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Turning solipsism upside down into sosphincterism, apoproaching it from the other side, I think we all are real, except for Thanatos10 who is a figment of our collecive imagination.
We all know we're real, but Thanatos10 isn't so sure about that.. What more proof do you need? He tries to give his own nonexistence meaning by turning the whole thing upside down trying to empty out his onus on us cause we got the toilet paper.
Thanatos10, what proof have you that you exist?
We have to have to approach the situation from the other side
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#26615213 - 04/20/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanatos denies that you can possibly know anything, because he knows everything.
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Re: I'm beginning to thing Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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I know that Thanatos is being ignored by at least 1 member..
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Re: I'm beginning to thing Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Amanita86]
#26615230 - 04/20/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I doubt the All-Encompassing One encompasses Thanatos10 in its Totality of Everything.
Its 4/20 whoi knows there might be something to it 
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#26615242 - 04/20/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Inter-resting post like deep anal. I think that you're subliminally referring to Thanatos10 as a ghost poop. You feel it come out but it vanishes down the porcelain portal unseen. The only evidence that remains are fecal smears on the toilet paper that we're left to observe like a Thanatos post.
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#26615261 - 04/20/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I relate with thanatos10 very much . If he is not real then neither am i
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Re: I'm beginning to thing Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Envix]
#26615360 - 04/20/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Might he be the mysterious sine non quon behind all phenomena?
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Re: I'm beginning to thing Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: The Blind Ass]
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#26615421 - 04/20/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If we’re all not real at the same time... yet reality persists....
Doesn’t matter if we’re real or not real, reality seems to be beyond such dualistic distinctions!!!!!
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Re: I'm beginning to thing Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26615427 - 04/20/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: Might he be the mysterious sine non quon behind all phenomena?
Are you trying to say "sine qua non?"
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#26615463 - 04/20/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do we all disappear when he has dreams at night? Thatd be fucked!
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26615470 - 04/20/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do people that know everything dream of unknowable sheep, that's what I want to know.
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Re: I'm beginning to thing Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Enlil]
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The Blind Ass said: Might he be the mysterious sine non quon behind all phenomena?
Are you trying to say "sine qua non?"
Yes. Typed that immediately after waking up from a nap with my iPad on my chest and could have sworn I got it right.
Haha.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26615684 - 04/20/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: Do people that know everything dream of unknowable sheep, that's what I want to know.
Do Electric Sheep Dream of Us? 
Or do we simply dream of each other, one at a time, every night?
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
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I'm sorry for coming into this thread. I thought it was about Theranos. I've never heard of Thanatos. Enjoy!
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: Turning solipsism upside down into sosphincterism, apoproaching it from the other side, I think we all are real, except for Thanatos10 who is a figment of our collecive imagination.
We all know we're real, but Thanatos10 isn't so sure about that.. What more proof do you need? He tries to give his own nonexistence meaning by turning the whole thing upside down trying to empty out his onus on us cause we got the toilet paper.
Thanatos10, what proof have you that you exist?
We have to have to approach the situation from the other side 
If I don't exist then I wouldn't be typing things or experiencing all this. All that I can be sure of is that I exist but not anyone else. It's not my fault you don't understand Solipsism and why it's a problem.
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actually if you are a solipsist, it *is* your fault he doesn't understand it
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: deff]
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Solipsism isn't the belief that you are the only one existing and everything else is a figment of your imagination, it's the belief that your experience is the only thing you can verifiably rely on existing.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: PatrickKn]
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PatrickKn said: Solipsism isn't the belief that you are the only one existing and everything else is a figment of your imagination, it's the belief that your experience is the only thing you can verifiably rely on existing.
That's soft solipsism yes, but the problem still remains.
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#26616118 - 04/20/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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We should stay quarantined forever.
The quality of threads on the shroomery has increased dramatically
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said: We should stay quarantined forever.
The quality of threads on the shroomery has increased dramatically
Well....there is more of them, I wouldn't say quality went up.
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#26616369 - 04/20/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanatos10 said: That's soft solipsism yes, but the problem still remains.
For you, I suspect a problem will always exist, regardless of what you say causes it, for it's actually you that causes it, and I think it's very obvious that you just 'like' having a problem.
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Enlil said: I'm sorry for coming into this thread. I thought it was about Theranos. I've never heard of Thanatos. Enjoy!
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 said:
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PatrickKn said: Solipsism isn't the belief that you are the only one existing and everything else is a figment of your imagination, it's the belief that your experience is the only thing you can verifiably rely on existing.
That's soft solipsism yes, but the problem still remains.
With a name like Thanatos, there's no time to go soft.
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#26616768 - 04/21/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Now this is my kind of thread.
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#26616776 - 04/21/20 04:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Welcome to the Party Rational Philosopher. 
Let the Mental Gamez Begin
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I'm high AF and just finished my workout. I'll be back in a bit with my Rational Report!
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26617407 - 04/21/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dreamed of a place I thought I made up but I just checked and it is a real place :/ what does that mean? And I swear I've never read about it or seen it so you cant say my mind randomly fired neurons.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: spirit_shadow]
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South Florida. That alone explains a lot. I still enjoy some of their posts.
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#26617824 - 04/21/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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We do have fun. Regardless of differences that lay in our minds, Thanos is still shroomery fam. Even if he’s unsure of it
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Agreed. I get SOOO annoyed by his responses......but I still love him :p
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#26617954 - 04/21/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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We will never stop loving you Than, even after the universe ends due to entropy or some unknown unknown
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#26617961 - 04/21/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Progress comes from conflict
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#26618086 - 04/21/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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This thread is not as disrespectful as it appears Thanatos10.
You are in the grip of an existential loneliness crisis in the middle of a lockdown.
We all want your to snap out of it.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Asante]
#26618091 - 04/21/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’m a figment of my imagination.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Crazy_Horse said: I’m a figment of my imagination.
You're in mine too
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Asante]
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Stop doing that.
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Crazy_Horse said: I’m a figment of my imagination.
Wake Up Neo.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: This thread is not as disrespectful as it appears Thanatos10.
You are in the grip of an existential loneliness crisis in the middle of a lockdown.
We all want your to snap out of it.
Sadly all that can really get me out is believing people exist and hopefully forgetting solipsism
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10] 2
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Better a functional delusion than a nonfunctional reality.
Apart from solipsism being truth or delusion, the way YOU experience it its nonfunctional, destructive.
Strike up the assumption that all of us exist, like, we all assert.
One leap of faith. That shouldnt be too hard.
You do it every time you buy something from the store and eat it.
faith without logic is blind, logic without faith is deaf.
Either you take a leap of faith that people exist and you break free from this destructive thoughloop, or revise your stance towards Solipsism into it being something more uplifting than an ice cold handjob by Ayn Rand.
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Fuck....I took both pills....idk what to do I'm freaking out man
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10]
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Asante said: This thread is not as disrespectful as it appears Thanatos10.
You are in the grip of an existential loneliness crisis in the middle of a lockdown.
We all want your to snap out of it.
Sadly all that can really get me out is believing people exist and hopefully forgetting solipsism
If u believe hard enough that people dont exist, would they disappear thou? Does solipsmsm allow that possibility? Can the mind overcome the illusion?
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I lived in St. Petersburg for 1.5 years back in 2005-06. Loved it and met a few cool people. I also worked at the St Pete Yacht club for a year as a bartender. That job is where I decided to change careers. I was about to get into real estate and then nursing popped up. If Katrina hadn't happened, I'd be in real estate. I like your posts actually, you seem like a genuinely good person/poster, maybe?
Dali museum is fucking incredible, and the st pete beach, so beautiful. I had a 650 a month apt 3 miles from downtown, and a ten minute bike ride to the beach.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: Better a functional delusion than a nonfunctional reality.
Apart from solipsism being truth or delusion, the way YOU experience it its nonfunctional, destructive.
Strike up the assumption that all of us exist, like, we all assert.
One leap of faith. That shouldnt be too hard.
You do it every time you buy something from the store and eat it.
faith without logic is blind, logic without faith is deaf.
Either you take a leap of faith that people exist and you break free from this destructive thoughloop, or revise your stance towards Solipsism into it being something more uplifting than an ice cold handjob by Ayn Rand.
A leap wouldn’t be a break from this though, it never is. Because the reality will always be in the back of your kind and it will poison every interaction you have with the world and those in it. The only freedom, ironically, is to never have known it. Because once you know it then it will haunt everything you do, because the certainty and strength you felt before is taken from you and you’ll never get it back. Every friendship, every bond, love, all of it will feel a little less solid, less secure, less real. Because in the back of my mind I’ll never know if they are real or not.
It’s not about what is functional but what is true. To live a lie isn’t an option. To act with certainty when you don’t have it seems like it’s not an option.
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I can vouch for my existence over here. I’m locked up in this bitch and can’t get out either.. Had a whole life and whatnot that nobody knows about so it you’re unaware of it you couldn’t have thought it up.
So the real question is are you, Thanatos, a figment of my imagination... 

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Maybe everyone is a figment of each others imaginations, and it creates a network of independently verifiable realities that can communicate between each other and strengthen eachothers existences by.
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Nice.
... when we start talking about the mutual co-arising of interdependent phenomena... i sense we approach the truth of things more honestly.
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PatrickKn said: Solipsism isn't the belief that you are the only one existing and everything else is a figment of your imagination, it's the belief that your experience is the only thing you can verifiably rely on existing.
That's soft solipsism yes, but the problem still remains.
With a name like Thanatos, there's no time to go soft. 
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Nice.
... when we start talking about the mutual co-arising of interdependent phenomena... i sense we approach the truth of things more honestly.
Not really because you can’t verify the mural part, you can only assume
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Which is exactly what you are doing. It is pointless. Just enjoy what you can observe.
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PatrickKn said: Maybe everyone is a figment of each others imaginations, and it creates a network of independently verifiable realities that can communicate between each other and strengthen eachothers existences by.
Nice.
... when we start talking about the mutual co-arising of interdependent phenomena... i sense we approach the truth of things more honestly.
Not really because you can’t verify the mural part, you can only assume
Is this not true of the first step of the individual tho?
Is the Self verifiable if it can only be known by its being in contrast to other verifiable objects? Is "I think therefor I am" sufficient to verify the existence of the thinker when all other objects of thought are considered effectively non-existent beyond the process of thought?
If the Self cannot be verified to exist, then how in turn are the experiences the Self has trusted to exist either?
My closest parallel to solipsism is the Yogacara school of Buddhism mentioned in the other thread but these are the sorts of things that came up as considerations at that time but they at least benefit from the broader philosophy of Buddhism having a starting point that there is no permanent Self that can be known before considering whether outside objects can be known
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 Point of note: the Advaita Vedanta tradition of Shankaracharya is considered one of the philisophical closing points of the Upanishadic knowledge so it's a good point of study if wanting to comprehend how Shankara's thoughts contrasted or built upon existing philisophical schools developed to that point in Indian history
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I'm a solipsist but I still believe in all of you it's just that you're me
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Isn't it curious? how one can be in the midst of water crying out desperately in thirst, or like the son of a rich man who wandered away amongst the poor. Sad. But funny. A divine tragic-comedy.
Migrating through the darkness due to ones own ignorance.
Going further and further astray in the darkness, how can we ever be free😱! Oh me Oh my...not knowing how close the truth is one actually attempts to seek for it, and by seeking are lead astray. Like trying to find rest by wandering around. Like trying to wake up when we are all but asleep. What a pity!
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Nice.
... when we start talking about the mutual co-arising of interdependent phenomena... i sense we approach the truth of things more honestly.
Not really because you can’t verify the mural part, you can only assume
Is this not true of the first step of the individual tho?
Is the Self verifiable if it can only be known by its being in contrast to other verifiable objects? Is "I think therefor I am" sufficient to verify the existence of the thinker when all other objects of thought are considered effectively non-existent beyond the process of thought?
If the Self cannot be verified to exist, then how in turn are the experiences the Self has trusted to exist either?
My closest parallel to solipsism is the Yogacara school of Buddhism mentioned in the other thread but these are the sorts of things that came up as considerations at that time but they at least benefit from the broader philosophy of Buddhism having a starting point that there is no permanent Self that can be known before considering whether outside objects can be known
Attacking the self however doesn’t negate the conclusion of hard solipsism.
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That only you can be known to exist in some form, everything else does not. Soft solipsism says it can’t be verified.
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LOL, that even ones realization itself is as empty as it’s subject.
Heart sutra comes to mind. Ohhhh Shariputra...
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That only you can be known to exist in some form, everything else does not. Soft solipsism says it can’t be verified.
Okay, but this goes right back to my questions about the Self how can you be known to exist in some form -- is this building on the "I think therefore I am" philosophy? what is the parameter being used as a baseline in this philisophical school?
the baseline in Yogacara is that there is no permanent self that can be known, and that truth can be extended to all other objects of the mind am not comprehending what defines solipsism as a philisophical view independent of nihilism never studied Western philosophy, so only familiar with a few abstract concepts and more popular names
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Because if there was no entity then this would not be taking place. It’s not an I think therefor I am, were there no being experiencing all this then there would be no questions.
But as I said, attacking the self doesn’t negate the reality that our sense perception can’t be verified nor the existence of other minds and people or even an external reality. Vedanta says there is an external reality but solipsism doesn’t even go that far
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Now I must contemplate suicide, since it seems like the only escape from all of it. I don’t want to go on living doubting other people
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Thanatos10 said: Because if there was no entity then this would not be taking place. It’s not an I think therefor I am, were there no being experiencing all this then there would be no questions.
But as I said, attacking the self doesn’t negate the reality that our sense perception can’t be verified nor the existence of other minds and people or even an external reality. Vedanta says there is an external reality but solipsism doesn’t even go that far
Vedanta says the only actual external reality is ultimate reality (Brahman) and that the Self (Atman) is identical with the Brahman The Brahman/Atman complex is the "entity" manifesting the experienced reality hence, non-dual
Later it would be posited "why does the reality become manifested" -- to which one of my favourite schools of thought developed it's all just here for the enjoyment of it
but it should be fairly noted that Advaita Vedanta was a singular school specifically focused on holding a non-dual view of existence you can find other philisophical traditions want to say there was a tradition of Vaita Vedanta (Dualistic philosophy based on the end of the Vedic teachings) but looking up the progenitor of that tradition resulted in instead finding Vishishtadvaita which appears to be the non-dual school but with a different interpretation for how things manifest
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Vishishtadvaita (IAST Viśiṣṭādvaita; Sanskrit: विशिष्टाद्वैत) is one of the most popular schools of the Vedanta school of Hindu philosophy. Vedanta literally means the end of the Vedas. VishishtAdvaita (literally "Advaita with uniqueness; qualifications") is a non-dualistic school of Vedanta philosophy. It is non-dualism of the qualified whole, in which Brahman alone exists, but is characterized by multiplicity. It can be described as qualified monism or qualified non-dualism or attributive monism. It is a school of Vedanta philosophy which believes in all diversity subsuming to an underlying unity.
Ramanuja, the 11-12th century philosopher and the main proponent of Vishishtadvaita philosophy contends that the Prasthanatrayi ("The three courses"), namely the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Brahma Sutras are to be interpreted in a way that shows this unity in diversity, for any other way would violate their consistency. Vedanta Desika defines Vishishtadvaita using the statement, Asesha Chit-Achit Prakaaram Brahmaikameva Tatvam : Brahman, as qualified by the sentient and insentient modes (or attributes), is the only reality.
am so certain in my memory that there was a school of Dualism based around Vishnu as the primary creator of reality that all else is independent from but that also heavily characterizes the Bhakti movement, so could certainly be mixing up some of these things
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Am a dum dum mixed up Ramanuja and Madhvacharya
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Dvaita Vedanta (/ˈdvaɪtə vɪˈdɑːntə/; Sanskrit: द्वैत वेदान्त) is a sub-school in the Vedanta tradition of Hindu philosophy. Alternatively known as Bhedavāda, Tattvavāda and Bimbapratibimbavāda, the Dvaita Vedanta sub-school was founded by the 13th-century scholar Madhvacharya.[1] The Dvaita Vedanta school believes that God (Vishnu, supreme soul) and the individual souls (jīvātman) exist as independent realities, and these are distinct, being said that Vishnu (Narayana) is independent, and souls are dependent on him. The Dvaita school contrasts with the other two major sub-schools of Vedanta, the Advaita Vedanta of Adi Shankara which posits nondualism – that ultimate reality (Brahman) and human soul are identical and all reality is interconnected oneness, and Vishishtadvaita of Ramanuja which posits qualified nondualism – that ultimate reality (Brahman) and human soul are different but with the potential to be identical.[2][3]
Dvaita (द्वैत) is a Sanskrit word that means "duality, dualism".[4] The term refers to any premise, particularly in theology on the material and the divine, where two principles (truths) or realities are posited to exist simultaneously and independently.[4][1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvaita_Vedanta
anyway, important qualitative take-away is there was a lot of diverging thought on the exact interpretation and consolidation of the teachings of the Vedas
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Tantrika]
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Solipsism doesn’t even posit an external reality.
Sigh, I’m just tired right now. It’s as exhausting as it was back then and worse I think.
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Thanatos10 said: Solipsism doesn’t even posit an external reality.
Sigh, I’m just tired right now. It’s as exhausting as it was back then and worse I think.
Then what is the experiences that are had? If there is not even a provisional external reality for the entity to experience, how are you here discussing it?
The Atman/Brahman is simultaneously the reality that it experiences, am not comprehending what solipsism holds to as a philisophically consistent position the "soft" solipsism seemed to imply that "things" are out there even if they are only imaginary then you suggested "hard" solipsism views only the experiencing entity as real but the experiences as not real now you appear to be saying there is not even an external reality of unreal experiences for the real entity to imagine experiencing
Can understand why you are tired, nothing about solipsism seems to actually make a consistent enough sense to refer to it without having to constantly work the brain to justify it
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here's a thought, if no one else is real then who wrote the wikipedia article?
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Yeah already went back and read that it is the same article my post in the Wish thread regarding Advaita Vedanta first quoted
The core take away, to me, at the time had been:
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The concept of the Self in the philosophy of Advaita could be interpreted as solipsism. However, the transhuman, theological implications of the Self in Advaita protect it from true solipsism as found in the west. Similarly, the Vedantic text Yogavasistha, escapes charge of solipsism because the real "I" is thought to be nothing but the absolute whole looked at through a particular unique point of interest.[22]
but you have since gone on to explain holding to a position within the philisophical tradition where only the entity is real
Advaita Vedanta then posits that Brahman/Atman manifests reality of themself wherein the Atman 'individual' transitions to become every single individual experiencing point of view but none of the external world has an actual existence beyond its reality as Brahman
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Except solipsism doesn’t even do that. As it said on there, it doesn’t posit an external world for there is no evidence of it
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The Buddhist doctrine of the two truths (Wylie: bden pa gnyis) differentiates between two levels of satya (A Sanskrit and Pali word meaning truth or reality) in the teaching of the Buddha: the "conventional" or "provisional" (saṁvṛti) truth, and the "ultimate" (paramārtha) truth.[1]
The exact meaning varies between the various Buddhist schools and traditions. The best known interpretation is from the Madhyamaka school of Mahāyāna Buddhism, whose founder was Nagarjuna.[1] For Nagarjuna, the two truths are epistemological truths. The phenomenal world is accorded a provisional existence. The character of the phenomenal world is declared to be neither real nor unreal, but logically indeterminable. Ultimately, phenomena are empty (sunyata) of an inherent self or essence, but exist depending on other phenomena (Pratītyasamutpāda).[1]
In Chinese Buddhism, the Madhyamaka position is accepted and the two truths refer to two ontological truths. Reality exists of two levels, a relative level and an absolute level.[2] Based on their understanding of the Mahayana Mahaparinirvana Sutra, the Chinese supposed that the teaching of the Buddha-nature was, as stated by that sutra, the final Buddhist teaching, and that there is an essential truth above sunyata and the two truths.[3]
The śūnyatā doctrine is an attempt to show that it is neither proper nor strictly justifiable to regard any metaphysical system as absolutely valid. It doesn't lead to nihilism but strikes a middle course between excessive naivete and excessive scepticism.[1]
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Thanatos10 said: Except solipsism doesn’t even do that. As it said on there, it doesn’t posit an external world for there is no evidence of it
So it participates in an external world but does not even provisionally recognize the existence of the external world it engages with?
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I'm aware of the two truths with respect to that my statement would be if no one else is conventionally real (something that solipsism implies or at least says cannot be known)
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I have been meaning to mention it for days...but I took it for granted.
Tantrika got it though.
The 2 Truths doctrine!!! Classic example of why a tradition that has dealt with all the roadblocks and hindrances to understanding ourselves and the world around us , has merit and virtue .
It’s helps, a lot. Think of it as a skillful means to understanding it all, that helps us stay sane. While giving us a means to reconcile and even coalesce the mundane relative truth and the Supramundane absolute truth into a single whole with 2 sides.
another way to think of it as the flaming sword of wisdom that cuts through the proverbial Gordian knot !
The brains capacity for compartmentalizations sure comes in handy sometimes 
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: The Blind Ass]
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Tantrika got it though.
The 2 Truths teaching. It’s helps, a lot. Think of it as a skillful means to understanding it all, that helps us stay sane. While giving us a means to reconcile and even coalesce the mundane relative truth and the Supramundane absolute truth into a single whole with 2 sides.
The brains capacity for compartmentalizations sure comes in handy sometimes 
Am mostly having problems at present comprehending solipsism
the existence of the experiencing entity is known to be real by the fact that it is experiencing but the experiences are defined as not real; or not really occurring
this "makes sense" as part of broader philosophies that incorporate a sort of system of "two truths" the reality that is experienced is real in so far as it is created by the entity to be experienced it has no real reality, but it has a provisional reality that validates the experience of the entity
solipsism seems to imply the experiences do not take form even as a provisional reality yet they are recognized as having sufficient form to provide verification of the existence of the entity experiencing them but then they are afterward not considered to have any reality, even as an extension of the entity
so, somehow, it seems like the existence of the entity is only being verified by non-reality which would imply that the entity is itself non-real, but the philisophical system seems to argue that implication is not valid as the entity is the only real thing
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Tantrika]
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Thanatos10 said: Except solipsism doesn’t even do that. As it said on there, it doesn’t posit an external world for there is no evidence of it
So it participates in an external world but does not even provisionally recognize the existence of the external world it engages with?
What a throw-away philosophy
It doubts the existence of anything external to you. Which begs the question of how your mind made anything without knowing about it. I mean how do you build a house if you have never seen it
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10]
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 said: Except solipsism doesn’t even do that. As it said on there, it doesn’t posit an external world for there is no evidence of it
So it participates in an external world but does not even provisionally recognize the existence of the external world it engages with?
What a throw-away philosophy
It doubts the existence of anything external to you. Which begs the question of how your mind made anything without knowing about it. I mean how do you build a house if you have never seen it
but does it recognize it as an "internal" reality being experienced as external? really not comprehending how the tradition explains lived experience
In Advaita Vedanta, nothing is actually external to the Brahman/Atman tho it's experienced as externalities for the sake of creating experiences
to me the question isn't really of the making without knowing throw chaotic forces at each other long enough and they stick as temporary magnitudes of order that seem comprehensible even if all the connections comprising them are transient
building a house is really just a function of deciding there needs to be a surface overhead, or more properly a closed space and then recognizing how to support those requirements relative to Earth's physics
the more interesting question to me would be why so much adheres to something such as Earth's physics if it's all just made in the mind, why have any degrees of consistency at all?
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Enlil]
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I never have either until I read this thread now I see him. He really might be a figment of our imagination
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10] 2
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Thanatos10 said: Now I must contemplate suicide, since it seems like the only escape from all of it. I don’t want to go on living doubting other people
Dont do it bro. The Spirit Realm will punish u for suicide. Its not worth it man!
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
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Thanatos10 said: Except solipsism doesn’t even do that. As it said on there, it doesn’t posit an external world for there is no evidence of it
So it participates in an external world but does not even provisionally recognize the existence of the external world it engages with?
What a throw-away philosophy
It doubts the existence of anything external to you. Which begs the question of how your mind made anything without knowing about it. I mean how do you build a house if you have never seen it
but does it recognize it as an "internal" reality being experienced as external? really not comprehending how the tradition explains lived experience
In Advaita Vedanta, nothing is actually external to the Brahman/Atman tho it's experienced as externalities for the sake of creating experiences
to me the question isn't really of the making without knowing throw chaotic forces at each other long enough and they stick as temporary magnitudes of order that seem comprehensible even if all the connections comprising them are transient
building a house is really just a function of deciding there needs to be a surface overhead, or more properly a closed space and then recognizing how to support those requirements relative to Earth's physics
the more interesting question to me would be why so much adheres to something such as Earth's physics if it's all just made in the mind, why have any degrees of consistency at all?
We cannot break through into the intrinsic spaciousness of our mind stream unless we suspend our belief in conventional reality as real and true. Moral truth, scientific truth, assumptions about the actual content of our sensory experience, all must be subsumed under the heading of 'lies', 'falsehood', 'unreality'.
The entire belief system by which we relate professionally, socially and sexually, domestically and personally, must be undermined, deconstructed and rendered ineffectual. Every belief system is hypothetical, a superficial construction, capable of replacement by an alternative set of beliefs. It is all delusion. It is deceiving, duplicitous, spurious fiction. It is a lie. In that way, by rejecting fact as 'true', we begin to relieve ourselves of the density and heaviness, not to say bigotry, of our beliefs about the nature of reality.
All a lie, even solipsism. All subsuming lie, regardless of a character on your screen that is spelled Thanatos10 and the word appearing beside the name, regardless of what they say - those squiggles of text composed of a sequence of 1’s and 0’s- they are all lie.
Labels are for the birds, reality is hyper-nameless and not a word can be said of it in its true nature. Mere approximation, performed by an ignorant, highly fallible human animal of the mammalian type - subject to delusions, illusions, and a host of hindrances and distractions. All attempts to speak of it are symbolic at best. ****
Without 2 truths doctrine , we would have to stop right there, at least in a philosophical debate or any debate or discussion in which we all have agreed to terms and their definitions before hand.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: The Blind Ass]
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None of it is really a lie and I wouldn’t say two truths is a thing as it implies an absolute that doesn’t seem to exist. Our models aren’t exactly fiction, they are true in a relative sense as relative truth is all we have. Reality isn’t nameless as much of it has been figured out in regards to how it works, it’s just the quantum world that gives hiccups.
You can’t say solipsism is a lie and as for the nature of reality solipsism posits it as unknowable. Rejecting all that doesn’t tell you what reality is, it just leads to a certain experience.
Not to mention your first segment is the problem of solipsism, your whole post doesn’t really solve solipsism as much as ignores it. You say solipsism is a lie without evidence, same with everything else. Your words can’t be trusted either because they are based on experience.
Also based on your words it sounds like you want to keep me in suffering and in disconnect from those I love
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
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The Blind Ass said: ... We cannot break through into the intrinsic spaciousness of our mind stream unless we suspend our belief in conventional reality as real and true. Moral truth, scientific truth, assumptions about the actual content of our sensory experience, all must be subsumed under the heading of 'lies', 'falsehood', 'unreality'.
The entire belief system by which we relate professionally, socially and sexually, domestically and personally, must be undermined, deconstructed and rendered ineffectual. Every belief system is hypothetical, a superficial construction, capable of replacement by an alternative set of beliefs. It is all delusion. It is deceiving, duplicitous, spurious fiction. It is a lie. In that way, by rejecting fact as 'true', we begin to relieve ourselves of the density and heaviness, not to say bigotry, of our beliefs about the nature of reality.
All a lie, even solipsism. All subsuming lie, regardless of a character on your screen that is spelled Thanatos10 and the word appearing beside the name, regardless of what they say - those squiggles of text composed of a sequence of 1’s and 0’s- they are all lie.
Labels are for the birds, reality is hyper-nameless and not a word can be said of it in its true nature. Mere approximation, performed by an ignorant, highly fallible human animal of the mammalian type - subject to delusions, illusions, and a host of hindrances and distractions. All attempts to speak of it are symbolic at best. ****
Without 2 truths doctrine , we would have to stop right there, at least in a philosophical debate or any debate or discussion in which we all have agreed to terms and their definitions before hand.
The thing that seems to make solipsism the most untrue/impractical/boring as a philosophy for me is that it takes a position of certainty on the unknowable
while solipsism makes certain the claim that nothing exists outside the entity Madhyamaka asks the question whether things can be known to exist, or even the entity -- the position is that both are uncertain because they depend on each other can't have experiences without an experiencer; no real experiencer without experiences
that is where the two-truths becomes of interest to me it starts asking questions of the implications of reality; recognizing the ultimate emptiness of reality while examining what that emptiness means for the lived experience
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Tantrika]
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: PatrickKn]
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PatrickKn said: Maybe everyone is a figment of each others imaginations, and it creates a network of independently verifiable realities that can communicate between each other and strengthen eachothers existences by.
Maybe we’re all figments in the imagination of someone else. Someone who has an imagination that is so complex that it can sort of turn loose what it imagines and in an exercise of meditation let what it imagines take on a life of it’s own. And that someone sits back and for a period of time, lets those figments run free.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Tantrika] 2
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The Blind Ass said: ... We cannot break through into the intrinsic spaciousness of our mind stream unless we suspend our belief in conventional reality as real and true. Moral truth, scientific truth, assumptions about the actual content of our sensory experience, all must be subsumed under the heading of 'lies', 'falsehood', 'unreality'.
The entire belief system by which we relate professionally, socially and sexually, domestically and personally, must be undermined, deconstructed and rendered ineffectual. Every belief system is hypothetical, a superficial construction, capable of replacement by an alternative set of beliefs. It is all delusion. It is deceiving, duplicitous, spurious fiction. It is a lie. In that way, by rejecting fact as 'true', we begin to relieve ourselves of the density and heaviness, not to say bigotry, of our beliefs about the nature of reality.
All a lie, even solipsism. All subsuming lie, regardless of a character on your screen that is spelled Thanatos10 and the word appearing beside the name, regardless of what they say - those squiggles of text composed of a sequence of 1’s and 0’s- they are all lie.
Labels are for the birds, reality is hyper-nameless and not a word can be said of it in its true nature. Mere approximation, performed by an ignorant, highly fallible human animal of the mammalian type - subject to delusions, illusions, and a host of hindrances and distractions. All attempts to speak of it are symbolic at best. ****
Without 2 truths doctrine , we would have to stop right there, at least in a philosophical debate or any debate or discussion in which we all have agreed to terms and their definitions before hand.
The thing that seems to make solipsism the most untrue/impractical/boring as a philosophy for me is that it takes a position of certainty on the unknowable
while solipsism makes certain the claim that nothing exists outside the entity Madhyamaka asks the question whether things can be known to exist, or even the entity -- the position is that both are uncertain because they depend on each other can't have experiences without an experiencer; no real experiencer without experiences
that is where the two-truths becomes of interest to me it starts asking questions of the implications of reality; recognizing the ultimate emptiness of reality while examining what that emptiness means for the lived experience
I’m slowly working past solipsism as I find it to be rather insufficient to explain things and I’m becoming aware of the glaring holes in it.
I guess in this case my fear overwrote my logical thinking because I was so terrified of it being true that I ended up believing it despite it numerous flaws.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10]
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The Blind Ass said: ... We cannot break through into the intrinsic spaciousness of our mind stream unless we suspend our belief in conventional reality as real and true. Moral truth, scientific truth, assumptions about the actual content of our sensory experience, all must be subsumed under the heading of 'lies', 'falsehood', 'unreality'.
The entire belief system by which we relate professionally, socially and sexually, domestically and personally, must be undermined, deconstructed and rendered ineffectual. Every belief system is hypothetical, a superficial construction, capable of replacement by an alternative set of beliefs. It is all delusion. It is deceiving, duplicitous, spurious fiction. It is a lie. In that way, by rejecting fact as 'true', we begin to relieve ourselves of the density and heaviness, not to say bigotry, of our beliefs about the nature of reality.
All a lie, even solipsism. All subsuming lie, regardless of a character on your screen that is spelled Thanatos10 and the word appearing beside the name, regardless of what they say - those squiggles of text composed of a sequence of 1’s and 0’s- they are all lie.
Labels are for the birds, reality is hyper-nameless and not a word can be said of it in its true nature. Mere approximation, performed by an ignorant, highly fallible human animal of the mammalian type - subject to delusions, illusions, and a host of hindrances and distractions. All attempts to speak of it are symbolic at best. ****
Without 2 truths doctrine , we would have to stop right there, at least in a philosophical debate or any debate or discussion in which we all have agreed to terms and their definitions before hand.
The thing that seems to make solipsism the most untrue/impractical/boring as a philosophy for me is that it takes a position of certainty on the unknowable
while solipsism makes certain the claim that nothing exists outside the entity Madhyamaka asks the question whether things can be known to exist, or even the entity -- the position is that both are uncertain because they depend on each other can't have experiences without an experiencer; no real experiencer without experiences
that is where the two-truths becomes of interest to me it starts asking questions of the implications of reality; recognizing the ultimate emptiness of reality while examining what that emptiness means for the lived experience
I’m slowly working past solipsism as I find it to be rather insufficient to explain things and I’m becoming aware of the glaring holes in it.
I guess in this case my fear overwrote my logical thinking because I was so terrified of it being true that I ended up believing it despite it numerous flaws.

I'm still terrified of the concept of rebirth, despite being able to find logical flaws with it and not personally holding a belief in it ideas and concepts can get fucky in how they play with the brain sometimes
let's not even start with OCD causing me to perform actions in attempts to offset imagined reprecussions even if we provisionally think of the actions performed as being real
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 isn't real. You are all wasting your time in this thread. The laws of the universe make it clear that Thanatos10 is a fairy tale. A bad fairy tale at that.
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Niffla said: Thanatos10 isn't real. You are all wasting your time in this thread. The laws of the universe make it clear that Thanatos10 is a fairy tale. A bad fairy tale at that.

is this the zZZz19 vaccine kicking in?
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I used to believe Thanatos10 was real but I think I'm getting better
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10] 3
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Thanatos10 said: I’m slowly working past solipsism as I find it to be rather insufficient to explain things and I’m becoming aware of the glaring holes in it.
I guess in this case my fear overwrote my logical thinking because I was so terrified of it being true that I ended up believing it despite it numerous flaws.
I really admire the humility you show in this post.
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Niffla said: Thanatos10 isn't real. You are all wasting your time in this thread. The laws of the universe make it clear that Thanatos10 is a fairy tale. A bad fairy tale at that.

is this the zZZz19 vaccine kicking in?
Yes the zZZz-19 vaccine works
I'm back to my normal self
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Belief in Thanatos is just how they control your mind man. They use that to make you their slaves man..
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Dont do it bro. The Spirit Realm will punish u for suicide. Its not worth it man!
WTF!? DO NOT threaten suicide so easily like it's nothing Thanotos!
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: tyrannicalrex] 2
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The Z-19 must still be in me
Because
Thanatos I'm sorry and
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I guess in this case my fear overwrote my logical thinking because I was so terrified of it being true that I ended up believing it despite it numerous flaws.
I really admire the humility you show in this post.
It’s the truth. Most of the time I end up stuck in a belief is out of fear, not logic or reason.
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I know. Again, this is how it goes for all of us.
The problem is that so many (all?) are not 100% honest with themselves (IMO; perhaps 100% is not possible) and so cannot be honest with the world.
In truth, fear is what drives so much of what we do, IME. Few would admit that though.
As some wise man once said; 'bravery is not the absence of fear, it is mastery of it'.
As I said before, I see nothing wrong with this, for I accept the fact that I am most often a weak, damaged, and fearful creature - although - I certainly have some moments of being 'greater than the sum of my parts' too.
Most often, those moments come when I have a good method of cathartic release of strong emotion, and good discipline and routine (and also, a lack of indulgence in harmful thinking and habits).
It's not rocket science, this 'being good at the human condition' game. Like any game, it just takes lots of practice and trial and error.
It sounds to me (as it does for the others here that have been there) like your solipism experiments belong in the latter category.
Be brave brother!!
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Here, suck on this:
Be not afraid of life. Believe that life is worth living, and your belief will help create the fact.
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Jokeshopbeard said: I know. Again, this is how it goes for all of us.
The problem is that so many (all?) are not 100% honest with themselves (IMO; perhaps 100% is not possible) and so cannot be honest with the world.
In truth, fear is what drives so much of what we do, IME. Few would admit that though.
As some wise man once said; 'bravery is not the absence of fear, it is mastery of it'.
As I said before, I see nothing wrong with this, for I accept the fact that I am most often a weak, damaged, and fearful creature - although - I certainly have some moments of being 'greater than the sum of my parts' too.
Most often, those moments come when I have a good method of cathartic release of strong emotion, and good discipline and routine (and also, a lack of indulgence in harmful thinking and habits).
It's not rocket science, this 'being good at the human condition' game. Like any game, it just takes lots of practice and trial and error.
It sounds to me (as it does for the others here that have been there) like your solipism experiments belong in the latter category.
Be brave brother!!
Honestly I only stuck with it because I was scared, when my logic told me it was nonsense and I had no reason to believe it. But fear is powerful and sometimes it feels right when it’s not. I’m learning what is genuine curiosity and what is fear and insecurity. Fear is helpful, yes, but not in the ways one often thinks. Some of those things are terrifying but I can’t be ruled by that, otherwise I’m stuck in the mire I was these past four years.
But I do lack a routine which is probably harming me and I definitely lack discipline. It’s likely why the stuff that bothers me doesn’t bother others, I am squishy and soft.
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10] 1
#26619944 - 04/22/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Admitting it is the first step man. More power to you!!
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10]
#26619949 - 04/22/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh really? Squishy and soft you say?
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26620089 - 04/22/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes. I cave easily to people who don’t agree with me or when I see or hear something and I don’t have an answer to it. I’m pretty squishy when it comes to new ideas and my discernment is essentially next to zero. If it’s scary I’ll believe it, which is counter productive
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: Thanatos10] 1
#26620098 - 04/22/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would attribute that to your age young man. (I never thought I'd say something like that, lol)
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Re: I'm beginning to think Thanatos10 is a figment of our collective imagination [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26620189 - 04/22/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry I was insensitive before thanatos
I didn't see some of your posts before
bring it in
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