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#26615370 - 04/20/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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My Spirit Guide called me to him just now and made me the offer to make a wish, any wish, and he would make it so for me.
I asked for Humanity to reach a state of Unity as fast as possible, that enables us to save as much of the life of earth as possible in such a way that we would spread it among the stars through starbases and (terraformed) planets.
He told me he'd make it so and told me that COVID-19 will now have a markedly lower death toll that 500 million and that the limited nuclear exchange between the US and Russia will not happen - for me.
He reminded me we live in the many worlds multiverse where both outcomes (humanity becoming extinct and becoming an interstellar society) are equally valid and they will both manifest from the Void of All Things, but that I basically "hopped from the extinction bus onto the galactic society bus."
I asked him what I should do to make it so.
He said, "with your wish, you just did. Your hopes and dreams, fears and doubts, make you navigate the Many Worlds Multiverse."
Awe.
Guys, if in your world the death toll of COVID-19 reaches 500 million in the next 2 years, get the fuck out of the USA or Russia right away. I'll be there with you, just not the same instance of me as the one writing this now.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26615405 - 04/20/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great movie.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Whyterye]
#26615407 - 04/20/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sure was
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#26615409 - 04/20/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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#26615417 - 04/20/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Coulda had infinite wishes.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26615483 - 04/20/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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My wife and I asked the I Ching how we should approach life once everything starts to open back up, since we live with a few higher-risk people and have a lot of decisions to make once she can't work from home anymore and I need to return to work/school. Interesting response. I'm never one to believe much in these things, but giving way to a little positivity can't hurt. The I Ching has been eerily spot on in the few times I've used it in the past.


If you can't see the pics, essentially the answer was once we go back to school/work, the period of darkness will be over and there's a whole lot of good to come, but a lot of it will come only through inner work. It also says to not take on too much too soon and opt for smaller projects instead, which is pretty relevant when we were weighing whether to start construction on our house when things open up or not.
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#26615516 - 04/20/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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but can you blow away COVID 19 with the wind of god?
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Envix]
#26615548 - 04/20/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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COVID-19 IS the wind of God.
With my wish I had bigger fish to fry.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26616220 - 04/20/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you
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#26616236 - 04/20/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Beutiful wish.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26616251 - 04/20/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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COVID-19 IS the wind of God.
With my wish I had bigger fish to fry.
It's nice to seem some aspects of humans never change, like fairy tales.
If God is real, ask why make life to begin with? Seems like God was drunk at that point.
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If you can't see the pics, essentially the answer was once we go back to school/work, the period of darkness will be over and there's a whole lot of good to come, but a lot of it will come only through inner work. It also says to not take on too much too soon and opt for smaller projects instead, which is pretty relevant when we were weighing whether to start construction on our house when things open up or not.
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#26616479 - 04/20/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is the same Spirit Guide that told you about an impending nuclear crisis that will kill tens if not hundreds of millions and you didn't wish for that to not happen?
Next time he better tell you the nuke is headed for your hometown
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#26616487 - 04/20/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edit: I've been enough of an ass today. Carry on.
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#26616493 - 04/20/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you can't see the pics, essentially the answer was once we go back to school/work, the period of darkness will be over and there's a whole lot of good to come, but a lot of it will come only through inner work. It also says to not take on too much too soon and opt for smaller projects instead, which is pretty relevant when we were weighing whether to start construction on our house when things open up or not.
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I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs
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#26616511 - 04/20/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs

I’d rather let him believe his “spirit guide” is real and let him stay in the dream world.
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I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs

I’d rather let him believe his “spirit guide” is real and let him stay in the dream world.
ehhhh, real or not, he has spoken a lot lately about accepting darkness as necessary for growth and balancing the light and now he is saying that because he had a happy wish to altruistically help humanity, his spirit guide moved him to a universe where he will not have to witness the suffering he expected to, in order to take part in accelerated progress
so the darkness and foulness balancing life are to be the concerns of some other Asante, or, perhaps a Wiccan_Seeker being prodded by a SweatLeafSamadhi in a universe where Shroomery never implemented name changes
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#26616544 - 04/20/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs

I’d rather let him believe his “spirit guide” is real and let him stay in the dream world.
ehhhh, real or not, he has spoken a lot lately about accepting darkness as necessary for growth and balancing the light and now he is saying that because he had a happy wish to altruistically help humanity, his spirit guide moved him to a universe where he will not have to witness the suffering he expected to, in order to take part in accelerated progress
so the darkness and foulness balancing life are to be the concerns of some other Asante, or, perhaps a Wiccan_Seeker being prodded by a SweatLeafSamadhi in a universe where Shroomery never implemented name changes 

Reminds me of that series Devs I just watched on Hulu. It's basically a multiverse where there's like an infinite number of realities/worlds that we occupy. And this one we're in now is just one of zillion.

who the hell knows maybe there's a world/universe on the other end of the spectrum where zZZz tells everyone that he hates them
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Tantrika]
#26616553 - 04/20/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm thankful with the life I have now.
It would be cool, going to a better parallel universe though.
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Next time he better tell you the nuke is headed for your hometown

I see wishing for unity as wishing that not to happen. Even better, it's like wishing for world peace. I wish people out there were friendlier. Cant bring myself to fake a smile.
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Next time he better tell you the nuke is headed for your hometown

I see wishing unity as wishing that not to happen. Even better, it's like wishing for world peace.
He could have wished no version of himself would witness the nuclear event, which would save lives across the multiverse and increase the Unity of more troubled universes rather than jumping ship to greener pastures to leave other universes to suffer the kaboom

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#26616566 - 04/20/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Used Car Spirit Guide Asante: "I want unity, peace, and the betterment of humankind" Spirit Guide: "Best I can do is a universe swap so you don't have to ride the downhill wave"
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#26616590 - 04/20/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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There must be something in the air in the Netherlands and I want in!
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#26616596 - 04/20/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Reminds me of that series Devs I just watched on Hulu. It's basically a multiverse where there's like an infinite number of realities/worlds that we occupy. And this one we're in now is just one of zillion.

who the hell knows maybe there's a world/universe on the other end of the spectrum where zZZz tells everyone that he hates them 
Have studied and played around with multiverse theory in other ways it has a really interesting rendition in early Zen Buddhism where it refers to each enlightened being having a "Buddha-field" around them and those unenlightened beings that inhabit their universe are in varying proximity to the Buddha while also implying that each unenlightened being has its own universe, and that universes interpenetrate with each other this becomes a lot more complex and defined in Pure Land Buddhism
it really interested me at the time, because my Physics class was going over the Hubble Sphere which is a science-based idea that each individual point of reference has a slightly variable "universe" due to a shifting of the Hubble Sphere (defined as the furthest observerable distance from a point)
this has come up as interest for me again in more recent years as the Dark Souls series extensively employs a perception of interpenetrating universes as its means of implementing multiplayer systems in the game where you can invite others into your universe to have them help you; or aggressively invade the universe of another to exploit them for their power but the universe itself is always nearly identical, the thing that changes is the player character's degree of transience in being able to impact and make lasting change to that universe
in Wiccan/Neo-Pagan magic, universes are traversable through a portal as a means of conveyance this may tie in to perceptions of the Fae and how they can access and leave our world but it also gets used in ritual purposes where you remove yourself far from society to a natural portal (such as an opening or pathway between trees far away from your home) then you summon up a traversal, and move into the new universe in pschological terms, this is used as a way to conciously abandon and leave behind negative habits -- stepping through the portal, if it does not transport you anywhere, cleanses your mind of attachment to what you want to leave behind if you choose to let it
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Tantrika]
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I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs

I’d rather let him believe his “spirit guide” is real and let him stay in the dream world.
ehhhh, real or not, he has spoken a lot lately about accepting darkness as necessary for growth and balancing the light and now he is saying that because he had a happy wish to altruistically help humanity, his spirit guide moved him to a universe where he will not have to witness the suffering he expected to, in order to take part in accelerated progress
so the darkness and foulness balancing life are to be the concerns of some other Asante, or, perhaps a Wiccan_Seeker being prodded by a SweatLeafSamadhi in a universe where Shroomery never implemented name changes 
You can’t balance darkness and light because it’s the measurement of one thing.
I don’t think you should humor his delusions like this. Also the Many Worlds hypothesis is hardly reality, it’s just one interpretation of quantum mechanics.
The universe isn’t in balance, it’s a dynamic chaos that somehow manages to work out, until heat death that is
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Also that interpretation of the Many Worlds sounds too much like solipsism
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Which one? Asante's, Zen Buddhism, Pure Land Buddhism, my bastardization of the Hubble Sphere which may not even be relevant anymore because of what China was doing with viewing technology
The Dark Souls interpretation is totally valid, can log in to my game and have other players interact with it freely but that is more a matter of microcosm and macrocosm where being invaded by another player in game stifles my progress and makes me feel bad in the real world which dulls my perception of reality around me
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Which one? Asante's, Zen Buddhism, Pure Land Buddhism, my bastardization of the Hubble Sphere which may not even be relevant anymore because of what China was doing with viewing technology
The Dark Souls interpretation is totally valid, can log in to my game and have other players interact with it freely but that is more a matter of microcosm and macrocosm where being invaded by another player in game stifles my progress and makes me feel bad in the real world which dulls my perception of reality around me
or the loose Wiccan/Pagan representation of Fae
Most of them, more the dark souls one than the others. But dark souls is just a game, it doesn’t apply here. It would be like when I played Nioh 2 and entered the dark realm with the yokai.
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Which one? Asante's, Zen Buddhism, Pure Land Buddhism, my bastardization of the Hubble Sphere which may not even be relevant anymore because of what China was doing with viewing technology
The Dark Souls interpretation is totally valid, can log in to my game and have other players interact with it freely but that is more a matter of microcosm and macrocosm where being invaded by another player in game stifles my progress and makes me feel bad in the real world which dulls my perception of reality around me
or the loose Wiccan/Pagan representation of Fae
Most of them, more the dark souls one than the others. But dark souls is just a game, it doesn’t apply here. It would be like when I played Nioh 2 and entered the dark realm with the yokai.
my comprehension of solipsism is not very complete but the Dark Souls representation would imply that there is a relatively concrete observable reality independent of the individual tho do recognize that there is an instancing that takes place on a per-character basis
also, would not apply to Dark Souls played offline like a casul
but the reason it piqued my interest with regards to various multiverse theories, is because From Software puts a lot of Japanese icongraphy and mythological perceptions into their titles so it reflects on things like how Buddhist philosophy from hundreds of years ago is viewed in the modern lens
become good enough at the right games tho, and you can use it to finance raising a family
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I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs

Buncha fire and brimstone.
You forget that in my universe, all people are one so that I'm also the victim of every atrocity ever as well as the perpetrator of them.
I'm every victim of COVID including my aunt.
I'm on a mission to learn a metaphor for this universe that can be condensed into a book that can used by many to alleviate the pain of their existance.
For this reason I'm given many dilemmas and choices between scenarios, have been since childhood.
Please don't wish harm on me.
I could have wished for a ton of gold but I wished for something for Humanity entirely, to become a galactic society, so that all the life of earth can spread.
And for this wish you want to see me dead?
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
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I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs

Buncha fire and brimstone.
You forget that in my universe, all people are one so that I'm also the victim of every atrocity ever as well as the perpetrator of them.
I'm every victim of COVID including my aunt.
I'm on a mission to learn a metaphor for this universe that can be condensed into a book that can used by many to alleviate the pain of their existance.
For this reason I'm given many dilemmas and choices between scenarios, have been since childhood.
Please don't wish harm on me.
I could have wished for a ton of gold but I wished for something for Humanity entirely, to become a galactic society, so that all the life of earth can spread.
And for this wish you want to see me dead?
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this has not gotten any +1s in 8 hours which tells me y'all slept on this movie

hokey sci-fi premise, great fights
super cop Jet Li discovers he is growing more and more powerful in seemingly supernatural ways and then also discovers that it is because super villian Jet Li is going from universe to universe killing all the other versions of himself and that the fewer there are in existence across the multiverse, the more powerful the remaining one(s) become
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Tantrika]
#26616878 - 04/21/20 06:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sounds like Last Hope or Noein. Sorta.
Think I watched The One a long time ago.
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The Blind Ass said: Sounds like Last Hope or Noein. Sorta.
Think I watched The One a long time ago.
My Opa took myself and my cousin to see it in the theater when it came out was a big fan of early Jet Li
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26616885 - 04/21/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: Edit: I've been enough of an ass today. Carry on.
I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs

Buncha fire and brimstone.
You forget that in my universe, all people are one so that I'm also the victim of every atrocity ever as well as the perpetrator of them.
I'm every victim of COVID including my aunt.
I'm on a mission to learn a metaphor for this universe that can be condensed into a book that can used by many to alleviate the pain of their existance.
For this reason I'm given many dilemmas and choices between scenarios, have been since childhood.
Please don't wish harm on me.
I could have wished for a ton of gold but I wished for something for Humanity entirely, to become a galactic society, so that all the life of earth can spread.
And for this wish you want to see me dead?
All people aren’t one though and you aren’t every victim of every atrocity or the perpetrator. It seems to me like some degree of mental illness that leads you to believe such things.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26616886 - 04/21/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So was I. In my head at the time Jackie Chan, Bruce Li, and Jet Li were all mysterious eastern martial artists.
Oh to be young
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Thanatos10 said: It seems to me like some degree of mental illness that leads you to believe such things.
Uhuh mr Everybody Else Is Not Real
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26616944 - 04/21/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanatos10 said: It seems to me like some degree of mental illness that leads you to believe such things.
Uhuh mr Everybody Else Is Not Real 
Try and stay on topic
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spirit_shadow said: Edit: I've been enough of an ass today. Carry on.
I don't care to see it stopped I care to see Asante live with the reprecussion of the prediction he made rather than mask it with "well, if it didn't happen you're just in the universe my Spirit Guide moved me into for safety!"
At the very least, hopefully his Guide's trickster nature kicks in and every rendition of Asante that was due to witness nuclear fire ends up dying from Covid before it happens while this one with us has to live with the weight of killing off thousands of his other selves to make this version of himself feel more unified as an individual who doesn't witness the bombs

Buncha fire and brimstone.
You forget that in my universe, all people are one so that I'm also the victim of every atrocity ever as well as the perpetrator of them.
I'm every victim of COVID including my aunt.
I'm on a mission to learn a metaphor for this universe that can be condensed into a book that can used by many to alleviate the pain of their existance.
For this reason I'm given many dilemmas and choices between scenarios, have been since childhood.
Please don't wish harm on me.
I could have wished for a ton of gold but I wished for something for Humanity entirely, to become a galactic society, so that all the life of earth can spread.
And for this wish you want to see me dead?
All people aren’t one though and you aren’t every victim of every atrocity or the perpetrator. It seems to me like some degree of mental illness that leads you to believe such things.
All people aren't one? You can't pretend to have a grasp on philosophy then try and tell other people what to think. Only assholes and dumb dumbs can't evade this ego-driven obstacle.
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As much as I love to jest, I can’t carry on like this without first asking everyone to look up solipsism!
Btw. I propose Thanatos and Asante settle their differences not by debate, but by becoming heated lovers...followed by marriage and kids and 2 puppies.
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The Blind Ass said: As much as I love to jest, I can’t carry on like this without first asking everyone to look up solipsism! ...
Did so, but it is almost bed time and too many words so hit up the image search for helpful memes

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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Tantrika]
#26616973 - 04/21/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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tho Wikipedia did draw a comparison with Advaita Vedanta, which was the focus of some of my upper-level course work in my religious studies major
so that made reading a bit more comprehensible
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Advaita Vedanta
Advaita is one of the six most known Hindu philosophical systems and literally means "non-duality". Its first great consolidator was Adi Shankaracharya, who continued the work of some of the Upanishadic teachers, and that of his teacher's teacher Gaudapada. By using various arguments, such as the analysis of the three states of experience—wakefulness, dream, and deep sleep, he established the singular reality of Brahman, in which Brahman, the universe and the Atman or the Self, were one and the same.
One who sees everything as nothing but the Self, and the Self in everything one sees, such a seer withdraws from nothing. For the enlightened, all that exists is nothing but the Self, so how could any suffering or delusion continue for those who know this oneness? — Ishopanishad: sloka 6, 7
The concept of the Self in the philosophy of Advaita could be interpreted as solipsism. However, the transhuman, theological implications of the Self in Advaita protect it from true solipsism as found in the west. Similarly, the Vedantic text Yogavasistha, escapes charge of solipsism because the real "I" is thought to be nothing but the absolute whole looked at through a particular unique point of interest.[22]
Advaita is also thought to strongly diverge from solipsism in that, the former is a system of exploration of one's mind in order to finally understand the nature of the self and attain complete knowledge. The unity of existence is said to be directly experienced and understood at the end as a part of complete knowledge. On the other hand, solipsism posits the non-existence of the external world right at the beginning, and says that no further inquiry is possible.[citation needed]

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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Tantrika] 2
#26617008 - 04/21/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yep, the solipsists stop in their search when they reach the first impass - and like koan they cannot Digest - they get sick and wither .
The rest of us keep going 
Man 1 - isn’t solipsism as far as we can go and be sure?
Man 2- who wants to know?
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This is why I brought Advaita Vedanta into Thanatos10's solipsism dilemma.
He wanted nothing of it
No nothing uplifting exists and the only reasonable option is suicide 
All Is One - Thou Art That
Is thoroughly delightful, but if you're disenchanted, yes its a nightmare.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26617021 - 04/21/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It’s cool, I got stuck in the trap of solipsism for years.
Then It dawned over and over in various instances that the self which was stuck , was also subject to Annata, Annica, and Dukkha.
And it Had no intrinsically existing nature of its own.
Hard to grasp, the intellect alone cannot comprehend it. hence why simply reading of spiritual traditions and their doctrines and disciplines does not bring the same thing as living and practicing them in a way the elucidates their teachings directly.
Misunderstood, the highest teachings of Buddhism can be easily misconstrued for solipsism, or more particularly its implications and human response to such a thing. Hence why guidance from a trusted brother on the path is often usually stressed.
Dzogchen, Abdhidhamma, Advaita Vedanta, and so many other traditions and schools point towards the great perfection. Bless them.
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The Blind Ass said: Yep, the solipsists stop in their search when they reach the first impass - and like koan they cannot Digest - they get sick and wither .
The rest of us keep going 
Man 1 - isn’t solipsism as far as we can go and be sure?
Man 2- who wants to know?

This is a misunderstanding of what solipsism is. The thing is that with solipsism there is no “moving on” in a logical sense, you just have to believe in one or the other.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26617086 - 04/21/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Asante said: This is why I brought Advaita Vedanta into Thanatos10's solipsism dilemma.
He wanted nothing of it
No nothing uplifting exists and the only reasonable option is suicide 
All Is One - Thou Art That
Is thoroughly delightful, but if you're disenchanted, yes its a nightmare.
All is not one and one thing you don’t understand is that the doctrines you guys talk about are also in doubt because they too could just be mental projections.
I don’t think people grasp the issue of solipsism
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I know it quite well. Just some things are going over your head. Have you read the classics in philosophy that deal with it? Or are you more of a web guy? I can recommend some to you, I’ll pm you some later.
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Asante said: This is why I brought Advaita Vedanta into Thanatos10's solipsism dilemma.
He wanted nothing of it
No nothing uplifting exists and the only reasonable option is suicide 
All Is One - Thou Art That
Is thoroughly delightful, but if you're disenchanted, yes its a nightmare.
All is not one and one thing you don’t understand is that the doctrines you guys talk about are also in doubt because they too could just be mental projections.
I don’t think people grasp the issue of solipsism
How can you believe in solipsism, that all others are extensions of your mind, and not believe that all things are one. You just have cabin fever dude.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante] 2
#26617164 - 04/21/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Asante said: How can you believe in solipsism, that all others are extensions of your mind, and not believe that all things are one.
Stop seeing things differently Asante!!! How dare you!
God, it's like you just don't understand or something!!
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Asante]
#26617250 - 04/21/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Asante said: This is why I brought Advaita Vedanta into Thanatos10's solipsism dilemma.
He wanted nothing of it
No nothing uplifting exists and the only reasonable option is suicide 
All Is One - Thou Art That
Is thoroughly delightful, but if you're disenchanted, yes its a nightmare.
All is not one and one thing you don’t understand is that the doctrines you guys talk about are also in doubt because they too could just be mental projections.
I don’t think people grasp the issue of solipsism
How can you believe in solipsism, that all others are extensions of your mind, and not believe that all things are one. You just have cabin fever dude.
Because they aren’t the same thing. Also no philosophy has been able to get over it without “magical thinking”.
Also in response to the OP, you have to be some kind of fool to think a crisis would unit humanity. History shows how that turns to backfire. Humans only unit against each other and this virus is proof of that.
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Envix]
#26617525 - 04/21/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Envix said: but can you blow away COVID 19 with the wind of god?
That guy is fucking evil incarnate.
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That’s the kind of guy you don’t want to trip with
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But.. but.. I really want PTSD after my trip!
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Just saw that guy on Last Week Tonight, proves the foolishness of humans
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Asante said: This is why I brought Advaita Vedanta into Thanatos10's solipsism dilemma.
He wanted nothing of it
No nothing uplifting exists and the only reasonable option is suicide 
All Is One - Thou Art That
Is thoroughly delightful, but if you're disenchanted, yes its a nightmare.
All is not one and one thing you don’t understand is that the doctrines you guys talk about are also in doubt because they too could just be mental projections.
I don’t think people grasp the issue of solipsism
In doubt to people who believe in solipsism
No one (else) here is seeking to pit philisophical traditions against each other and solipsism hits a wall in communication because it seeks to dictate that other people's experiences either don't exist; or that they are the only thing that does exist but typically the person promoting solipsism isn't making the argument that they themselves are the unverifiable reality because they are taking themselves as the authority that can verify reality
but when someone does not believe in or practice solipsism, it does not actually impact them to be told that they and their beliefs cannot be verified to exist
Much more interesting than solipsism, but arguably acting in the same way Nagarajuna from Buddhist traditions was a hugely important figure who did not really posit a positive philosophy, and instead went around using Buddhist philosophy of impermanence and dependent arising to argue that no philisophical tradition could be correct
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Utilizing the Buddha's theory of "dependent arising" (pratitya-samutpada), Nagarjuna demonstrated the futility of [...] metaphysical speculations. His method of dealing with such metaphysics is referred to as "middle way" (madhyama pratipad). It is the middle way that avoided the substantialism of the Sarvastivadins as well as the nominalism of the Sautrantikas.[14]
But this branch of Buddhism is also a step away from solipsism on the basis of existent things while they have presence
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In the Mūlamadhyamakakārikā, "[A]ll experienced phenomena are empty (sunya). This did not mean that they are not experienced and, therefore, non-existent; only that they are devoid of a permanent and eternal substance (svabhava) because, like a dream, they are mere projections of human consciousness. Since these imaginary fictions are experienced, they are not mere names (prajnapti)."[14]
His most profound work is known as the Mūlamadhyamaka-kārikā or the MMK to Buddhist scholars trying to refer to it in conversation
tho if this figure does not interest you in particular he did more or less start the Mahayana Buddhism movement that would later sweep into East Asia and become most well-defined or recognized by Zen but another branch of philisophical consideration was brought up in the Yogacara school of Buddhism which posits a position of "Mind Only"
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One of the main features of Yogācāra philosophy is the concept of vijñapti-mātra. According to Lambert Schmithausen, the earliest surviving appearance of this term is in chapter 8 of the Saṅdhinirmocana Sūtra, which unfortunately, has only survived in Tibetan and Chinese translations that differ in syntax and meaning.[13] The passage is depicted as a response by the Buddha to a question which asks "whether the images or replicas (*pratibimba) which are the object (*gocara) of meditative concentration (*samadhi), are different/separate (*bhinna) from the contemplating mind (*citta) or not." The Buddha says they are not different, "Because these images are vijñapti-mātra." The text goes on to affirm that the same is true for objects of ordinary perception.[14]
Regarding existing Sanskrit sources, the term appears in the first verse of Vasubandhu's Vimśatikā, which is a locus classicus of the idea, it states:[15]
vijñaptimātram evaitad asad arthāvabhāsanāt yathā taimirikasyāsat keśa candrādi darśanam This [world] is vijñaptimātra, since it manifests itself as an unreal object (artha), Just like the case of those with cataracts seeing unreal hairs in the moon and the like."
According to Mark Siderits, what Vasubandhu means here is that we are only ever aware of mental images or impressions which manifest themselves as external objects, but "there is actually no such thing outside the mind."[15]
The term also appears in Asaṅga's classic Yogācāra work, the Mahāyānasaṃgraha (no Sanskrit original, trans. from Tibetan):
These representations (vijñapti) are mere representations (vijñapti-mātra), because there is no [corresponding] thing/object (artha)...Just as in a dream there appear, even without a thing/object (artha), just in the mind alone, forms/images of all kinds of things/objects like visibles, sounds, smells, tastes, tangibles, houses, forests, land, and mountains, and yet there are no [such] things/objects at all in that [place]. MSg II.6[16]
The term is sometimes used as a synonym with citta-mātra (mere citta), which is also used a name for the school that suggests Idealism.[4][17] Schmithausen writes that the first appearance of this term is in the Pratyupanna samadhi sutra, which states:
This (or: whatever belongs to this) triple world (*traidhātuka) is nothing but mind (or thought: *cittamatra). Why? Because however I imagine things, that is how they appear.[18]
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Re: I made a wish. [Re: Tantrika]
#26618386 - 04/21/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I knew I liked you. Namaste ... (and I don’t use that word/ ). your comprehension of dharma, as shown by your ability to compose an argument that holds to my traditions scrutiny- is very refreshing.
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