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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead] * 5
    #26613467 - 04/19/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We don't dig mass graves for the fucking flu. We don't have bodies sitting in trucks. We don't have 1300 surge capacity morgues built for it.


You're a terrible troll at best.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead]
    #26613471 - 04/19/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

One down side to flattening the curve, its by slowing down the rate we get herd immunity, expands the time the virus is in society spreading freely, so more time = more time to evolve, into a new strain that now everyone that caught it is no longer immune to at all.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead]
    #26613474 - 04/19/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

There are similarities, yes.  That doesn't mean they're the same thing.  Covid-19 does long term damage to the lungs.  By long term, it can be permanent.  It also damages other organs in the body in a way that flu does not.  It has a mortality rate FAR HIGHER than the flu. 

You can play games all you want with words, but this thing will likely kill more than a million people before this is over.  Yeah, we get it...all of those people would have eventually died anyway.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26613475 - 04/19/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah but it's under evolutionary pressure to evolve into a more contagious, but less lethal form, so mutations could be a good thing? Hopefully?


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26613480 - 04/19/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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We don't dig mass graves for the fucking flu. We don't have bodies sitting in trucks. We don't have 1300 surge capacity morgues built for it.


You're a terrible troll at best.




We also don't immediately put people on ventilators for flu. Which was done with covid and they found out it's not really the best thing to be doing.

Could all these ventilators have caused an influx of unwarranted death???

:teareally:


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead]
    #26613481 - 04/19/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You're woefully misinformed.  Putting people on ventilators is the last resort.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: FrancoAmerican]
    #26613482 - 04/19/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with everything you said but it was my understanding that that when a stable virus like this one mutates, it gets less deadly. So it spreads easier and stays alive longer in its host? I’m not an expert on these things but that was my understanding. Anyways thanks for what you do!


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: Enlil]
    #26613493 - 04/19/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Enlil said:
You're woefully misinformed.  Putting people on ventilators is the last resort.




And yet there are reports of people fully conscious being put into a coma for a ventilator. Like, not being a last resort, but one of the first things being resorted to??? Question Mark, he knows.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26613494 - 04/19/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You're woefully misinformed.  Putting people on ventilators is the last resort.






And the reason why they're saying it might not be best is because we're still trying to figure out how this virus works and what it really does to the body. What looks like ARDs, which has much much higher success rates with ventilators, does not seem to be behaving like ARDs.

It's true that it may be less lethal than we think, but it's still many magnitudes worse than the flu, at best - and we really just have no idea the extent that this attacks the body and the effects that this has on people in the long run.


OP, I invite you to go ahead and add to our knowledge.


not really I don't wish serious illness on just anyone, but seriously, dumb, dumb, dumb.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: undersativaskies] * 2
    #26613495 - 04/19/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Let’s all just let hamhead take his chances. He is allowed to believe what he wants. Obviously very skilled at copying and pasting from the internet... I’m sure he will be fine.


I vote for no more wasted energy on this topic.


Hamhead.... flat earth much?


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead]
    #26613503 - 04/19/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Enlil said:
You're woefully misinformed.  Putting people on ventilators is the last resort.




And yet there are reports of people fully conscious being put into a coma for a ventilator. Like, not being a last resort, but one of the first things being resorted to??? Question Mark, he knows.

:barbershreds:
:teareally:



WHOA, REALLY??  Are you saying that not every doctor on the planet responded to this brand new illness that isn't found in any of the medical books by using the optimum techniques?

Who knew?


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26613506 - 04/19/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If people are gasping for air, why not do a very logical thing and simply give them oxygen instead of watching them continue to gasp for air, scratching heads and then treating ARDS after they wear themselves out.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: FrancoAmerican] * 1
    #26613507 - 04/19/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No it’s the 5G causing it bruh....


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #26613508 - 04/19/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Why treat them at all?  It's all a hoax, remember?


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead]
    #26613511 - 04/19/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You don't think they're trying that before putting people on very invasive, last resort, ventilators??


Anyway.

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I vote for no more wasted energy on this topic.






Goodluck Hamhead. Please at least adhere to social distancing guidelines, because there are a lot of folks out there with pre-existing conditions who are at serious, serious risk of dying or having permanent damage due to this.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #26613513 - 04/19/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It's definitely not a hoax, it is some serious shit. I had it, and even though I'm young and healthy, there were lots of times when I wasn't sure if I was going to make it. I really felt like it might go either way. And that was like, 10, 14 days in I still had flare ups that were so bad that I thought I might end up dead. Imagine 14 days of being so sick that you seriously think you might be heading towards death. And then another 14 days after that where you still feel like absolute shit. Even now, I still don't feel 100%, and it's been over 30 days. Some people take 8 weeks just to recover at all. It's very painful and you can't breathe. It's really bad. Not everyone gets it that bad, but a lot of people do.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26613518 - 04/19/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Hamhead.... flat earth much?




Got one better for ya, I believe you and I, don't even exist!!! So, how can earth be flat if there is no thing to begin with?

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You don't think they're trying that before putting people on very invasive, last resort, ventilators??


Anyway.

Quote:

I vote for no more wasted energy on this topic.






Goodluck Hamhead. Please at least adhere to social distancing guidelines, because there are a lot of folks out there with pre-existing conditions who are at serious, serious risk of dying or having permanent damage due to this.




And are at risk of common colds and other influenza. So :shrug:


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: HamHead]
    #26613522 - 04/19/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No they're fucking not. My father has an autoimmune issue and handles a cold and the flu like a fucking champ. This is not the same.

MOD EDIT: Removed flame.


Edited by Enlil (04/19/20 06:10 PM)


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: undersativaskies]
    #26613523 - 04/19/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hamhead.. what’s your profession. Educational background that makes you such an expert on this subject?

The more you post on this subject the more obvious it is to me that you have zero understanding about any of this.

Oxygen can’t be absorbed by lungs filled with fluid (aka pneumonia).

Read more, post less. You are not helping your cause. Your just coming off as a wiki genius.


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Re: Is Covid 19 really a hoax? [Re: FrancoAmerican] * 2
    #26613525 - 04/19/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lol a wiki genius is a compliment compared to what this guy is coming off as.


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