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OfflineSeekerOfRepair
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Could Psychedelics fix me?
    #26613745 - 04/19/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I am going through a tough time.
Basically I have been badly hurt psychologically and then things got worse.

Basically I have been having nightmares from that incident and thoughts that haunt me.

Can psychedelics help me accept that nothing last forever?


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: SeekerOfRepair] * 1
    #26613753 - 04/19/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

yes


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Blazer420]
    #26613767 - 04/19/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No only you are going to come to that realization. psyches may help as a hard reset but communication and time are a surer way. lot of good people around here that will be willing to talk including me. personal exp drug use usually doesn't solve problems long term.:hug:


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Blazer420]
    #26613780 - 04/19/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Can they, yes. Will they, no clue but it's more likely that psychedelics will show you an alternative viewpoint of the situation that you are going through instead of outright "fixing you" instantly. BUT I have had trips that I credit to completely shattering undesirable paradigms in a matter of hours. As well as gaining peace with things I did and didn't know bothered me. Once again, best wishes.


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: SeekerOfRepair]
    #26613792 - 04/19/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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SeekerOfRepair said:
I am going through a tough time.
Basically I have been badly hurt psychologically and then things got worse.

Basically I have been having nightmares from that incident and thoughts that haunt me.

Can psychedelics help me accept that nothing last forever?




Let start by first asking you what you think the answer to your question is and what you expect to happen?  Also, at present there is insufficient context to your situation for me to attempt to assess.


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26613826 - 04/19/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They won't do the work for you, but they may help to show you the path


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26613832 - 04/19/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Psychedelics are not a miracle cure for anything.

BUT

They can, and almost always provide another perspective on your experience. Don't think for a moment that addressing issues with psychedelics will be pleasant, it's definitely not. But after being forced to reset and resee your issues you may come away feeling completely different about them. They will give you a tool that you may or may not be able to use. There's no guarantee that it will work, and there's the possibility they can make things worse as well. It's not risk free.

If you are suffering from PTSD or recovering from other serious traumatic experiences you might want to hold off. Psychedelics can make you relive these things, mercilessly. There's so many variables. It's really all in your mind.

There's many people here who have had their broken lives turned around by these substances, but there's others who have found themselves worse off. Maybe you need to talk more about your intentions and your expectations before embarking.


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Northerner]
    #26613851 - 04/19/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A lot of great advice from the folks above.

Just to add:

Don’t put all of your hope into the idea of psychedelics “fixing” you. They may severely disappoint you. This is not to say that they can’t be transformative, but bad trips and/or “meaningless” trips are just as common. And if you have a bad experience, you might blame them for “failing” you.

They helped me. But it wasn’t a quick fix. It took years after my first mushroom experience to see sustained effects of that trip. As stated above, you need to put in the work. Adopting a hobby, a new exercise routine, etc could be just as helpful. Ultimately, if you do your part, whatever you choose to do, so long as it’s for your betterment, will be the right choice.

Good luck!


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Socrateshroom] * 1
    #26614032 - 04/19/20 10:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

i see the mind as something akin to a house - it's got many doors that open to rooms of memories - some are more tidy than others. some are cluttered, dark, and full of of mindspiders...man eating manspiders. so many mindspiders. ,,(,, ';.;' ,,),,

then there's the great wilderness outside your "mental house", the unknowns that you brave when you learn new things. sometimes you discover things you like and bring them into your house and make them part of yourself, trophies to hang up and make a part of your personality. new hobbies, for instance, or a new view on life. some people's inner worlds are tiny, because they're so afraid of this great unknown that they never venture far beyond their inner worlds boundaries... and thus, never truly feel, hear, or think much in the outer world. you know these kinds of people. they go around, listening to fox news, doing the things their forebearers did because "that's the way things have always been done", and so forth.

psychedelics don't really "fix" you, persay. they don't slay those mindspiders. they don't summon a bunch of magic brooms to clean and tidy your mental rooms for you. you gotta do all the work yourself still. all they do... is give you a light, and help oil the hinges for those rusty doors that normally are stuck closed. those doors full of scary mindspiders. thankfully, they don't like the light much, and you can use that to your advantage.

you still gotta slay them - but as every arachnophobe discovers eventually, a spiders apparent size is far greater than the actual corpse on the newspaper. once you realize that, the task goes from sheer terror to mild disgust. (and slight terror.) that and the mental effort still has to be put in.

in other words - you will have to want to change. you will have to accept you may suffer an unpleasant trip, it may be one of the most unpleasant or terrifying experiences of your lifetime (or it may be the complete opposite! or heck, even both. even at the same time). you have to be willing to go with the flow, to listen to what it's saying without judgement, and reflect on it. it's a lot like dream interpretation - you're communicating with your deeper self on a very visual and emotional level, where mundane language fails. symbolism is highly personal and important here.

neuroticism is not your friend when it comes to tripping. don't sweat the small stuff. do a ritual of some sort if it helps calm you. make sure to get a great nights sleep, make sure you have had no arguments or the like weighing your mind down while tripping, don't eat a heavy meal beforehand (a light snack or a meal a few hours before is fine), and make sure your room and self are clean. set and setting are important, and things like this will help ensure your trip goes smoothly and as pleasantly as possible. have a playlist of relaxing music that puts you in a good mood ready as well - a lot of people LOVE music on shrooms, because of the added depth it often takes. i personally love looking at art on shrooms too.

oh and... have a barf bucket on hand just in case you're one of the unlucky ones that gets nauseous during the come up. its surprisingly hard to get to the bathroom in time sometimes, and having one on hand is much nicer than having to clean up a mess. :P thankfully the nausea goes away fairly quickly - it's mainly during the first half hour to hour or so. tea tends to be easier on the gut, but i'm one of those sensitive souls i guess.


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Psion]
    #26614105 - 04/19/20 11:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If there's anything that I've found out.. is its all about the experience. If you haven't tried them.. all you can do is try them. See how it feels and move forward. For some people it's not the choice of substance (though I would recommend psyches over mostly anything else).

Maybe try and work on yourself a bit first before indulging into an experience. They won't do the work for you, but maybe they will help give you a blueprint on what you can do differently in your life to help recover from whatever it is you've been through.

I wish you the best.


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26614142 - 04/20/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Also, start low and go slow.  Don't let anyone talk you into jumping into a heavy dose to start.
A microdose is about .1g, start there and try .2 if that isn't enough
Some like the feeling .5g gives them

If you want more of a trip feeling..
1-1.5g for a light trip
If you go up by .25 or .5g each time you won't need to worry so much
It's these people that start off taking ridicoulous amounts that have trouble


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26614151 - 04/20/20 12:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe. They can also make things worse. If you're depressed or suffering from anxiety there's a chance you could have a bad trip. I would use a more loving Psychedelic like lsd and cactus. Stay the fuck away from ayahuasca while you're depressed! That shit will fuck you up! Get ahold of a couple xanax so you have something incase things go bad . That's my advice...


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26614154 - 04/20/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lol. i started off with 5g and had no issues myself. had a light trip in fact.

that said, it depends on you. if you're a neurotic person who worries over small details and has issues with making mountains out of molehills in general... start small and work your way up, because psychedelics do NOT let you drive. they're like dreams in a lot of ways - you do not control the dream to any extent (unless you've got a lot of practice under your belt, in which case you might be able to guide it) - it tells you where to go and you sit down and stop yelling, don't make it go back there and break out the belt damnit!

on the other hand, if you're a person who tends to be laid back and goes with the flow, handles the unexpected easily, the kind of person who would cuddle werewolves and chat with ghosts about the afterlife, start heroic, you're probably the kind of personality that does well jumping off the springboard right off the bat.

wishy-washy personalities would probably get wishy-washy doses, i'd assume. :P


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Psion]
    #26614171 - 04/20/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A psychedelic by itself can’t fix you.  But you might be able to use it to get your defenses down long enough to do some soul searching, after which you can work from there and over time if your serious - or not serious enough depending on your perspective - you may let the whole thing go in an instant and move on with your life.  Without context  I can only make conjecture.

Keep researching into it, read countless trip reports of others experiences to get a sense of its potential - read hundreds if you really want to - read about its benefits, Sid effects, its dangers, and maybe find out what your mental map or matrix will be for it in terms of your own beliefs and other world beliefs.  Can’t hurt to be self educated about it all.

Talk with a variety of people who grow their own and use it, and others.  Do all you can, I imagine it will all culminate to help you in your endeavors.

Also,  read about your problem whatever it is from a mythological folktale perspective, psychological perspective, medical perspective, humanism , religious, and secular and mystical or spiritual perspectives on it, the nature of mind, dreaming, etc.

It’s all fuel for the fire.  Start working on yourself now before you even begin to actually consider taking any psychedelic , that’ll help you way more than you’d imagine.

Check out some a Joseph Campbell, Jordan Peterson, Jung, Buddhism, Christianity, Modern Psychology and Medicine and Shamanism.


This is probably over kill...but it Can’t literally hurt ya. 

And when your ready, able, and set, take the plunge if that’s your wish.


Edited by The Blind Ass (04/20/20 10:44 AM)


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26614238 - 04/20/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Mushrooms saved my uncles life. They can b very healing if used appropriately.


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: SFS96]
    #26614243 - 04/20/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It all depends on your brain. If you have an anxiety disorder be careful. Only you understand your mind. No one on here can answer that question..


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26614244 - 04/20/20 02:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you want to accept nothing lasts forever I recommend freebase nndmt :lol:.. You'll except it real fast lol!!! The great thing about freebase dmt is that it only lasts like 5 or 10 min. I'm more afraid of mushrooms than I am of freebase dmt. Most people are the other way around...


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Re: Could Psychedelics fix me? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26614949 - 04/20/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Shenmue said:
If you want to accept nothing lasts forever I recommend freebase nndmt :lol:.. You'll except it real fast lol!!! The great thing about freebase dmt is that it only lasts like 5 or 10 min. I'm more afraid of mushrooms than I am of freebase dmt. Most people are the other way around...




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