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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Enlil]
    #26649281 - 05/04/20 11:57 PM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

So every country in the world should be able to have nuclear weapons?

There are about 100 reasons why that that is a bad idea.

Namely:
Nuclear disasters.

Nuclear proliferation.

Nuclear blackmail.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26649292 - 05/05/20 12:03 AM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

If they are able to build them themselves, thats their business.  Let them try and fail imo.  The reprocussions would be the end of their reign.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26649299 - 05/05/20 12:06 AM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

Israel has long been afraid, the NORKS getting nuclear weapons would further embolden Iran.

When Somalia or Afghan rebels get ahold nuclear technology and ICBMs, are we just supposed to negotiate with a bunch of islamic fundamentalists that want to destroy America and most of the west?


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26649302 - 05/05/20 12:07 AM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

I don't see the U.S. giving up its nuclear arsenal.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: meltdowner]
    #26649304 - 05/05/20 12:10 AM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

This technology isnt new though.....

Thermonuclear weapons and ICBMs have been around since the 50s.....

The repercussion will be ours when someone fanatical enough shoots a nuclear weapon at a major U.S city.

THAAD and all those other ABM systems are a false sense of security.

THAAD shot down 2/10 missiles in perfect conditions.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26649310 - 05/05/20 12:14 AM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

That's just the reality.  There's no way to uninvent thermonuclear weapons.  They will proliferate further, and one day, they will be used against a civilian population.  You may as well stop worrying and learn to love the bomb.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Enlil]
    #26649318 - 05/05/20 12:17 AM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

:strangelove:


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Enlil]
    #26649328 - 05/05/20 12:23 AM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

https://www.wagingpeace.org/the-effects-of-a-300-kiloton-nuclear-warhead-detonated-above-washington-d-c/


This is a brief description of the effects which a single average sized strategic nuclear weapon would have if detonated above the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. (dozens of such weapons are probably targeted upon D.C. by Russia). The warhead has an explosive power of 300 kilotons (kT), equaling 600 million pounds of dynamite and would be detonated at an altitude of 1500 feet above its target.

A 300 kT warhead would within a millionth of a second release 300 trillion calories of energy primarily in the form of intense light. The surrounding air would be superheated and create a rapidly expanding fireball. Almost all the air within and around the fireball would be compressed into a steeply fronted luminous blast wave of enormous extent and power.

The fireball would extend more than a mile in diameter and at its center produce temperatures of over 200 million degrees Fahrenheit, about four to five times the temperature found at the center of the sun. This unearthly release of heat and energy would create an environment of unimaginable lethality, igniting extensive fires for many tens of square miles and producing a blast wave which would crush and tear apart any structures in its path. The blast wave would also increase the incidence and rate of fire spread by exposing ignitable surfaces, releasing flammable materials and dispersing burning objects.

At Pentagon City, a shopping and office complex 0.7 miles from ground zero at the Pentagon, light from the fireball would melt asphalt in the streets, burn paint off walls, and melt metal surfaces within a half second of detonation. The interior of vehicles in line of sight of the fireball would explode into flames.

About one second later, the blast wave and 750 miles per hour (mph) winds would arrive and toss burning and disintegrating vehicles into the air like leaves in a wind. The blast wave could cave in buildings and would turn windows and furniture into missiles and shrapnel. The interiors of buildings that remained standing would, within minutes, be burning pyres of splintered walls, doors and other combustibles. Seconds after the passage of the blast wave, suction effects created in part by the rising fireball would reverse the winds, drawing them toward the detonation point at perhaps 50 – 70 mph.

All the areas within 1.3 miles of the Pentagon (almost all of the Arlington National Cemetery, most of the Virginia Highlands and Addison Heights neighborhoods, and parts of Washington D.C. reaching to the Lincoln and Jefferson memorials) would experience more than 15 times the thermal energy found at the edge of the mass fire which destroyed Hiroshima. The fireball here would, for a moment, shine 5,000 times brighter than a desert sun at noon.

To hell with the children right?

The really scary thing is 300kt is nothing.

The largest nuke ever detonated was the soviet unions "czar bomba"
50 megatons.

It was half as powerful as it could have been and was over 1500 times more powerful that the Hiroshima bomb.


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Edited by Buckomcdoogle (05/05/20 12:27 AM)


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26649337 - 05/05/20 12:27 AM (27 days, 18 hours ago)

Yeah, fuck the children.  This is why it's cruel to have children.  You can rest assured that thermonuclear weapons will be used on a civilian population.  It's inevitable.  There's nothing you, I, or anyone else can do to stop it.  The best course of action is to stop procreating, let humans die out, and hope the next evolutionary step brings us a smarter species.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Enlil]
    #26649410 - 05/05/20 01:32 AM (27 days, 17 hours ago)

In all honestly I agree, Imo having kids at this day in age is simply irresponsible.

All of us with the least bit of sense know that things aren't going to get any better.

There's weed killer (glyphosate) in 2/3s of our food supply.

90%+ of Americans have BPA collecting in their gut.

Anyone born after the 1940's has nuclear isotopes built into their tissue.

"Logic leads to nihilism"

"We are all destined to rot"


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Edited by Buckomcdoogle (05/05/20 01:33 AM)


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26650119 - 05/05/20 10:58 AM (27 days, 8 hours ago)

The problem with having a kid in this day and age is that you can't make them work 16 hour days like the good old days.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: christopera]
    #26650124 - 05/05/20 11:01 AM (27 days, 8 hours ago)

If it's your own kid, You can.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26650186 - 05/05/20 11:38 AM (27 days, 7 hours ago)

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Yeah, fuck the children.  This is why it's cruel to have children.  You can rest assured that thermonuclear weapons will be used on a civilian population.  It's inevitable.  There's nothing you, I, or anyone else can do to stop it.  The best course of action is to stop procreating, let humans die out, and hope the next evolutionary step brings us a smarter species.





why not enjoy your experience why your here instead of hoping for it and everone elses to end? Life is finite as it is.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26650190 - 05/05/20 11:42 AM (27 days, 7 hours ago)

That's my whole point.  Life is too awesome to worry about small shit like thermonuclear holocaust.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26650211 - 05/05/20 11:52 AM (27 days, 7 hours ago)

Facts

Nothing you could do to prevent it and its going to happen. The planet will be fine the people are fucked.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26650358 - 05/05/20 12:48 PM (27 days, 6 hours ago)

Why do people always say  the planet will be fine ? If we drop so many nukes that it makes  the planet uninhabitable for us it will be uninhabitable for most other life forms as well .


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26650379 - 05/05/20 12:55 PM (27 days, 6 hours ago)

It will make due, just not like we know, that’s what is meant by it.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26650393 - 05/05/20 01:00 PM (27 days, 6 hours ago)

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Why do people always say  the planet will be fine ? If we drop so many nukes that it makes  the planet uninhabitable for us it will be uninhabitable for most other life forms as well .



Fuck other life forms.  The planet doesn't need them either.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26650530 - 05/05/20 01:56 PM (27 days, 5 hours ago)

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Why do people always say  the planet will be fine ? If we drop so many nukes that it makes  the planet uninhabitable for us it will be uninhabitable for most other life forms as well .





Give it a billion years it'll be fine.


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Re: Kim Jung Un mostly dead according to US Intel sources [Re: Enlil]
    #26650542 - 05/05/20 01:59 PM (27 days, 5 hours ago)

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Why do people always say  the planet will be fine ? If we drop so many nukes that it makes  the planet uninhabitable for us it will be uninhabitable for most other life forms as well .



Fuck other life forms.  The planet doesn't need them either.



99% of the life that has ever existed is extinct and we think we are fuckin special? We think we are the exception and are going to change something, no.


Its the way its always been. We'll phase out soon enough.


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