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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26614853 - 04/20/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Can you fucking read?


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26614855 - 04/20/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ignorance is the main cause, how we deal with it differs. we start off in ignorance, and work from within it.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26614869 - 04/20/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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InfiniteDreams said:
You just don't want us to be in agreement.



You have no idea what I want or what I don't.

Such hubris sir; 'tis not becoming of you!!


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: koraks]
    #26614871 - 04/20/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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koraks said:
I'm not referring to mental illness. I'm referring to people who are sane, but emotionally stressed by the situation and as a result fail to acknowledge it, and instead choose to construct fairy tales.




If it results from being emotionally stressed by the situation then it at least relates to mental health, even if the threshold for "mental illness" is not met in all such cases.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: gopher] * 2
    #26614899 - 04/20/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:


My weight loss really took off after taking formal nutrition courses and I've kept it off ever since.





what kinda things did you learn in the course? I dont know if its true but I heard doctors only get like a week on nutrition and it was mostly something weird like metabolic pathways of vitamins or something like that I forget what I heard, but it wasnt stuff related to like general health through eating



a sampling







by the way, this is the amount of reading material assigned to registered nurses in school. Doctors have significantly more



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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26614906 - 04/20/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I want that first binder you posted, but I think chapter 5 would make me rage


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: psi]
    #26614913 - 04/20/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I get why people feel like the whole thing stinks though. The coordinated lockdowns worldwide really feel like "one world government" type stuff. I have no doubt that the disease is real and dangerous but I would not rule out the possibility that it may be a manmade contagion and/or was intentionally released.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: gopher] * 1
    #26614925 - 04/20/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That is the textbook for the nutrition course.

It doesn't say anything rageworthy.

It describes how the pancreas works, what insulin does, the specific glycemic load/index of foods, how to treat type 1 vs type 2 diabetes from a nutritional standpoint, etc.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26614943 - 04/20/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I like the way the snake diet guy treats type 1 diabetics, he gets them drinking a shitload of sodium/potassium water to stay hydrated, he says that helps reduce incidents of ketoacidosis, he takes away their long acting insulin cause it will cause lows on his diet, puts them on one meal a day and works them down to where they only have to take like a really small amount of the short acting insulin, IIRC like half a unit, he recently quit youtube though, but set up a hot line lol 1-780-898-1878


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Since Disney has obtained tremendous value from the public domain, knows how important the public domain is, and is firmly determined to never contribute anything to it.

My pronouns are He and Him, and my adjectives are Fat and Jazzy

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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26614944 - 04/20/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:themoreyouknow:
:goodmorning: . . . :peace:


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: vinsue]
    #26614989 - 04/20/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Whats hoaxy about this?

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Total Deaths 166,794




For 166,794 families its not a hoax, mine included.

Worldwide, Covid Be Like:



And already so many dead.

We hit an iceberg and are making water.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: Asante] * 3
    #26615330 - 04/20/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’d like to reach out and break bread with all of the non believers and “hoaxers”.

First - just to be clear on my previous statements.. the pandemic is real, I witness it at work on the regs and it is a big fucking deal. 

That being said.. there is a ton of misinformation flying around out there. So much so that anyone who spends ten minutes doing research that they will have cause to be suspicious.

Stop denying that there is a global pandemic that is killing a shit ton of people that would NOT have died last year.

Ask questions like, why are we so unprepared to deal with this? Why isn’t the news reporting on demographics related to deaths? Specifically age, gender, comorbidities etc?

Why haven’t there been a shit ton of scientific studies been done in everyone’s individual country on this disease?

WHY DID CHINA PUT A CLAUSE IN THE TRADE DEAL SIGNED ON JANUARY 15th 2020 STATING THEY ARE BASICALLY EXEPT FROM THE DEAL IN THE EVENT OF AN ACT OF GOD (SUCH AS A PANDEMIC). Yeah. This is true. Clause 7.6 I believe. The fuckers knew, and we got hosed. 

I care about the well being of all people. That is why I put up the strong argument stating the COVID be real. I want everyone to have happy productive lives where they don’t die or have their family members die needlessly.

Hamhead. You have the right to question the pandemic. We can be bro’s one day.. but we will need a mediator and 6-12 months of separation. I hope you had a great day at work. 👍🏼

Love and hate will equal out to neutral in the end.

Peace for now.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: FrancoAmerican] * 1
    #26615347 - 04/20/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Beautiful reconciliation!!  / fig leaf / Olive branch.... apt for the start of a FrancoXHamHead Ship of bromance

:tellmeastory:


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26615878 - 04/20/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
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Given that the CDC changed the reporting criteria for the Rona on death certificates, to include suspected (i.e. untested) cases, and cases where the Rona was only a contributing factor...




they are not artificially high. coronavirus is causing people with other diseases to die of those diseases. The labs make it very obvious whether or not someone has Covid-19, even without a test. Honestly the tests are shit, the clinical judgment of a doctor is almost certainly a more reliable indicator than the test.


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nobody would have noticed there was a pandemic,



holy fuck you are dumb

No. Are you? You seem unable to think logically about numbers.

Are you usually this obnoxious, or is it the emotional brainwashing making you an obnoxious bedwetter? Try to remain calm and try to accept people have a right to a different opinion, based on wider research than walking through a hospital.

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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26615984 - 04/20/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Interesting view.  Everyone's health is not equal.  Some are more deserving of health.






A) i would love to hear YOUR proposal for how we determine who deserves to live and die

B) in a situation where there are more patients than resources, you bet your ass that doctors use the equipment on the people who are more likely to live.




IMO, no one deserves any thing.

What makes one person more deserving than another?

More money?

High IQ?

More children?

Political powers?

Anything that makes one person more deserving than another?

What's that called, discrimination?


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead]
    #26615989 - 04/20/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Discrimination isn't a bad thing.  People discriminate every day.  There is a difference, of course, between rational discrimination and irrational discrimination.  Discriminating against someone because he/she has stolen from you in the past is rational.  Discriminating against someone because he has darker skin is irrational.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: Enlil]
    #26616001 - 04/20/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Enlil said:
Discrimination isn't a bad thing.  People discriminate every day.  There is a difference, of course, between rational discrimination and irrational discrimination.  Discriminating against someone because he/she has stolen from you in the past is rational.  Discriminating against someone because he has darker skin is irrational.




The only people that don't discriminate are in a vegetative state or dead.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26616058 - 04/20/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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IMO, no one deserves any thing.

What makes one person more deserving than another?

More money?

High IQ?

More children?

Political powers?

Anything that makes one person more deserving than another?

What's that called, discrimination?





The position we take in medicine is very simple: we are nobody's judge, jury, and executioner. We possess a set of knowledge and skills that enable us to use resources to prevent some people from dying. We use as many resources as we have available to use to maximize the number of people we can prevent from dying. Sometimes the number of people who need medical resources in order to not die exceeds the amount of available resources. In that case, triaging doctors become a "life panel": They attempt to allocate resources in such a way as to minimize total mortality by making predictions about which patients are most likely to recover if interventions are implemented.

It's not up to us to decide who deserves things. We simply try to save as many lives as possible. I'm sure a lot of people who come in with kidney failure "deserve" to be saved more than people who come in with no comorbidities, but in a code black situation, resources will be allocated to the latter person because the former has a much worse prognosis. That is the only kind of discrimination that matters in a triaging situation.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26616223 - 04/20/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The Blind Ass said:
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Enlil said:
Discrimination isn't a bad thing.  People discriminate every day.  There is a difference, of course, between rational discrimination and irrational discrimination.  Discriminating against someone because he/she has stolen from you in the past is rational.  Discriminating against someone because he has darker skin is irrational.




The only people that don't discriminate are in a vegetative state or dead.



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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: twighead]
    #26616362 - 04/20/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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