting to pin, heres some porn for ya guys. I know ky temp is running low in there, but I read on here that fruiting on the lower end of the acceptable temperature range will cause slower fruiting but also result in meatier boomers, so I didnt bother fixing the issue. Its been a week since I birthed them and put them in the sgfc, which I believe is common expectation.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde] 1
#26638064 - 04/30/20 01:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would easy up on the misting. Your cakes look saturated. What temp is your room at right now?
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26640114 - 04/30/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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67 degrees. I mist the walls twice a day, the cakes get indirectly misted once every cpl days but to the point where they are soaked. They had just been misted prior to taking these photos.
Edited by brocepheushyde (04/30/20 11:13 PM)
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde] 1
#26644924 - 05/03/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde] 1
#26645601 - 05/03/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Photos taken less than 24 hours apart.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde] 1
#26645745 - 05/03/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Very cool! Doing great! Nice work
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26648207 - 05/04/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I noticed some discoloration on the cakes this morning. I seem to remember that this blue-ish discoloration is stress to the mycelium, and it's likely ready to be dunked for the second flush soon. I still have some shrooms growing off of them though. Will the cakes be okay until the mushies have finished growing and the veils break? Or should I pick the smaller mushrooms off of it and dunk them all now? Do I roll them after I dunk them for the second flush?
I harvested the ones I deemed harvest-worthy. There are still a lot of smaller mushies finishing out Flush 1.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde] 1
#26648400 - 05/04/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Up your misting and wait for it to finish.
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: poisoned]
#26648460 - 05/04/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Re: Bro's Amateur B+ Cubensis PF Tek from MS spore syringe [Re: brocepheushyde]
#26658201 - 05/08/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Post-Dunk: Is this normal?
Here's an update as to what's going on. Any input would be great.
I harvested the first flush and put them on top of newspaper in front of a fan set on low, while I wait on my dehydrator to get here. This is them this afternoon, pretty dry. I'm still going to run them through the dehydrator when it gets here, for good measure.
Edited by brocepheushyde (05/08/20 07:07 PM)
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