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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Kat419]
    #26626155 - 04/25/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

But if they’re metabolites what are those caused by?

If you g2ged something similar looking or still have anything originating from those jars they should all be cleaned out.


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Kat419]
    #26626186 - 04/25/20 03:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



Did you not smell it before u spawned it? Oh man i bet it was raunchy! That tub looks absolutely doomed.


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Ababyphoenix]
    #26626192 - 04/25/20 03:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Dont hesitate to ask in forums early on before you go all the way to birthing. I consult the experts here on all the steps as Im doing my first agar--grain--shoebox grow. But a rule of thumb I have brought with me from all my failed trials is that if it gives you a "eww that looks rotten" or "eww that does nto look healthy" then its probably not healthy. Its almost like with food, you get a feeling when its off.


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Kat419]
    #26626840 - 04/25/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Ok ok thanks lol I was hoping those were just metabolites



Some of it probably is, however metabolites happen because they aren't happy.  If they are metabolites, it's a LOT and they are really not happy at all.  Either way, that jar is really, really not healthy at all.  In the future if you have a grain jar looking like that, I'd say just toss it.  Or bury it in your backyard and see if any mushrooms randomly happen, but not worth doing a controlled grow with.


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Ababyphoenix]
    #26632453 - 04/27/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I smelled all 7 jars while spawning and they all had the same odor. Not sure what they should smell like but it was "earthy".


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Kat419]
    #26632458 - 04/27/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I smelled all 7 jars while spawning and they all had the same odor. Not sure what they should smell like but it was "earthy".




I had a link pertaining to that kind of info hold on let me check my notebook.

Signs of Contamination, good write up on contams, smells, looks and how to avoid

Once u get a good jar of clean myc make sure u save that smell in ur head. You'll never mistake another bad jar again on smell yet alone looks.

The jar u shared a picture of that you said looked like the one you used looks exactly like the first picture on that contamination write up! lol. Better luck next time but for now id say that tub is :boofbanana:


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Growtech]
    #26632471 - 04/27/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Pure white or toss got it 👌 thanks for the help my dudes, hopefully I'll get fruits someday


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Kat419]
    #26632510 - 04/27/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Pure white or toss got it �� thanks for the help my dudes, hopefully I'll get fruits someday



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Metabolites - Although a large amount of metabolites often indicates contamination, small amounts are common on fully colonized substrates and spawn/PF jars. Metabolites are normally yellow but red metabolites sometimes occur in spawn jars. Metabolites may also appear as a yelllow discoloration of the mycelium.




Mostly you want pure white and the beautiful clean myc smell but look over that link i sent ya it's not AWLAYS the case.

Oh man it hurts to hear you talk like that! You'll get some mushies man i believe, Cubensis are easy just grab some agar! The reason most people can get away with starting spores straight to grain is because Cubensis is hardy as shit and will still give u some fruit even if it has some trich waiting to bust. You just got unlucky with ur first jars.

All in all look into agar, it's super simple middle school science project level stuff and will take ur mushroom work from 0-100 in a couple months as well as bring u peace of mind by being able to start spores on a 2D surface and transfer away from black bead molds and avoid future mold bricks. Not only that but if you get someslants you'll be able to shut down shop for years and get another tub going in under a week.

Hope some of this helped. I know why people badgered me about agar when i first started now. God i shouldve just wasted no time and got a PC and some glad mini rounds and got it done right.


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Ababyphoenix]
    #26632555 - 04/27/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The sad part is I started from agar transfers and it still contaminated :frown: , just need to work on sterile procedure I guess.


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Re: What kind of contam is this? Black beads? [Re: Kat419] * 1
    #26632579 - 04/27/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Agar can certainly be contaminated. It's not as though just using it guarantees you are good. It will punish you just as hard if not paying attention, in fact it allows you to multiply contams infinately if you get carried away. Ask me how I know...

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