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Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate?
#26614384 - 04/20/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is my second grow and the mycelium looks much clumpier and darker than last time. Somebody on reddit advised that it's most probably infected but I'm unsure. A second opinion would be very helpful.
Also, if it's not infected, is this ready to fruit or do I need to wait until all the substrate is totally white?
Any advice would be very much appreciated.
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: Mrunishef]
#26614467 - 04/20/20 06:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Honestly those hair-like strands look like mold. Would you post a pic of the top of the substrate?
Many people nowadays don't distinct between colonizing and fruiting conditions. They provide FAE right after spawning, me too.
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: Ombisha]
#26614479 - 04/20/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hard to tell by the picture. There is something on the lower right that has a bluish colour that is concerning. Would be a good idea to line your tub with a garbage bag next time. The light going through the tub will cause mushrooms to grow out the sides of the cake against the tub and rot out on you.
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: PiggyPig] 1
#26614484 - 04/20/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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PiggyPig said: The light going through the tub will cause mushrooms to grow out the sides of the cake against the tub and rot out on you.
This is false. The light doesn't cause this. Sidepins happen, because as the sub shrinks, between the sub and the tub is created suitable microclimate. The liner will stay on the sub, therefore solving this issue... although best solution for sidepins is providing good surface conditions.
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: Ombisha]
#26620319 - 04/22/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi thanks for the reply
I'd send more photos but things have gone from bad to worse and I'm certain it's game over. I have blue and white mould plus cobwebs crawling all over so the signs aren't good. Thanks though for the interest in helping.
If you wouldn't mind, what exactly do you mean by no difference between colonising and fruiting conditions? Literally inject the substrate and pop the lid at the same time?
Also, I'm fed up of working with the standard grow kits. What might be the easiest way to grown myself without going full breaking bad?
Much appreciated
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: Mrunishef]
#26621437 - 04/23/20 03:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mrunishef said: If you wouldn't mind, what exactly do you mean by no difference between colonising and fruiting conditions?
Okey, so the question of fruiting/colonizing conditions comes up only after you mix your colonised spawn with bulk substrate.
In the past, people would limit the amount of fresh air that the tub was getting during colonising. Only after the bulk sub was 100% colonised, they would provide adequate air exchange.
Nowadays, people often don't make this distinction between the two phases. They simply provide fresh air right after spawning.
Both of these things work and people do both, but no one seems to be able to say which is better...
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Also, I'm fed up of working with the standard grow kits. What might be the easiest way to grown myself without going full breaking bad?
Well, easiest might be brf cakes... but you will not get very good, or reliable results if you are knocking them up with spores... The alternative to spores is learning agar, which will get you clean cultures, but at that point its better to also just learn making grain spawn, then doing brf cakes.
Doing tubs really is not that hard, but if you don't want to dedicate those hours to learning, then brf cakes might be for you...
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: Ombisha]
#26621447 - 04/23/20 03:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you don't want to go full breaking bad, just do a small amount of shoeboxes. It's still hard not to overproduce tho. I'm often bored out and just prep some grain, lol. Or, I get sketched that something contaminated and I go prep some grain. Then you end up with a shit ton of shoeboxes growing at the same time.
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: poisoned] 1
#26621507 - 04/23/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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i would recommend that too... but i can imagine that PC, grain/cvg prep, agar and such might be breaking bad for some people
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: Ombisha]
#26622221 - 04/23/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ha! Mushroom over production is definately the type of problem I want.
Thanks for the heads up, I've done some reading and grain seems the best way forward. Off to buy my pressure cooker now!
As for Agar, seems fascinating, definately the way forward. Is it possible to do without an air flow hood? Possibly a step to far right now...
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: Mrunishef]
#26622339 - 04/23/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, agar can be easily done in a SAB. No need for a flowhood and you'll need SAB anyways. It helps you develop cleaner procedures and cleaner cultures.
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Re: Newbie here - is there something wrong with this substrate? [Re: poisoned]
#26622441 - 04/23/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Definitely need a surface shot.
Those thicker strands on the side looks like the same thing plates do when they start to pin.
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