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My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years
    #26616021 - 04/20/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hi all.

Been meaning to post more on this board for awhile.  As I am thankful it's been a good resource for being a psychonaut.  And allot of people have given me great advice.

I did my first trip in the beginning of 2016.  Now almost 4.5 years later, I consider myself pretty experienced now.  I posted my first trip experience here :

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22724174

And I wanted to share how my experiences have changed over the 4.5 years and wondering if people have had similar evolutions.

1) I no longer get visuals : Even after doing Hero doses of 5gs I don't seem to get light distortions or as many close eyed visuals or Geometric patterns.  Kind of miss these.  However I do see things in high definition and great clarity.  So if I'm watching something on TV it looks like that thing or personis really in front of me.

2) My trips by majority tend to be dark : "Fractaloctopus" alluded to this effect in my first post that I linked to above.  Definetely more of my trips tend to be towards the dark side of my unconscious.  And sometimes take me down painful routes initially.  I sort of miss the hunky dory days where it felt like I had a cheat code to Nirvana and just felt great sense of love and compassion.  However I welcome these experiences.  Because while they initially might be dark, they are good for me and have positive effects on me afterwards where I have more empathy, love and compassion for others in the end.

3) Spirits talk to me : This particularly started happening in about 2018 after about 2 years of tripping.  I felt like I could feel spirits or inner voices talking to me.  I had no belief in Spirits before using psychedelics and didn't know where I stood on the matter.  Like when I would be watching a show, they would be answering conversations in my head based on the actions on what is happening on TV.  While I could not see anyone with my eyes open.  When I close my eyes I could see some Googly eyed face.  Which after research I felt looked like Mahakala.  Which is considered the Manifestation on the Hindu Destroyer god Shiva.  Which his form is called Mahakala in Tibetan buddhism and Daikokuten in Japan (Image) - I have mixed feelings to this as sometimes these spirits would take me down dark routes.  Which I alluded to above ended up being thereupeutic after the trips were over.  And they helped me, particularly in that year when I was dealing with allot of manipulative people at work and allowing me to see in between the lines.  And allowed me to beat them at their game by creating Technology Products that would catch the attention of the company.  But eventually, I went through a process the following year of rejecting them feeling scared where they will take me.  Now I found they seem to have a peaceful place with me, as I have accepted them and accepted their help with the understanding that we will always strive for better and more compassionate ways.  When I started to make direct prayers to Shiva (I had no belief in Shiva or spirits or gods before this mind you - only after research).  I would find they would be "well behaved"

3) Tolerance has definetely increased : I kind of missed the days where I would take 2 grams and be up in the clouds.  Now I find even 3+ grams is not enough. 

Couple variables in my environment that go along with how I have been exploring my psych last couple years

1) Always do them alone in the closed environment.  Lock the door and I make sure I don't go out and I turn off my phone, so I don't make any stupid decisions in the moment.

2) Usually take them every 2 weeks.  Over the 4.5 years their would be times where I would take breaks from this regularly for even 6 months at a time, as I felt they were getting too intense.  But now pretty much even a challenging trip to me is "meh".  It's nothing more than watching a scary movie that I know will pass and I can consciously tell myself during the trip it's good for me.  So I now look forward to it every 2 weeks as my period to get back in touch with myself

3) I am regular meditator.  Been meditating daily now for almost 5 years.  This particularly helps during difficult trips in maintain composure and control.  Particularly I find now after years of meditation, I sometimes experience light "psychedelic" experiences without being on anything that help me get outside of the ego like shrooms.  The goal of course would be to get some of the experiences I get with meditation like I do Shrooms.  I consider shrooms like my temporary cheat code to show me what is possible with my mind.

4) I am always ritual the process.  I usually clean my place before each trip.  Do Tai Chi and Yoga before hand (As I find it enhances the experience).  Do a prayer for positive insight.  Then meditate right before I do my drop.  And then usually plop myself on the couch, put on some headphones and listen some music that inspires me and let me mind go.  Keeping a pen and paper close to me for any thoughts I want to write down.

Anyone that's about it.  Curious to see if others have had similar evolutions during their Shroomery explorations.


Edited by Gandu (04/20/20 09:25 PM)


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Gandu]
    #26616411 - 04/20/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I did my first trip in the beginning of 2006.  Now almost 4.5 years later...




Hm.

*starts counting on his fingers*

Yeh, I don’t think so, bud.

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Good read. Bad math. LoL


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26616421 - 04/20/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Whoops.  Yeah I meant 2016.  Gonna edit this.

I guess I'm still trippin and doing psychedelic math.


Edited by Gandu (04/20/20 09:26 PM)


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Gandu]
    #26616832 - 04/21/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

what is your cannabis evolution (hate that word here) and how might that relate to your visuals?


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Gandu]
    #26625174 - 04/24/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I always need my whole house spotlessly clean before I trip as well. Never thought of it as a ritual though that's interesting.

One time I didn't clean and tidy before tripping (due to an impulsive last minute decision to trip on 2 tabs of acid) and it was a confusing anxious trip where i constantly felt like I had forgotten something important, made worse by my house being a bit messy. It made for a disorienting, regretful trip. I can see why these substances have always been used in ritualistic settings. It's so important to prepare your mind before stepping in.

Thanks for the interesting read man


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: MychaelJackson]
    #26625247 - 04/24/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

psychedelics are the reward for cleaning up your act, or keeping it clean and ready.


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26633056 - 04/27/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
what is your cannabis evolution (hate that word here) and how might that relate to your visuals?




After I started doing Shrooms.  I read here that edible Marijuana was a psychedelic shortly after.

I smoked allot of weed as a teengar in the past.  But ultimately didn't like it because it made me think too much.  And already I think too much and hyper analytical.

In any case had some good experiences for about a year, until one day had a really bad trip on edible Marijuana.  THink my dealer was high and forgot if he put weed in the cookie so double dosed it.  Because I took the same half cookie I usually had.

Felt like I was having a heart attack and seriously thought it was the end of me and I was going to die.  I remember closing my eyes and thinking, okay this is it.  This is where its going to end.  Then woke up the next day fine and figured I just had a paranoia attack. 

In any case it scared me off edible Marijuana for a long time.  Because even on bad trips with Shrooms never felt like that like I physically having a heart attack.  Just more mental, like psychosis (ie. like when doing a hero tirp of 5gs) which I ultimately handled.

I live in Canada and Marijuana is now legable.  So been experimenting with it again by taking oils and now knowing the precise amount.  Haven't had any real trips though, just been microdosing and ramping it up to see where my comfortable level is.

But before my bad cannabis trip, I usually would do Cannabis on my "off" weeks with Shrooms.  Ie.  Shrooms one week, cannabis the next.  Giving the 2 week break from Shrooms.

Being a Musician, I loved how I always pick up on things in music that I never would usually and get some good musical ideas.

So in short, I am slowly introducing again back into my cycles.  Gives me insight, but never has been as profound as the insights on shrooms.


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: MychaelJackson]
    #26633071 - 04/27/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I always need my whole house spotlessly clean before I trip as well. Never thought of it as a ritual though that's interesting.

One time I didn't clean and tidy before tripping (due to an impulsive last minute decision to trip on 2 tabs of acid) and it was a confusing anxious trip where i constantly felt like I had forgotten something important, made worse by my house being a bit messy. It made for a disorienting, regretful trip. I can see why these substances have always been used in ritualistic settings. It's so important to prepare your mind before stepping in.

Thanks for the interesting read man





Yeah I got that "ritual" from the Shinto / Zen rituals.  Which they believe that cleansiness is what the gods like and a way to pay proper respect to them.  Which you feel a certain unknown energy in Japan from the cleansiness of the shrines as a result.

And usually I find cleaning helps me focus in general.  Ie. if I have some tough work ahead of me.  Doing things like cleaning my desk helps keep clean focus ahead.  Those 10 minutes spent, I usually get that time back from being focused.  Also its a principal in Feng Shui, where you are moving active energy around rather than having dead Sha energy from cleaning.  Which likely the Japanese received some influence from this principal described above.

Having said that, even if I am having a bad trip.  I find clean surroundings helps me focus or stay grounded during the event.  Helping me find my center with a little less chaos around me by having a non distracting surroundings.


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Gandu]
    #26633097 - 04/27/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you don't get visuals on high doses your shrooms are bunk.  If you're growing your own it's time to start some fresh strains.  If you're buying them it's time to grow them.  Then you select for the best strains and propagate those.  :cookiemonster:


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Gandu]
    #26633674 - 04/28/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

so, where I was going, as regards cannabis, is that when mixed with shrooms, the nature of visuals changes from patina, sparkle and shades to more full blown psychedelia, following the theme of whatever is on your mind.


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26633692 - 04/28/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If you don't get visuals on high doses your shrooms are bunk.  If you're growing your own it's time to start some fresh strains.  If you're buying them it's time to grow them.  Then you select for the best strains and propagate those.  :cookiemonster:




I'm not sure that it's.  As I have tried from various sources and the results are the same across the board now in terms of no visuals.


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26633696 - 04/28/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
so, where I was going, as regards cannabis, is that when mixed with shrooms, the nature of visuals changes from patina, sparkle and shades to more full blown psychedelia, following the theme of whatever is on your mind.





Ahh good to know, thanks :smile:  Might try that once I start getting a good idea of what exactely are my safe dosages with edible Cannabis.


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Gandu]
    #26633989 - 04/28/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

and smoking is not acceptable once in a while, because...?


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Gandu]
    #26634296 - 04/28/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If you don't get visuals on high doses your shrooms are bunk.  If you're growing your own it's time to start some fresh strains.  If you're buying them it's time to grow them.  Then you select for the best strains and propagate those.  :cookiemonster:




I'm not sure that it's.  As I have tried from various sources and the results are the same across the board now in terms of no visuals.




There's no way to be sure.  It's also possible that what you had in the past was unusually strong and you actually have high natural tolerance.  It happens pretty often apparently.  Dosage varies for different people, but only rarely does it change over time regardless of consumption.  There can be other factors affecting this, like diet - and of course psych drugs are well known to affect tripping.


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26634880 - 04/28/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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and smoking is not acceptable once in a while, because...?




I'm not sure why.  But when I smoke I get munchies to the point of not being able to control and just eating myself into oblivion.  And don't want to gain unnecessary weight.

Whereas when I eat edible Cannabis.  While food taste great and I get hungry.  It's easily manageable, whereas I go the whole Cannabis trip easily and not indulge myself in food.


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Re: My Evolution of Tripping for the Last 4.5 years [Re: Gandu]
    #26635149 - 04/28/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Gandu said:
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and smoking is not acceptable once in a while, because...?




I'm not sure why.  But when I smoke I get munchies to the point of not being able to control and just eating myself into oblivion.  And don't want to gain unnecessary weight.

Whereas when I eat edible Cannabis.  While food taste great and I get hungry.  It's easily manageable, whereas I go the whole Cannabis trip easily and not indulge myself in food.




I don't know.  My body I feel works differently than other people I feel.  I've always been fairly athletic and notice my body can often do things beyond the norm and have a higher will power to push myself.  And I have unusually high tolerance for alchohol as well.

And I've never gotten things like the Shroom Hangover that people talk about.

As far as diet, I'm a vegatarian, so don't know if that has anything to do with it.


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