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Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake?
    #26614645 - 04/20/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Last night I did 2.5 g in a tea boiled 2 cups, with ginger root, reduced down to 1.5 cups and drank. Barely had any open eye visuals, definitely felt it though had some closed eye visuals for sure, very vivid. My question is I know 2.5 should mess me up a bit more than that, does the heat in the tea kill the actives or did I not boil long enough? or is it less effecient overall to do it in a tea?  the mushrooms I have, I have eaten .25 microdose on an empty stomach I can start to feel it and get giggly so I know they are somewhat potent. Any insight?


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: DeckardCain]
    #26614664 - 04/20/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not that I am aware of.

I can also feel 0.25g and yet I don't have OEVs on 2.5g no matter the method of ingestion.

How long did you boil for?


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: DeckardCain]
    #26614666 - 04/20/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They way I do it is is to use a blender to create a homogenized  powder from dry mushrooms.

Then I put that in a tea bag with some lemon peel and ginger shavings and let it steep in 10 oz of water for 20-30-45mins after having just boiled water that’s scolding hot and ready to go.  If I want a 5 gram trip, I’ll weigh out 6.5grams or so of the dry fungi powder to compensate for any loss from not also eating the powder - I just drink the tea and throw away the tea bag after the steep. 20-30-45mins steep is good.

Once it’s steeped for 20-30-45mins in the hot water and before I throw out the bag, I strain it without breaking the teabag it’s inside of in order to get any residual liquids out and then Dispose of the teabag and drink the concoction.  Blast off 15 minutes later into another dimension.  Like a 4 hour dmt trip depending on the potency of the mush.  Never failed me once that way.

Just my experience.  Once I began doing it this way, I’ve never gone back.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26614676 - 04/20/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the info, I’ll try grinding it down next time and steeping for longer,
And for the other comment I’ve had a trip before that was very strong on less than 2 grams, but I’ll keep that in mind, next time I’ll go for 3.5 probably
Edit I Boiled for like 5 minutes maybe; however long it took it to reduce to 1.5 cups (the amount that fills my mug)


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: DeckardCain]
    #26614684 - 04/20/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26614689 - 04/20/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don’t boil the tea bag full of mushrooms itself , just the water.  Letting it steep for 20-30- or even 45mins gets the job done right after I turn off the stove.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26614721 - 04/20/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: DeckardCain]
    #26614931 - 04/20/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I like to make tea with a tea bags then remove bags and throw in crushed shrooms and boil the fuck out of them for 15min. I add some lemon juice at the beginning of the boil also. They dont need to be ground up, crushed is fine:thumbup: iv haven’t noticed any decrease in potency at all, I actually trip harder with this method sometimes.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: SFS96]
    #26621935 - 04/23/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Tea loads of info here for ya. :cheers:
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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
    #26621937 - 04/23/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

less water make it a shot....


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26622005 - 04/23/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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They way I do it is is to use a blender to create a homogenized  powder from dry mushrooms.

Then I put that in a tea bag





I do something similar with MG Seeds or if I'm not in the mood to force down some powdered Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. I do it in cold water, though, because these seeds aren't precious and as hard to come by as shrooms. So I'm not concerned about extraction efficiency. At some point, I definitely intend to try the method of shrooms-tea you and others have been extolling the virtues of. Just to see what all the fuss is about.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26622095 - 04/23/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Mmmmmmm mmm hmmmm. Tea.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26622110 - 04/23/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Gotta make it acidic and have the highest contact surface by grinding the shrooms with a weed grinder. You don't need to boil;. I used lukewarm lemon concentrate that I shake in my hand for heat (mason jar). Filter after 30 minutes. I always get as high as eating shrooms.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26622164 - 04/23/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I use whole mushrooms and just squeeze them at the end. I make herb tea, remove the bags, put the shrooms in, boil for 10 minutes, let it cool for a little while and squeeze them out. They're like little sponges and that's the way to get the least amount of sediments IMO.

Add some sugar and lemon and drink it up.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: poisoned] * 1
    #26622187 - 04/23/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I suggest you add lemon to the boiling water instead of after. The acidity help with cell lysis and helps alkaloids leak into the water.

Some people propose the a fraction of the psilocybin is hydrolyzed with heat and acidic conditions to produce more psilocin which increases and shortens the high.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26622473 - 04/23/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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20 min boil minimum




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A couple minutes plus steeping for 5-10 is plenty every time.

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26623326 - 04/23/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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20 min boil minimum




:nojustno:

A couple minutes plus steeping for 5-10 is plenty every time.

:snoopyes:




I followed that link and now am more confused, they’re adding citric acid, I’m assuming juice from a fresh lemon would work? How much would you use when using dried fruits? Would it taste weird with ginger do you think?


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: DeckardCain]
    #26623406 - 04/23/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

fresh lemon or concentrate. Both work. I've done it.

My trick is to use a small volume (1 fisherman shooter) of only lemon juice or concentrate. So, it doesn't matter if it tastes sour.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26623788 - 04/24/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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A couple minutes plus steeping for 5-10 is plenty every time.

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I followed that link and now am more confused, they’re adding citric acid, I’m assuming juice from a fresh lemon would work? How much would you use when using dried fruits? Would it taste weird with ginger do you think?




It works with dried fruits but the taste of the tea is better made from fresh.  Yeah you could use lemon juice it's mostly citric acid in terms of what it does.  It doesn't matter if you get too much in only if not enough.  2% or whatever I said of citric acid gets the job done, more wasn't better. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26623806 - 04/24/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I can’t taste mushrooms from a dried tea. I never tried it from fesh mushrooms.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: DeckardCain]
    #26624653 - 04/24/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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20 min boil minimum




:nojustno:

A couple minutes plus steeping for 5-10 is plenty every time.

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I followed that link and now am more confused, they’re adding citric acid, I’m assuming juice from a fresh lemon would work? How much would you use when using dried fruits? Would it taste weird with ginger do you think?




I always make my mushroom teabags with ginger, lemon, and chamomile and sometimes a couple other flavors.  Helps with nausea, and it tastes fantastic.

Give it a really nice spice and lite citric-floral-fruit flavor.  The mushroom flavor itself is usually practically none existent or extremely mild.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26624850 - 04/24/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Probably matters more when your doses are in the 200 g fresh range, I suppose. :laugh2:  I only dry shrooms if there's a real excess I need to preserve or for giving away... :shrug:


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26625531 - 04/24/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You dose 200g fresh in tea?


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26625593 - 04/24/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26625689 - 04/24/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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You dose 200g fresh in tea?




Yeah, when doing multiple days a week for a month or more.  Maximum tolerance is a bitch, fortunately it's possible to make a tea that just takes 100cc for that kind of dosage.  Also why I'm growing PE pretty exclusively, gets it down to between 125-150 g fresh weight. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26625703 - 04/24/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You're so intense :lol:


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26625715 - 04/24/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Only sometimes. :laugh2:  When I want to trip that often it's best to be prepared.  OTOH, huge fun. :yeahthatsright:


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26625723 - 04/24/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

It would be interesting.

Been a while since ive gone deeper myself

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26625732 - 04/24/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's not like I planned to go at daily at first.  I doubled up on consecutive days and found that was more useful than just once in a while.  One thing led to another, really interesting shit started happening, and there never was any sort of hangover worth mentioning.  So WTF I encourage people to try it and some do.

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26625737 - 04/24/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Dont have the time these days

Maybe the future

Kinda why i wana start doing more dmt extractions and working with that

I imagine some interesting things do happen...

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26625764 - 04/24/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I had to make the time by changing what I did.  I've got documentation in my journals about some of it.  Might look at "primal's tripping point" which is a rare trip report I've posted. 

Here's a post with good links in it: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22389896#22389896


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26625909 - 04/24/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

"If you discover it for yourself you'll understand"

I dig it

I made time for a while. Was just growing, selling, reading and meditating, exercise and what not, taking some college courses. Lots of tripping :lol:

Did a lot of internal work and searching. Kinda on that path and journey to the source, ya know?

Had a lot of work to do in the material recently, changed direction a bit and wound up on a new path

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26627498 - 04/25/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

And then the synchronicities start...  :utterconfusion:


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: DeckardCain]
    #26629110 - 04/26/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you everyone
I did a tea with 35g freshies following a lot of your advices used juice from half a lemon in it (way too much but whatever) some ginger boiled for 10 simmered for another 10-12 minutes added some honey and blasted off . Never have had a better time in my life


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    #26629182 - 04/26/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26632494 - 04/27/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So much mis info in here wow.

I've done around 40 trips making a tea. (PE and doses between 1-15g)

I always powder them first in a coffee bean grinder.

Then I boil a cup of water and add in a tea bag of choice and let boil for about a minute to get the contents out of the teabag. Remove teabag.

Then remove from heat and stir in powdered mushrooms. Continue stirring for 30 seconds.

I then strain thru a reusable coffee filter and then add ice cubes and drink.

Works incredibly perfect every single time.


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: light4x]
    #26647938 - 05/04/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Don’t boil! Only let it steep for 10 minutes in warm water. 1 cup of water steep 10 minutes, then strain and add one more cup of water and steep 10 more minutes. Boiling destroys the goodies.


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    #26647959 - 05/04/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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    #26648355 - 05/04/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Boiling hurts nothing.  :nojustno:


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #28583398 - 12/15/23 03:18 AM (1 month, 13 days ago)

From a complete tea noob: why not?

How does the mycelium withstand boiling temperature, especially over an extended period?

Wouldn't that kill... something?


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Bajuk] * 1
    #28584992 - 12/16/23 07:40 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

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Bajuk said:
From a complete tea noob: why not?

How does the mycelium withstand boiling temperature, especially over an extended period?

Wouldn't that kill... something?




Mycelium will die if you put it in boiling water. But we are talking about the mushroom part that contains psilocybin. Psilocybin will not vanish anywhere in boiling temperatures - no matter how long you let your shrooms boil :yesnod::mushroom2:


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Re: Does Making mushroom tea lower your total psilocybin intake? [Re: Capt. Ramius]
    #28588176 - 12/18/23 10:32 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

I have found a significant amount gets left in my grinder if I don't clean it out and put the residue into the dose


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